Name Father Mother Married Married place Spouse Spouse's father Spouse's mother ************************************************ Romeo SABOURIN Joseph SABOURIN Rose HUGUES Jun 14 1944 St-Paul, Plantagenet, Prescott, Ontario Jeannette FREDETTE Hector FREDETTE Sara BOURBONNAIS Germain CHRETIEN Roland CHRETIEN Rita CADIEUX Jun 14 1969 St-Victor, Alfred, Prescott, Ontario Jocelyne CARRIERE Edmond CARRIERE Therese PRESEAULT ************************************************** NOTE: I'm only listing what I added or modified to my database in 2006 & 2007. Please refer to the List Archives for other marriages that were posted in previous years for this date The above listed marriages were mainly found in the Drouin Books and Microfilms. These rarely list the nationality or ethnic origin of the couple. Some MAY or MAY NOT be Métis or Native.

Name Father Mother Married Married place Spouse Spouse's father Spouse's mother ************************************************ Leo Paul BODSON-DODSON Arthur BODSON Florida LALONDE Jun 14 1948 N-D-de-Lourdes, Timmins, Cochrane, ON Lucienne CARRIERE Jean Amedee CARRIERE Malvina GAGNE Louis Raymond SABOURIN Justinien SABOURIN Marie RAYMOND Jun 14 1948 Ste-Anne, Iroquois Falls, Cochrane, ON Marguerite FOURNIER Joseph FOURNIER Rose GAUDREAU Rene LABELLE Stanislas LABELLE Alice BEAUCHAMP Jun 14 1969 St-Sauveur, Timmins, Cochrane Dist., ON Rollande CARRIER Roland CARRIER Claire AUDET ************************************************** NOTE: I'm only listing what I added or modified to my database in 2006 & 2007. Please refer to the List Archives for other marriages that were posted in previous years for this date The above listed marriages were mainly found in the Drouin Books and Microfilms. These rarely list the nationality or ethnic origin of the couple. Some MAY or MAY NOT be Métis or Native.

Name Father Mother Married Married place Spouse Spouse's father Spouse's mother ************************************************ Rene MAYER Leo MAYER Blanche LEDUC Jun 14 1969 Canadian Martyrs, Cornwall, Stormont, ON Aline SABOURIN Wilfrid SABOURIN Lilas RICHER Gordon GALLAGHER John GALLAGHER Ernestine MULLENS Jun 14 1943 Sacre-Coeur, Ottawa, Ontario Fleurette SABOURIN Remi SABOURIN Rose Anna BRUNET Henri SABOURIN Andre SABOURIN Julia PHILLIPS Jun 14 1944 Glengarry-Dundas Co., Ontario Clarisse BEAUCHAMP Oscar BEAUCHAMP Eugenie HAMELIN William SABOURIN Joseph SABOURIN Louise Marie DEGUIRE Jun 14 1920 Glengarry-Dundas Co., Ontario Therese Marie DANIS Alexandre DANIS Clementine BOUGIE Romeo CARRIERE Arsene CARRIERE Belle Marie CARDINAL Jun 14 1947 St-Francois-de-Sales, Cornwall, ON Florence BOYER William BOYER Gertrude DIONNE ************************************************** NOTE: I'm only listing what I added or modified to my database in 2006 & 2007. Please refer to the List Archives for other marriages that were posted in previous years for this date The above listed marriages were mainly found in the Drouin Books and Microfilms. These rarely list the nationality or ethnic origin of the couple. Some MAY or MAY NOT be Métis or Native.

Name Father Mother Married Married place Spouse Spouse's father Spouse's mother ************************************************ Philippe CUILLERIER Georges CUILLERIER Elisabeth NADON Jun 14 1939 Ste-Famille, Blind River, Algoma, ON Minerva MAE Isaac MAE Edith MEEKS ************************************************** NOTE: I'm only listing what I added or modified to my database in 2006 & 2007. Please refer to the List Archives for other marriages that were posted in previous years for this date The above listed marriages were mainly found in the Drouin Books and Microfilms. These rarely list the nationality or ethnic origin of the couple. Some MAY or MAY NOT be Métis or Native.

Just did a quick search, but you're right, they're pretty bad... Nancy In a message dated 6/14/2007 5:16:14 AM Central Daylight Time, stuart@tase.co.uk writes: I've been looking at passenger lists on the collectionscanada website for the last week, but I've quickly noticed that few of the images are actually legible. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Hi all, I've been looking at passenger lists on the collectionscanada website for the last week, but I've quickly noticed that few of the images are actually legible. Does anyone know if I've missed something? What would be the purpose of digitising these lists if the resulting images are such low quality and resolution that they can't be easily read? Are higher quality images available online somewhere else? http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/passenger/index-e.html In particular I was looking at the image listing George Beaton, who sailed on the Dominion in March 1912 (Page 13 or Image 14). I can make out his name, but not his age, or some other details and notations on the page. -- Stuart Morgan

Ellen, All the above names from the Janetville area are recorded in my family tree. If you or other listers see anything of interest in the searchable surname database on my Genealogy Webpages, I am always happy to share information and meet more cousins online. Dave Ingram Vancouver, Island MY GENEALOGY WEBPAGES: .....UPDATED 1O JUNE 2007 http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=713 http://www.gencircles.com/users/daveingram *No vital statistics are shown for individuals who could be still living for protection of privacy. Replying to:____________________________________________ > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 22:01:23 -0400 > From: "Ellen Murray" <ellen.murray@sympatico.ca > Subject: [ONTARIO] Johnston, Sheckleton & Heaslip Families - Manvers > Twp > To: <ontario@rootsweb.com> > Is anyone researching the above names from the Janetville area? > Ellen

On 14 Jun 2007 at 11:12, Stuart Morgan wrote: > Hi all, > > I've been looking at passenger lists on the collectionscanada website for the > last week, but I've quickly noticed that few of the images are actually > legible. Does anyone know if I've missed something? What would be the purpose > of digitising these lists if the resulting images are such low quality and > resolution that they can't be easily read? Are higher quality images > available online somewhere else? > > http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/passenger/index-e.html > Stuart I think you will find the poor quality is not a function of the scanning but of the original manifest or microfilming. You can always try outward bound which has the outward lists from England. I must caution you though that the manifests may NOT be identical. There is a different arrangement of names as well as different information given on the outbound lists versus the arrival lists on LAC I cannot say if this is true of all lists, but it is true of the ones I have found for my own familiy. For example my as yet unmarried grandparents arriving from England in 1913 are listed alphabetically on the LAC lists (which didn't help me determine if they travelled together or separately) but by cabin number on the Outward lists. Their family details were different on each list, and more detail was given on one. My grandfather's occupation was different on each list and on one list it gave more information as to where he was headed. See http://shipslists-online.rootschat.net/ for more -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ * Images of Ships Lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ otg@csolve.net or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com

Is anyone researching the above names from the Janetville area? Ellen

Canada East - aka Lower Canada - Excerpt from www.britannica.com "also called Lower Canada, in Canadian history, the region in Canada now known as Quebec. From 1791 to 1841 the region was known as Lower Canada and from 1841 to 1867 as Canada East, though the two names continued to be used interchangeably." Doreen >From: "Bonnie Cole" <bonnieview@sympatico.ca> >Reply-To: ontario@rootsweb.com >To: "ONTARIO LIST" <ONTARIO@rootsweb.com> >Subject: [ONTARIO] Canada East >Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 14:12:00 -0400 > >Hello: > >Is Canada East actually Quebec? > >Thanks, >Bonnie > >*********** _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail with drag and drop, you can easily move and organize your mail in one simple step. Get it today! www.newhotmail.ca?icid=WLHMENCA153

Hello Elaine: I think you need to determine how long they had been living in Detroit and their religion as there are several possibilities as to why they chose to be married in Windsor. 1) Perhaps both had originally, or maybe just one of them, been living in Windsor with family there so preferred to have the marriage where most of the family lived; 2) A favourite clergyman or family member clergyman was to marry them; 3) Or they may have not met residency requirements as such a thing might have been necessary to obtain a marriage licence; 4) Possibly the nearest church of their religion was across the river in Windsor. Look at the 1900 Census of Detroit and the 1901 Census of Windsor to see where they had lived prior to the marriage. If you have seen the document on Ancestry, then you can print that out for yourself. Doreen ======== >From: "Elaine O'Neill" <elaineoneill1948@gmail.com> >Reply-To: ontario@rootsweb.com >To: ONTARIO@rootsweb.com >Subject: [ONTARIO] Windsor Marriage Record >Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:52:15 -0500 > >I found my grandparents marriage registration on Ancestry.com. They >lived in Detroit, but for some reason married in Windsor in 1907. I >have questions about some of the information given on the >registration. I would like to know if it's possible to order a copy of >the actual marriage license from either the Ontario Archives or the >main archives in Ottawa. I want to determine if they married in a >church or by a judge, and if it was in church, which one. Can someone >please point me in the right direction? Thank You! > > >Elaine O'. in Missouri > >*********** _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail. Now with better security, storage and features. www.newhotmail.ca?icid=WLHMENCA149

There is also the possibility that the clergyman found the witnesses for the bride & groom. For my great-grandparents' marriage, the witnesses for a couple of weddings on the civil registration page were the same - and they had the same last name as the minister - so I assumed that they were his wife and daughter or two daughters. I also couldn't figure out where they were married because no church was mentioned, but I stumbled across the ministers name somewhere and found the name of his church (and then found out that the civil registration was a mis-transcription of the church record and my great grandmother's maiden name wasn't what we thought it was). So if you can, it is always good to check the church register too. Robin -----Original Message----- From: ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary Crandall Sent: June 13, 2007 5:04 PM To: ontario@rootsweb.com Subject: [ONTARIO] Windsor marriages If the witnesses on the marriage reg were not related, and especially if the witnesses were involved in a lot of other marriages, then there was probably not a family reason for marrying in Windsor. Check the other Windsor marriages on adjacent pages to see if the witnesses were "unique" to your marriage. For example, surnames Tolmie, Oliver, Manning appear over & over & over again as witnesses. Perhaps the witnesses were friends who also got married in Windsor at the same time? \

On 13 Jun 2007 at 14:12, Bonnie Cole wrote: > Hello: > > Is Canada East actually Quebec? > Bonnie I see you have already had answers but here is a URL for you that you might want to look at. It gives the various name and boundary changes for Quebec/Ontario http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/hist.shtml Lorine -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ * Images of Ships Lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ otg@csolve.net or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com

Hi Debbie, I checked the cemetery index for Chinguacousy township and the name CURLEY doesn't appear in any cemetery recordings for that area. I also looked through the index to the newspapers in the area but again, no mention of the name. I would suggest you check in either Bruce county or Michigan for their deaths and burials. Jane in Cooksville (Mississauga) Ontario, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: Debbie Bert <debbiebert@ameritech.net> To: Ontario List <ONTARIO@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 2:47 PM Subject: [ONTARIO] Curley, Hugh, Bridget, Thomas and Susanna,Ireland > CAnada>Michigan > Still looking for my Curleys. > > I have Huge/Hue/Hugh Curley b. about 1794 in Taum, Galway, Ireland. > His wife was Bridget b. about 1802 also in the Taum area. > Their son Thomas H. Curley was born in 1827 in Ireland. I am not sure when > they came > to Canada but I suspect it was by 1832. I can't be sure about this. > Thomas married in Canada Susanna Everson in about 1849. > The 1851 Chinquacousy Census, Peel Co., Ontario shows Thomas and Susanna > have Thomas's parents, Huge and Bridget living with them. I have been trying > for years to find out what ever happened to Thomas's parents Hugh and > Bridget Curley. I am looking for their place of death, burial, anything. > Thomas and his father Hugh were both stone masons (bricklayers). > Eventualy Thomas moved down to Michigan to do some brick work and liked it > so much that > He and his wife moved down to Michigan. Thomas died in 1877. > Will gladly share any info with others in this line. > Thanks, > debbie > > Additional notes from my Genealogy program: > Thomas H. /Curley/ > > Thomas Curley was born in Ireland and came to Canada and > married there. Thomas and wife Susanna moved to Michigan > about 1853 or 1854. > > Records show that Thomas and Susanna were living in Chinquacousy Township, > Ontario, Canada in 1851. Later records show that > Thomas and Susanna were living in Paisly, Bruce Co., Ontario in 1865 when > they signed papers to quit-claim Susanna interest in the estate of her > father. (info from Carl Everson) > > The 1851 Chinquacousy Census, District 4 page 199 shows that > Thomas and Susanna also have Thomas's parents in the house, > Bridget and Hugh. There is also a boy named Francis Matdam (or Madden) > born in Ireland that is only 10 years old living with them. I have no idea > who this boy is. It also shows that Thomas and his father are both masons, > and that they all live in a frame house that is 1 1/2 stories. > > Thomas came over to Mi. with Robert Fitch. He was a mason and helped build > the Catholic Church in Emmett, MI. After living in the > Emmett area to work on the church , he decided to move to Emmett and built > a house 4 1/8 miles east of > Marlette. > > Thomas is buried in McLeish Cemetery in Marlette, MI. (Section 21), Decker > Rd. South of walker Rd and the cemetery is owned > > > > *********** > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Yes, Manning is one of the witnesses. The other is a Susan Johnson from Detroit. I don't recognize the name but it may have been a friend of my grandmother's. Their ages are accurate on the registration, well, almost. He was 3 months shy of 21 but states he's 21 on the registration. She was 20 and it states that to be the case. I suspect her family may have been against the marriage and they "ran away" to Windsor to get married. I was simply hoping for some kind of companion document to compare the information to. Sometime's clerks get busy and write the wrong name in the right column, I just wanted to be sure. Thanks for the suggestions, Mary. Elaine On 6/13/07, Mary Crandall <MICrandall@rogers.com> wrote: > Windsor was a very popular place for Americans to get married - especially > those from Michigan, and to a lesser extent Ohio. > > > > I have seen marriages in Windsor of American residents who lied about their > age (i.e. were minors at the time but claimed to be 21) > > > > If the witnesses on the marriage reg were not related, and especially if the > witnesses were involved in a lot of other marriages, then there was probably > not a family reason for marrying in Windsor. Check the other Windsor > marriages on adjacent pages to see if the witnesses were "unique" to your > marriage. For example, surnames Tolmie, Oliver, Manning appear over & over > & over again as witnesses. > > > > Perhaps the witnesses were friends who also got married in Windsor at the > same time? > > > > Mary

Windsor was a very popular place for Americans to get married - especially those from Michigan, and to a lesser extent Ohio. I have seen marriages in Windsor of American residents who lied about their age (i.e. were minors at the time but claimed to be 21) If the witnesses on the marriage reg were not related, and especially if the witnesses were involved in a lot of other marriages, then there was probably not a family reason for marrying in Windsor. Check the other Windsor marriages on adjacent pages to see if the witnesses were "unique" to your marriage. For example, surnames Tolmie, Oliver, Manning appear over & over & over again as witnesses. Perhaps the witnesses were friends who also got married in Windsor at the same time? Mary

Civil birth registration did not start until July 1869 in Ontario so you would have to look for a record of baptism. That should be okay for Quebec because I think they only started civil birth registration in 1994. Robin -----Original Message----- From: ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Hamilton Sent: June 13, 2007 11:39 AM To: ontario@rootsweb.com Subject: [ONTARIO] birth registration request Hello, I am looking for some kind soul to do me a huge favour. I am wanting the birth registration for Emelie Bruneau, b January 12, 1845 Ontario. I have made several attempts to acquire birth, marriage and death registrations for her. I have only been successful with the marriage so far. On my second attempt at her death I was denied without proof of her birth. Emelie was born in Ontario but her marriage and death took place in Quebec. Quebec is quite strict about releasing information (this is not a criticism but a statement) which is why this has been so difficult.

Was your family Roman Catholic? Dan Walker > Still looking for my Curleys. > > I have Huge/Hue/Hugh Curley b. about 1794 in Taum, Galway, Ireland. > His wife was Bridget b. about 1802 also in the Taum area. > Their son Thomas H. Curley was born in 1827 in Ireland. I am not sure when > they came > to Canada but I suspect it was by 1832. I can't be sure about this. > Thomas married in Canada Susanna Everson in about 1849. > The 1851 Chinquacousy Census, Peel Co., Ontario shows Thomas and Susanna > have Thomas's parents, Huge and Bridget living with them. I have been > trying > for years to find out what ever happened to Thomas's parents Hugh and > Bridget Curley. I am looking for their place of death, burial, anything. > Thomas and his father Hugh were both stone masons (bricklayers). > Eventualy Thomas moved down to Michigan to do some brick work and liked it > so much that > He and his wife moved down to Michigan. Thomas died in 1877. > Will gladly share any info with others in this line. > Thanks, > debbie > > Additional notes from my Genealogy program: > Thomas H. /Curley/ > > Thomas Curley was born in Ireland and came to Canada and > married there. Thomas and wife Susanna moved to Michigan > about 1853 or 1854. > > Records show that Thomas and Susanna were living in Chinquacousy Township, > Ontario, Canada in 1851. Later records show that > Thomas and Susanna were living in Paisly, Bruce Co., Ontario in 1865 when > they signed papers to quit-claim Susanna interest in the estate of her > father. (info from Carl Everson) > > The 1851 Chinquacousy Census, District 4 page 199 shows that > Thomas and Susanna also have Thomas's parents in the house, > Bridget and Hugh. There is also a boy named Francis Matdam (or Madden) > born in Ireland that is only 10 years old living with them. I have no > idea > who this boy is. It also shows that Thomas and his father are both > masons, > and that they all live in a frame house that is 1 1/2 stories. > > Thomas came over to Mi. with Robert Fitch. He was a mason and helped build > the Catholic Church in Emmett, MI. After living in the > Emmett area to work on the church , he decided to move to Emmett and > built > a house 4 1/8 miles east of > Marlette. > > Thomas is buried in McLeish Cemetery in Marlette, MI. (Section 21), Decker > Rd. South of walker Rd and the cemetery is owned > > > > *********** > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ---------------------------- Powered by Execulink Webmail http://www.execulink.com/

Yes - from 1841 to 1867 - but it didn't extend as far north as it does now. http://atlas.nrcan.gc.ca/site/english/maps/historical/territorialevolution/t erritorial_animation.gif/image_view Robin -----Original Message----- From: ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bonnie Cole Sent: June 13, 2007 2:12 PM To: ONTARIO LIST Subject: [ONTARIO] Canada East Hello: Is Canada East actually Quebec?

Still looking for my Curleys. I have Huge/Hue/Hugh Curley b. about 1794 in Taum, Galway, Ireland. His wife was Bridget b. about 1802 also in the Taum area. Their son Thomas H. Curley was born in 1827 in Ireland. I am not sure when they came to Canada but I suspect it was by 1832. I can't be sure about this. Thomas married in Canada Susanna Everson in about 1849. The 1851 Chinquacousy Census, Peel Co., Ontario shows Thomas and Susanna have Thomas's parents, Huge and Bridget living with them. I have been trying for years to find out what ever happened to Thomas's parents Hugh and Bridget Curley. I am looking for their place of death, burial, anything. Thomas and his father Hugh were both stone masons (bricklayers). Eventualy Thomas moved down to Michigan to do some brick work and liked it so much that He and his wife moved down to Michigan. Thomas died in 1877. Will gladly share any info with others in this line. Thanks, debbie Additional notes from my Genealogy program: Thomas H. /Curley/ Thomas Curley was born in Ireland and came to Canada and married there. Thomas and wife Susanna moved to Michigan about 1853 or 1854. Records show that Thomas and Susanna were living in Chinquacousy Township, Ontario, Canada in 1851. Later records show that Thomas and Susanna were living in Paisly, Bruce Co., Ontario in 1865 when they signed papers to quit-claim Susanna interest in the estate of her father. (info from Carl Everson) The 1851 Chinquacousy Census, District 4 page 199 shows that Thomas and Susanna also have Thomas's parents in the house, Bridget and Hugh. There is also a boy named Francis Matdam (or Madden) born in Ireland that is only 10 years old living with them. I have no idea who this boy is. It also shows that Thomas and his father are both masons, and that they all live in a frame house that is 1 1/2 stories. Thomas came over to Mi. with Robert Fitch. He was a mason and helped build the Catholic Church in Emmett, MI. After living in the Emmett area to work on the church , he decided to move to Emmett and built a house 4 1/8 miles east of Marlette. Thomas is buried in McLeish Cemetery in Marlette, MI. (Section 21), Decker Rd. South of walker Rd and the cemetery is owned