There is an entry on LDS Family Search with the following info which does not reference any source so would have to be verified: Mary Abbot d/o Bancroft Abbot & Lydia White >Birth: 6 june 1795 - Newbury, Orange Co., VT >Death: 24 Oct 1834, Chicago, Cook Co., IL >Spouse: Amos Bailey / Bayley >Marriage: 10 February 1816 Another entry from this same location gives this info: William Towle (aged 27) married Mary Abbott on 8 December 1824, Champlain, Clinton, NY Just a thought ... Champlain NY is a small community which borders Champlain QC and very close to VT. Mary may have been born in USA but closest church for that family's religion may have been in QC. Cheers! Doreen ========== * > From: wcook@rogers.com > To: ontario@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 03:48:44 -0500 > Subject: [ONTARIO] TOWLE/ABBOTT of Oxford County early to mid 1800s > > I've located the marriage return of William Towle and Mary Cudney of Oxford County it was transcribed wrong. > I've also located in the Drouin Collection the baptisms of John, William and Samuel Towle, 3 of the children of William Towle and Mary Abbott of Oxford County. If anybody would like a copy of these please send me a private email not thru the list. > > P.S. I notice in a lot of trees on Ancestry that quite a few people have Bancroft Abbott and Lydia White as the parents of Mary Abbott, I haven't seen any source material to back this up. On Thomas William Towle's death cert the informant has Mary Abbott as being born in Quebec yet all the census have her born in the U.S. possibly Vermont. > > > > Wayne Cook http://www.waynecook.com (A History Television Approved Site) > Host for the Simcoe County Genweb site at > http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml Ontario, Canada > Host for the Parry Sound Muskoka Genweb site at > http://www.waynecook.com/parrysound.html > 1. Historic Plaques of Ontario 1,588 Plaques online http://www.waynecook.com > 2. The Canadian Query Boards at http://www.waynecook.com/bulletin.html > 3. Tombstone Territory (online gravemarkers in Simcoe County) > http://www.waynecook.com/Tombstone_Territory.html > > ***********

Yes, I posted a message on Jan 4th that I had been "hacked"; I was fearful that persons in my contact list may have also received the virus and wanted to alert all from coast to coast to coast! I have checked the List's archives and nothing was posted until Jan 8 - see: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ONTARIO/2012-01 so you likely haven't missed anything. By the way - all emails have been cleaned and cleared, passwords changed, virus scans reviewed and updated. So am safe territory once again. Cheers! Doreen ============= * > From: derichey539412365@hotmail.com > To: ontario@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 18:28:43 -0700 > Subject: [ONTARIO] Problem with list? > > > A bit ago I got an email with subject line saying this list had a virus. Then I got nothing in my inbox. Has the problem been solved? Is it safe to open emails now? > > Diane > > > ***********

Ann Miller was the daughter of John Miller who came to Canada about 1833 from Ireland. They may have lived in Highland Creek, Ontario, Canada. I am told William Parker was from England somewhere and was a butcher. I am seeking her Miller and mother's ancestry, and other genealogical information. Other descendants? Catt

Thanks! ; ) > Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 20:04:26 -0800 > To: ontario@rootsweb.com > From: sstanger@sfu.ca > Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] Problem with list? With Personal e mail > > > > Hi Diane - There was a message posted by D.O. stating that her e > mail had been hacked and that we should not open mail from her.for 24 hours. > > Searching the Rootsweb Mail List Archive - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ONTARIO/2012-01 > finds only 8 messages posted to the mail list since January 1 2011. > The message from D.O. Your message and another message posted Jan 8 > re the same subject > and he following message . > And > <http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ONTARIO//th/read/ONTARIO/2012-01/1326067955>[ONTARIO] > Ira C. Day, Oxford County, Upper Canada by John Clement (Sun, 08 Jan > 2012 17:12:35 -0700) > > Cheers, Stella > > > > > At 05:28 PM 08/01/2012, you wrote: > > >A bit ago I got an email with subject line saying this list had a > >virus. Then I got nothing in my inbox. Has the problem been > >solved? Is it safe to open emails now? > > > >Diane > > > > > >*********** > >Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: > >http://www.geneabloggers.com/ten-people-genealogists-follow-twitter/ > > > >Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > *********** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: > http://www.geneabloggers.com/ten-people-genealogists-follow-twitter/ > > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've located the marriage return of William Towle and Mary Cudney of Oxford County it was transcribed wrong. I've also located in the Drouin Collection the baptisms of John, William and Samuel Towle, 3 of the children of William Towle and Mary Abbott of Oxford County. If anybody would like a copy of these please send me a private email not thru the list. P.S. I notice in a lot of trees on Ancestry that quite a few people have Bancroft Abbott and Lydia White as the parents of Mary Abbott, I haven't seen any source material to back this up. On Thomas William Towle's death cert the informant has Mary Abbott as being born in Quebec yet all the census have her born in the U.S. possibly Vermont. Wayne Cook http://www.waynecook.com (A History Television Approved Site) Host for the Simcoe County Genweb site at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml Ontario, Canada Host for the Parry Sound Muskoka Genweb site at http://www.waynecook.com/parrysound.html 1. Historic Plaques of Ontario 1,588 Plaques online http://www.waynecook.com 2. The Canadian Query Boards at http://www.waynecook.com/bulletin.html 3. Tombstone Territory (online gravemarkers in Simcoe County) http://www.waynecook.com/Tombstone_Territory.html

I don't know I put one on the list before Christmas and it still hasn't arrived Bill Stratton Nova Scotia ----- Original Message ----- From: "D R" <derichey539412365@hotmail.com> To: "Ontario List" <ontario@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 9:28 PM Subject: [ONTARIO] Problem with list? > > A bit ago I got an email with subject line saying this list had a virus. > Then I got nothing in my inbox. Has the problem been solved? Is it safe > to open emails now? > > Diane > > > *********** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: > http://www.geneabloggers.com/ten-people-genealogists-follow-twitter/ > > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Diane - There was a message posted by D.O. stating that her e mail had been hacked and that we should not open mail from her.for 24 hours. Searching the Rootsweb Mail List Archive - http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ONTARIO/2012-01 finds only 8 messages posted to the mail list since January 1 2011. The message from D.O. Your message and another message posted Jan 8 re the same subject and he following message . And <http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ONTARIO//th/read/ONTARIO/2012-01/1326067955>[ONTARIO] Ira C. Day, Oxford County, Upper Canada by John Clement (Sun, 08 Jan 2012 17:12:35 -0700) Cheers, Stella At 05:28 PM 08/01/2012, you wrote: >A bit ago I got an email with subject line saying this list had a >virus. Then I got nothing in my inbox. Has the problem been >solved? Is it safe to open emails now? > >Diane > > >*********** >Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: >http://www.geneabloggers.com/ten-people-genealogists-follow-twitter/ > >Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A bit ago I got an email with subject line saying this list had a virus. Then I got nothing in my inbox. Has the problem been solved? Is it safe to open emails now? Diane

In 1822 an Ira C. Day held 200 acres of uncultivated land in the Township of Zorra, Oxford County, Canada (The Oxford Gazetteer; containing a complete history of the County of Oxford, by Thomas S. Shenston, printed 1852, page 165 - online at Google Books). On 5 May 1836, Ira C. Day of Oxford County, Upper Canada purchased land in Calhoun County Michigan (www.glorecords.blm.gov). I have a Ira C. Day who was born somewhere in New York, USA about 1799 and was said to have migrated to Canada. He had two sons born in Canada: Isaac born about 1828 and Orin born about 1832. He was enumerated in the 1840 US Census, Lapeer County, Michigan. Later moved to Iowa, USA and then Nebraska, USA. Seeking ancestors and descendants of Ira C. Day, in Canada as well as USA. John Clement, 14221 E Evans Ave Apt 403, Aurora CO 80014 Email: JohnClem@who.net Voice: 303-873-2197 Permanent email: JohnClem@who.net

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Hi SUSAN. Must be the other Hugh as I have the info on the Hugh that you have sent along. Thank you so much. Such a confusing situation.Thank you! Joyce On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Susan Fowler <smfowler1@rogers.com> wrote: > > There were 2 Hugh Mark on the 1881 census this could be the younger one. > > No image available > * Search collection > * About this collection > Name: Hugh Mark > Event: Death > Event Date: 19 Aug 1907 > Event Place: Town Of Hawkesbury Prescott, Ontario > Gender: Male > Age: 72 > Estimated Birth Year: 1835 > Father: > > Mother: > > Spouse: > > Reference Number: p 201 l 25402 > Film Number: 1854463 > Digital Folder Number: 4171346 > Image Number: 384 > > > ________________________________ > From: "joyl@gmail.com" <antrim70@shaw.ca> > To: ontario@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 1:05:10 PM > Subject: [ONTARIO] Hugh Mark - East Hawkesbury, Ontario > > Happy New Year all! > I am hoping that someone can direct me in the search for my great > Grandfather: Hugh Mark b. 1818 (perhaps in Farranacshog, N.I.). Married > Eunice Reid (m. 1855). > Most of the early Mark clan were living, married and died in the East > Hawkesbury, Ontario area. > Hugh Mark was supposedly buried in Barb Cemetery outside of VanKleek Hill, > Ontario. However, it was eventually found that Hugh was not buried in the > allotted cemetery plot. In the 1901 census shows that Hugh's wife Eunice > is living on her own in Maxville, Ontario. She died in 1904 in Maxville. > (I have not found her burial plot). I was sent a clipping from a newspaper > printed in the area that stated that Hugh Mark had been sent to Kingston > Penitentiary - no mention of why. Then I found a tad of information that > he died in 1907 at The Old Jail in L'Orignal. I am not at all familiar > with the area so would be most grateful to solve this mystery. > Thank you for help and suggestions. > Joyce > > *********** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: > http://www.geneabloggers.com/ten-people-genealogists-follow-twitter/ > > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *********** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: > http://www.geneabloggers.com/ten-people-genealogists-follow-twitter/ > > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Susan, Sorry to say this, but we have the 1881 census for the MILKINS family, and this isn't them unfortunately. They were living in Bedminster, rather than Frome, and, if I remember correctly, the surname had been mistranscribed as Milruis on Ancestry. Thanks ever so much for all your hard work though, and to everyone else who has spent time on these requests, this is one amazing list! Thank you all so much! Jon

Susan this is absolutely amazing! Thank you so much for your time and hard work, absolutely brilliant! Neil is going to be so astounded when he sees this marriage record! Thank you so much once again, kindest regards, Jon

1910 the father was murdered? The father of the baby of a daughter of the man (Street Car Conductor) who was murdered in USA? Gets confusing! Sorry, it was not the Henry Sovereign Case: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/ONTARIO/2006-05/1148127458 Catt > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 13:45:52 -0500 > From: stoppa1@nrt > co.net > Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] ONTARIO Digest, Vol 6, Issue 235 > To: ontario@ > rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: 4efb63e0.1b91.41c1d940.4b7a53dc@nrtco.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > Hi Dan: > I certainly could have and I chopped wood with an axe when I was 12. > > Clare > ------------------------------ > Message: 3 > > Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 10:54:51 -0800 (PST) > > From: dvw onbudd > y_2000@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] ONTARIO Digest, Vol 6, Issue 235 > To: ontario@ > rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > 1325098491.46668.YahooMailClassic@web1614 > 04.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > Hi Clare, > The oldest daughter never seemed to have good relationships when she was > older married 5 times and none of the marriages took.? I don't know if her > father could possibly have triggered her murdering him and her later > behavior I don't know. Dan > *********** > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 11:02:57 -0800 > On Dec 28, 2011, at 10:14 AM, dvw wrote: 3 sisters went to Lincoln, Nebraska.? The first I think > was married here? but have never been able to find her marriage the > other 2 were married in Lincoln.? The third sister who I'm talking > of was born in 1866, married in 1898 to a man who was born in 1875.? > Nine years younger than her.? They moved to Detroit and she had 5 > children the baby dying sometime in 1910 same year as the father was > murdered.? The husband was a streetcar conductor and from family > accounts would always come home and talk about the women he had seen.? > The mother came home to Ontario to visit her family and they > wanted her to stay here and not go back.? She did go back and then > the tragedy occurred.? She was charged with murder, but never > convicted.? Instead she went to the Iona state insane asylum she never > thought he was dead. The newspaper article said the tracks in the snow to > the shed to get the ax were too small to be a full grown woman as the > mother.? None of the evidence added up.? The tracks were the size of the > oldest daughters who was 12 at the time.? The sisters in > Lincoln took the girls and the husbands family took the boys.

What age were the boys? If 10 and 11 lb. boys can lift and move heavy bags of flour and bales of hay, and a 10 girl can heave bales of hay too, then an axe is no problem with rage and adrenaline surging through one's veins. A male some what smaller could have put on an older sister's boots and done the murder. Let's suppose that the wandering eye street car conductor was mistreating the daughter or the others including the mother, and if she was the oldest she took it into her hands to kill the oppressor or pedophile or rapist or philanderer. The mother lost her mind at seeing the murdered husband, so they locked her up. Sounds like the Henry Sovereign Murder Case! Catt > 7. Re: Writing a novel based on a murder in the family (Pat Roloff) > > 8. Re: Writing a novel based on a murder in the family (dvw) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 09:29:24 -0800 (PST) > From: dvw onbuddy_2000@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] Writing a novel based on a murder in the family > To: ontario@rootsweb.com > The whole situation was bizarre, there were 2 boys and 2 girls and when > their mother was sent to an asylum the girls went to Nebraska and the boys > to Ontario and they were never allowed to meet. > > Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 08:17:46 -0800 > > From: onbuddy_2000@yahoo.com > > To: ontario@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [ONTARIO] Writing a novel based on a murder in the family I have a murder in the family but we do not know who > committed it.? However I am interested in knowing if its possible a 12 year > old girl could pick up and ax and wield it.? I think its possible but want > other opinions. Dan Walker > Message: 6 > > Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 09:55:03 -0800 > > From: Stella Stanger sstanger@sfu.ca > Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] Writing a novel based on a murder in the family Hi, I would imagine a 12 year old girl could wield an ax. Perhaps depending on the size of the ax - but a 12 year old is almost adult - and depending on her size - strength - and anger at the time. anything is possible. That is a time of the beginning of raging hormones . also depends on the situation - was she ill treated ? or shielding herself and others from danger ? Who was the person injured ? Why was the mother sent to an asylum - because of shock of the situation ? Who sent the children , boys to Ontario - girls to Nebraska - ? and never allowed to meet ? Perhaps so that they could not compare situation ? Now I won't sleep till I know the answer Cheers, Stella > At 09:29 AM 28/12/2011, you wrote: > > >The whole situation was bizarre, there were 2 boys and 2 > girls and > >when their mother was sent to an asylum the girls went > to Nebraska and the boys to Ontario and they were never allowed to meet. On Wed, 12/28/11, D O' devaney2004@hotmail.com> wrote: Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 08:17:46 -0800 From: onbuddy_2000@yahoo.com To: ontario@rootsweb.com Subject: [ONTARIO] Writing a novel based on a murder in the family. I have a murder in the family but we do not know who committed it. However I am interested in knowing if its possible a 12 year old girl could pick up and ax and wield it. I think its possible but want other opinions. Dan Walker > Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 10:14:45 -0800 (PST) > From: dvw onbuddy_2000@yahoo.com > 3 sisters went to Lincoln, Nebraska.? The first I think was married here > but have never been able to find her marriage the other 2 were married in > Lincoln.? The third sister who I'm talking of was born in 1866, married in > 1898 to a man who was born in 1875? Nine years younger than her? They > moved to Detroit and she had 5 children the baby dying sometime in 1910 > same year as the father was murdered.? The husband was a streetcar > conductor and from family accounts would always come home and talk about > the women he had seen.? The mother came home to Ontario her to visit her > family and they wanted her to stay here and not go back.? She did go back > and then the tragedy occurred.? She was charged with murder, but never > convicted.? Instead she went to the Iona state insane asylum she never > thought he was dead. > > The newspaper article said the tracks in the snow to the shed to get the ax > were too small to be a full grown woman as the mother.? None of the > evidence added up.? The tracks were the size of the oldest daughters who > was 12 at the time.? The sisters in Lincoln, Nebraska took the girls and the husbands > family took the boys to Ontario. > >--- On Wed, 12/28/11, D O' devaney2004@hotmail.com> wrote: Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 08:17:46 -0800 From: onbuddy_2000@yahoo.com To: ontario@rootsweb.com Subject: [ONTARIO] Writing a novel based on a murder in the family I have a murder in the family but we do not know who committed it.? However I am interested in knowing if its possible a 12 year old girl could pick up and ax and wield it.? I think its possible but want other opinions. Dan Walker

What age were the boys? If 10 and 11 lb. boys can lift and move heavy bags of flour and bales of hay, and a 10 girl can heave bales of hay too, then an axe is no problem with rage and adrenaline surging through one's veins. A male some what smaller could have put on an older sister's boots and done the murder. Let's suppose that the wandering eye street car conductor was mistreating the daughter or the others including the mother, and if she was the oldest she took it into her hands to kill the oppressor or pedophile or rapist or philanderer. The mother lost her mind at seeing the murdered husband, so they locked her up. Sounds like the Henry Sovereign Murder Case! Catt > 7. Re: Writing a novel based on a murder in the family (Pat Roloff) > > 8. Re: Writing a novel based on a murder in the family (dvw) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 09:29:24 -0800 (PST) > From: dvw onbuddy_2000@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] Writing a novel based on a murder in the family > To: ontario@rootsweb.com > The whole situation was bizarre, there were 2 boys and 2 girls and when > their mother was sent to an asylum the girls went to Nebraska and the boys > to Ontario and they were never allowed to meet. > > Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 08:17:46 -0800 > > From: onbuddy_2000@yahoo.com > > To: ontario@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [ONTARIO] Writing a novel based on a murder in the family I have a murder in the family but we do not know who > committed it.? However I am interested in knowing if its possible a 12 year > old girl could pick up and ax and wield it.? I think its possible but want > other opinions. Dan Walker > Message: 6 > > Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 09:55:03 -0800 > > From: Stella Stanger sstanger@sfu.ca > Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] Writing a novel based on a murder in the family Hi, I would imagine a 12 year old girl could wield an ax. Perhaps depending on the size of the ax - but a 12 year old is almost adult - and depending on her size - strength - and anger at the time. anything is possible. That is a time of the beginning of raging hormones . also depends on the situation - was she ill treated ? or shielding herself and others from danger ? Who was the person injured ? Why was the mother sent to an asylum - because of shock of the situation ? Who sent the children , boys to Ontario - girls to Nebraska - ? and never allowed to meet ? Perhaps so that they could not compare situation ? Now I won't sleep till I know the answer Cheers, Stella > At 09:29 AM 28/12/2011, you wrote: > > >The whole situation was bizarre, there were 2 boys and 2 > girls and > >when their mother was sent to an asylum the girls went > to Nebraska and the boys to Ontario and they were never allowed to meet. On Wed, 12/28/11, D O' devaney2004@hotmail.com> wrote: Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 08:17:46 -0800 From: onbuddy_2000@yahoo.com To: ontario@rootsweb.com Subject: [ONTARIO] Writing a novel based on a murder in the family. I have a murder in the family but we do not know who committed it. However I am interested in knowing if its possible a 12 year old girl could pick up and ax and wield it. I think its possible but want other opinions. Dan Walker > Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 10:14:45 -0800 (PST) > From: dvw onbuddy_2000@yahoo.com > 3 sisters went to Lincoln, Nebraska.? The first I think was married here > but have never been able to find her marriage the other 2 were married in > Lincoln.? The third sister who I'm talking of was born in 1866, married in > 1898 to a man who was born in 1875? Nine years younger than her? They > moved to Detroit and she had 5 children the baby dying sometime in 1910 > same year as the father was murdered.? The husband was a streetcar > conductor and from family accounts would always come home and talk about > the women he had seen.? The mother came home to Ontario her to visit her > family and they wanted her to stay here and not go back.? She did go back > and then the tragedy occurred.? She was charged with murder, but never > convicted.? Instead she went to the Iona state insane asylum she never > thought he was dead. > > The newspaper article said the tracks in the snow to the shed to get the ax > were too small to be a full grown woman as the mother.? None of the > evidence added up.? The tracks were the size of the oldest daughters who > was 12 at the time.? The sisters in Lincoln, Nebraska took the girls and the husbands > family took the boys to Ontario. > >--- On Wed, 12/28/11, D O' devaney2004@hotmail.com> wrote: Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 08:17:46 -0800 From: onbuddy_2000@yahoo.com To: ontario@rootsweb.com Subject: [ONTARIO] Writing a novel based on a murder in the family I have a murder in the family but we do not know who committed it.? However I am interested in knowing if its possible a 12 year old girl could pick up and ax and wield it.? I think its possible but want other opinions. Dan Walker

Happy New Year all! I am hoping that someone can direct me in the search for my great Grandfather: Hugh Mark b. 1818 (perhaps in Farranacshog, N.I.). Married Eunice Reid (m. 1855). Most of the early Mark clan were living, married and died in the East Hawkesbury, Ontario area. Hugh Mark was supposedly buried in Barb Cemetery outside of VanKleek Hill, Ontario. However, it was eventually found that Hugh was not buried in the allotted cemetery plot. In the 1901 census shows that Hugh's wife Eunice is living on her own in Maxville, Ontario. She died in 1904 in Maxville. (I have not found her burial plot). I was sent a clipping from a newspaper printed in the area that stated that Hugh Mark had been sent to Kingston Penitentiary - no mention of why. Then I found a tad of information that he died in 1907 at The Old Jail in L'Orignal. I am not at all familiar with the area so would be most grateful to solve this mystery. Thank you for help and suggestions. Joyce

There were 2 Hugh Mark on the 1881 census this could be the younger one. No image available * Search collection * About this collection Name: Hugh Mark Event: Death Event Date: 19 Aug 1907 Event Place: Town Of Hawkesbury Prescott, Ontario Gender: Male Age: 72 Estimated Birth Year: 1835 Father: Mother: Spouse: Reference Number: p 201 l 25402 Film Number: 1854463 Digital Folder Number: 4171346 Image Number: 384 ________________________________ From: "joyl@gmail.com" <antrim70@shaw.ca> To: ontario@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 1:05:10 PM Subject: [ONTARIO] Hugh Mark - East Hawkesbury, Ontario Happy New Year all! I am hoping that someone can direct me in the search for my great Grandfather:  Hugh Mark  b.  1818 (perhaps in Farranacshog, N.I.).  Married Eunice Reid (m. 1855). Most of the early Mark clan were living, married and died in the East Hawkesbury, Ontario area. Hugh Mark was supposedly buried in Barb Cemetery outside of VanKleek Hill, Ontario.  However, it was eventually found that Hugh was not buried in the allotted cemetery plot.  In the 1901 census shows that Hugh's wife Eunice is living on her own in Maxville, Ontario.  She died in 1904 in Maxville. (I have not found her burial plot).  I was sent a clipping from a newspaper printed in the area that stated that Hugh Mark had been sent to Kingston Penitentiary - no mention of why.  Then I found a tad of information that he died in 1907 at The Old Jail in L'Orignal.  I am not at all familiar with the area so would be most grateful to solve this mystery. Thank you for help and suggestions. Joyce *********** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://www.geneabloggers.com/ten-people-genealogists-follow-twitter/ Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message