The names you refer to are not in the Canada Census for 1881, 1901 or 1911. However in the 1851 Census for Canada West (Ontario)> Leeds County> Elmsley, there is a David Winyal, born USA, age 13 in the home of Richard Ringer, farmer, born England. Doreen ======== _________________________________________________________________ Read what Santa`s been up to! For all the latest, visit asksantaclaus.spaces.live.com! http://asksantaclaus.spaces.live.com/