Hi Peggy, When I'm on Lists which I don't often contribute to, I usally don't take the time (or space) to mention that my main research of ~13 years is on the KIDDER name. * And, I have the KIDDER book on CD. Regarding Margot KIDDER, when I received her note, I probably told about it on the KIDDER List (and Boards). So the information is in the archives there. I don't recall the information at the moment. (My "M.O." is to post all my findings on the Lists and Boards; that way I can refer to the data when I need to and it will hopefully help other people.) I know about a James KIDDER who left the Boston, MA, area in the 1750's and went to Nova Scotia. Probably when Halifax was being founded. Not much is known about his family as he and his wife died young and left several children as orphans ! I didn't know about the William KIDDER of NY who got land in Nova Scotia. I will have to find him in the KIDDER book and see what it says. Actually, Thomas KIDDER of 1700's Chelmsford, MA, died the day that Westford annexed off. He left a widow with 5 young sons. As adults, 3 of the sons went up to New Ipswich, NH, and one of them was my ancestor, Joseph KIDDER. Joseph had 3 sons. The oldest and youngest fought in the Revolutionary War. The middle son hightailed it up to New Brunswick ~1784. He followed other families from NH up there, but was not a Loyalist or Sympathizer himself. Someone suggested he followed his "girlfriend" up there. Almost nothing is known about Calvin KIDDER (1765-1799) from 1784 until his marriage in New Brunswick in 1798. He was killed in a boating accident in Feb. 1799, a week after his only child was born. This is the KIDDER web site. On the site you will see George KIDDER's name mentioned. For about 15+ years he has been trying to update the KIDDER book. http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/1255/1255.htm .. Thank you for writing ... Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) (My KIDDER line goes from: Cambridge and Billerica, MA, to Chelmsford and Westford, MA, to New Ipswich and Temple, NH, to St. Stephen, NB, to Calais and Princeton, ME, and down to Winchester, MA, where my grandmother was born.) Remember to check the archives of all the Lists and Boards for your surnames and place-names. And, please remember to check the on-line auctions for for your surnames and place-names.