Hi there, I was hoping that someone might be able to offer some advice. I'd like to get the marriage certificate for my Great Uncle. I have the marriage date, his full name, the city (Toronto) where it took place, but only have the first name of his bride. Is there anyway to get the certificate without her surname? Jackie M. Toronto

Hi Pat, Here's one URL that might help you. http://www.vac-acc.gc.ca/remembers/ And here's another one, http://www.vac-acc.gc.ca/remembers/sub.cfm?source=collections/virtualmem&CFID=1656938&CFTOKEN=31800884 Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Gunson" <jones@encode.com> To: <ONTARIO@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 7:36 PM Subject: [ONTARIO] WW 1 Soldiers search > Hello List > > It's been awhile since I've been on the site where you could search for > Soldiers in WW1 > The address I had was http://www.archives.ca/02/02010602_e.html > but it seems that it has changed and I can't seem to find it. > Does someone have the new url? > > Thanks > Pat > > *********** > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

"Sassette" Thank you very much for such a quick reply. I appreciate it. Cheers Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sassette" <lisahaas2001@yahoo.ca> To: <ontario@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] WW 1 Soldiers search > You were on the right track Pat....but you just needed > to go a little further. > Try this: > > http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/cef/index-e.html > > > Hope this helps! > Lisa > > > > Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca > > > *********** > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > > --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

You were on the right track Pat....but you just needed to go a little further. Try this: http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/cef/index-e.html Hope this helps! Lisa Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca

Hello List It's been awhile since I've been on the site where you could search for Soldiers in WW1 The address I had was http://www.archives.ca/02/02010602_e.html but it seems that it has changed and I can't seem to find it. Does someone have the new url? Thanks Pat

On 29 Jul 2007 at 22:14, PALarge@aol.com wrote: > I have found a marriage in > Glasgow, Scotland of my ggggrandparents how ended up in > Hamilton Ontario. I have no idea how to get a copy of a > marriage from there. I see that SKS has given you the answer re obtaining a record of marriage in Scotland. In future please everyone confine your questions to the appropriate list. If you have a question about Scottish vital stats, check for a Scottish list on Rootsweb.com and then join it to post your query A terrific site to bookmark for help with UK questions is http://rootschat.com/ This is a forum chock full of experts in UK genealogy who are always willing to lend a hand, do lookups and provide guidance. Ontario list is for Ontario help and discussion only Lorine -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ * Images of Ships Lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ otg@csolve.net or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com

Hi Peggy: Now I understand! Prior to 1855, there was no official registration with Scotland's registry office. Bmd's were recorded in what is called the Old Parish Registers which were just what the name implies, Register books in which the minister in each Parish in Scotland recorded the vital events of that particular parish. You can order a copy of the Old Parish Register entry for the couple thru this site: http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ or go to your local LDS family history centre. On the above-noted page, if you scroll down the page to Getting Started, there is a tutorial on researching people in Scotland. This page will give you info on what you may expect to find on an Old Parish Register marriage entry: http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/help/index.aspx?r=554&406 Some marriage records have more info than others. There is no guarantee that an OPR will give you anything more than the names of the parties, etc. Click on Example of OPR banns and marriages image to see what yours may look like. You can purchase online the marriage entry that you seek, if you choose. Info on fees, etc, here: http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/help/index.aspx?r=554&409 I assume it is this entry on the LDS website that you are referring to: FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles MARGARET DOCHERTY Female Event(s): Marriages: Spouse: DAVID JOHNSTONE Marriage: 31 DEC 1828 Gorbals, Lanark, Scotland Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M119354 1820 - 1831 1042982,1042984 Film 6901706 Film M119354 1820 - 1831 0102945 Film NONE You can also order in the film which contains this entry, M119354, at your local LDS family history centre. Staff there will be more than willing to assist you. Or you can order in just the page containing the entry for your people, also at your local LDS family history centre. And I assume you will have already found these birth and/or christening records: FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles ISABELLA JOHNSTONE Female Event(s): Birth: 06 MAY 1830 Christening: 30 MAY 1830 Gorbals, Lanark, Scotland Parents: Father: DAVID JOHNSTONE Mother: MARGARET DOCHERTY Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C119355 1828 - 1832 1042982 Film 6901705 Film FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles DAVID JOHNSTON Male Event(s): Birth: 23 JUL 1832 19 AUG 1832 Gorbals, Lanark, Scotland Parents: Father: DAVID JOHNSTON Mother: MARGARET DOHERTY Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C119355 1828 - 1832 1042982 Film 6901705 Film Best of luck with your search, Marg in Sunny Alberta PALarge@aol.com wrote: > > >In a message dated 29/07/2007 11:21:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >mmcfarla@telusplanet.net writes: > >Perhaps some of your message was missing as I am not sure what you mean >when you say: > >"I have found a marriage in Glasgow, Scotland of my ggggrandparents how >ended up in Hamilton Ontario." > > > >Well I see the problem is "how" should be "who" ended up in Hamilton > >I found a marriage of David Johnstone to Margaret Doherty 1828 in Gorbals >Lanark Scotland and I don't know how to get a copy of a marriage out of >Scotland. Ontario information isn't a problem. Sorry I caused you to type out all >the Ontario information. > >Peggy Large UE > > >"I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I'm dead" >thanks to Jimmy Buffett! > > > > > >*********** >Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >__________ NOD32 2428 (20070730) Information __________ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.eset.com > > > > >

In a message dated 29/07/2007 11:21:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mmcfarla@telusplanet.net writes: Perhaps some of your message was missing as I am not sure what you mean when you say: "I have found a marriage in Glasgow, Scotland of my ggggrandparents how ended up in Hamilton Ontario." Well I see the problem is "how" should be "who" ended up in Hamilton I found a marriage of David Johnstone to Margaret Doherty 1828 in Gorbals Lanark Scotland and I don't know how to get a copy of a marriage out of Scotland. Ontario information isn't a problem. Sorry I caused you to type out all the Ontario information. Peggy Large UE "I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I'm dead" thanks to Jimmy Buffett!

As Ontario was a hot bed of Scottish immigration I hope someone will be able to help. I have found a marriage in Glasgow, Scotland of my ggggrandparents how ended up in Hamilton Ontario. I have no idea how to get a copy of a marriage from there. If anyone has successfully accomplished this feat I would appreciate any instruction. It may not be entirely on topic so it may be of least trouble to the list if the information comes directly to me. Thanking all in advance for reading. Peggy Large UE "I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I'm dead" thanks to Jimmy Buffett!

Hi Peggy: Perhaps some of your message was missing as I am not sure what you mean when you say: "I have found a marriage in Glasgow, Scotland of my ggggrandparents how ended up in Hamilton Ontario." If you are asking to find birth, marriage, death registrations in Ontario post-1869, they are on Ancestry and those of us who have subscriptions to their databases would be happy to look up entries for you, births 1869 - 1907, marriages 1869 - 1922, deaths 1869 - 1932. Your local LDS family history centre will have an additional 3 years for each type of registration listed here, births up to and including 1910, marriages 1925, deaths, 1935. We need as much info as you can supply regarding the persons you are looking for, parents' names, children's names, if known, approx birth dates, or any censi that you have found them on. The more info you can supply, the easier it is to look for records abt them. The 1881 Canada census is online at www.familysearch.org, the 1901 and 1911 Canada censi at www.automatedgenealogy.com , and there may be more records as well but until we have more info from you, it is difficult to suggest sites or lookup registrations for your people. Also, be aware that even after provincial registration requirements came into effect in 1869, some folks were slow to get on board abt registering their family's vital events. Please send more info and we'll be happy to take a look for you. If you are asking abt records beyond the years I have listed above, you may gain some insight on this page: http://www.archives.gov.on.ca/english/interloan/vsmain.htm Marg in Sunny Alberta

In a message dated 28/07/2007 7:43:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, robin_mcleod@sympatico.ca writes: Pre registration but this looks like it could be it Name: Jane Johnstone Birth Place: New Brunswick, Canada Residence: Hamilton Township Age: 19 Father Name: David Johnstone Mother Name: Margret Dougherty Estimated Birth Year: 1843 Spouse Name: Alexander Henderson Spouse's Age: 23 Spouse Birth Place: Scotland Spouse Residence: Hamilton Township Spouse Estimated Birth Year: 1839 Spouse Father Name: James Henderson Spouse Mother Name : Mary Potter Marriage Date: 7 Aug 1862 Marriage Place: Woodstock Marriage County: Oxford Family History Library Microfilm: 1030062 Robin One question if I might. You site above as source but could you tell me what collection of records this covers. I go to the family history library but don't remember seeing these microfilms. I have another early one but am not aware of this information unless they cover the county books that are on the bookselves of registrations pre 1869. Peggy Large UE "I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I'm dead" thanks to Jimmy Buffett!

Jim: No, it is the same one with all the corrections and additions that appeared in the Durham County Companion. but it is basically the same book. Sher At 10:52 AM 7/27/07, you wrote: >Hi Sher >Is this something different than we already have? (The First 200 Years?) > >Jim and Wanda >=================== > >R&S leetooze wrote: > > >Listers: > >Please e-mail me off-list for information about the newly released > >second editions of the history books for these two townships. > >Sher Leetooze, > >Bowmanville > >http://sher.leetooze.googlepages.com/sherleetooze > >http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~biblechristian > > > > > > > > > > > > > >*********** >Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.22/923 - Release Date: 7/27/07 6:01 PM

Robin Thank you very much. This sure looks like her. I don't know what she was doing there but I'm missing one brother David. As I don't know where he was there is a possiblity she was living with him. I appreciate your taking the time to search for me. Peggy Large UE "I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I'm dead" thanks to Jimmy Buffett!

Hi Joanna Thanks for your answer ..... am answering your letter to you Off the Ont.List, Marlene ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Hello Marlene, > I'm no expert, but I did have a military ancestor I > was able to find records > for. > Which Regiment records did you go through - the > 100th or Royal Canadian > Rifles? The 100th reg of foot wasn't raised till > 1858 in Canada. John Nidd would have been about 46. (( ........< snipped > ................)) > Hope this helps > Joanna ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your free account today http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/mail/winter07.html

Pre registration but this looks like it could be it Name: Jane Johnstone Birth Place: New Brunswick, Canada Residence: Hamilton Township Age: 19 Father Name: David Johnstone Mother Name: Margret Dougherty Estimated Birth Year: 1843 Spouse Name: Alexander Henderson Spouse's Age: 23 Spouse Birth Place: Scotland Spouse Residence: Hamilton Township Spouse Estimated Birth Year: 1839 Spouse Father Name: James Henderson Spouse Mother Name : Mary Potter Marriage Date: 7 Aug 1862 Marriage Place: Woodstock Marriage County: Oxford Family History Library Microfilm: 1030062 Robin P.s. it is Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of PALarge@aol.com Sent: July 28, 2007 6:20 PM To: ontario@rootsweb.com Subject: [ONTARIO] someone willing to search the Ontario Registers I have a name problem I am trying to solve. I've always thought, from family, that my ggggrandmother's name was Margaret Adam born Glascow, Scotland. I received her daughter Christine Hedley's death and she lists her mother as Margaret Doherty of Scotland. What makes it worse is there is no marriage of Margaret Adam to David Johnston but there is one to Margaret Doherty on the IGI. Christine had two sisters. Mary and Jane. Mary's death register doesn't show her parents names. I need to find Jane's marriage. She wasn't married in 1869 when Mary got married as she was a witness signing Jane Johnstone. At Christine's wedding in 1872 she signed as Jane Henderson. Her family was living in Hamilton, Wentworth County, Ontario at the time. I need a marriage to verify she married a Henderson and then her death to see if she lists her mother's maiden name. Anyone that might be her would probably note Scottish and she was born ca 1842 in New Brunswick (the 1851 census says Lower Canada). Her witness would likely be either Mary Robinson or Christine Hedley. There is a possiblity one of her brothers, James, John or Thomas Johnston could also be witness. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Peggy Large UE

I have a name problem I am trying to solve. I've always thought, from family, that my ggggrandmother's name was Margaret Adam born Glascow, Scotland. I received her daughter Christine Hedley's death and she lists her mother as Margaret Doherty of Scotland. What makes it worse is there is no marriage of Margaret Adam to David Johnston but there is one to Margaret Doherty on the IGI. Christine had two sisters. Mary and Jane. Mary's death register doesn't show her parents names. I need to find Jane's marriage. She wasn't married in 1869 when Mary got married as she was a witness signing Jane Johnstone. At Christine's wedding in 1872 she signed as Jane Henderson. Her family was living in Hamilton, Wentworth County, Ontario at the time. I need a marriage to verify she married a Henderson and then her death to see if she lists her mother's maiden name. Anyone that might be her would probably note Scottish and she was born ca 1842 in New Brunswick (the 1851 census says Lower Canada). Her witness would likely be either Mary Robinson or Christine Hedley. There is a possiblity one of her brothers, James, John or Thomas Johnston could also be witness. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Peggy Large UE "I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I'm dead" thanks to Jimmy Buffett!

Thanks Robin. -- Margaret >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 10:25:29 -0400 >From: "Robin" <robin_mcleod@sympatico.ca> >Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] - 1837 Directory >To: <ontario@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <A12B07BA85B641B6B38A02D8BFB2241A@RobinPC> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Yes it is here >http://www.rootsweb.com/~onyork/people-1837.html > >Robin > >-----Original Message----- >From: ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >Behalf Of Langley >Sent: July 27, 2007 9:36 AM >To: ontario@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] ONTARIO Digest, Vol 2, Issue 327 - 1837 Directory > >Hello List: >On the subject of the 1837 Home District directory, does anyone know if it >is available online? It appears to have been at rootsweb at one time, but >all links to it there are inactive. Thanks. >-- Margaret >

Hello Marlene, I'm no expert, but I did have a military ancestor I was able to find records for. Which Regiment records did you go through - the 100th or Royal Canadian Rifles? The 100th reg of foot wasn't raised till 1858 in Canada. John Nidd would have been about 46. It doesn't seem likely to me that he would join up for another regiment. The regiment set off for England in 1858 and was stationed in Gilbralter from 1859-1863. Also since you found John Nidd in Norman Crowder's book British Army Pensioners Abroad.. from WO120 as receiving pension in 1857 I think ref to 100th reg may be inaccurate. Have you looked at WO120 yet? His marriage record says he was Private, Royal Canadian Rifles in 1849. The rifles would likely have been the one he was discharged from. But you can check these other records to be sure. Besides the soldier documents WO97 and the Chelsea Regimental records WO120 there are other records you can check. You've probably already read about what types of records are available, but just in case, there are also the following: WO 10 - 16 the muster books and pay lists WO 25 Regimental description books If you search the PRO catalogue for "Canadian Rifles" using Series code WO only, you will see these records described. Hope this helps Joanna > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 20:05:14 +0100 (BST) > From: Marlene Cox <marmelade_ca@yahoo.co.uk> > Subject: [ONTARIO] That SURNAME Again - NIDD > To: ontario@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <259308.29638.qm@web26011.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Beginning of June whilst surfing again the name of > NIDD still trying to find the early days of Pte. J. > Nidd > I came across this message below . > This is the JUST The ONLY RECORD I really need ..I > know > where he lived after he left the Army and he was a > Tailor in 1981 I know all about his children and > grankids, and eventually I will find His and his > wife's > death details > Wondering if any one can come up with any suggestions > of how I can try and find out which museum. Kew in > England didn't have his papers when I went through the > box of the Regt. last year. Thanks for any Info > Marlene in Oakville. > > ""I am very interested in the comment about the > military. The local museum just purchased a > mid 19th century barracks box marked to > J. Nidd, Royal Canadian Rifle Regiment. > The names Nidd and Nedd were very rare > surnames and seemed to be used > interchangeably in census records """ > > and this is what I asked back to the writer .... > "Is there any info you can give me of the museum that > has these documents, I would love to see if I can fit > him in the the right family of the UK Nidd Collections > that I have, I am hoping somewhere there will be > mention of where he was born and his parents names or > at least his Dad's > Hoping you will be able to help me ......... > John Nidd in 1849 was Pte. of the 100th Foot attached > to the Royal Canadian Rifles in Niagara area when his > son William was born and christened.

Hello List: On the subject of the 1837 Home District directory, does anyone know if it is available online? It appears to have been at rootsweb at one time, but all links to it there are inactive. Thanks. -- Margaret >------------------------------ > >Message: 8 >Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 23:59:25 -0400 >From: "Bonnie" <bjrgen@sympatico.ca> >Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] burials Toronto and York County pre-1861 >To: <ontario@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <00ac01c7d002$85fd7200$ca2afea9@Bonnie> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > >Thanks Robin. > > I will check St James Cathedral transcription next week and contact St >James Cemetery before I go. > >I have seen transcripts for Carrville, Maple and Zion Primitive >Methodist....no luck. >> Have you tried Carrville Cemetery or Maple Cemetery or even Zion Primitive >> Methodist at Don Mills & Finch (earliest 1854)? > >I assume data for 1837 Home District Directory was collected the previous >year which is the year the family arrived from England which is why they >were missed. > >The sons did not purchase land until later so family`s residence in York >Township is a bit of a mystery. John and Mary`s eldest son, Thomas RUMBLE >(my direct line) appears a conc 4, lot 4 York Twp in 1846 directory. There >were several people listed on this lot and concession so presumably it was a >village. I checked a couple of old maps and there seems to be two options... >west of Yonge near Weston or east of Yonge (could not determine exact >location)....I think it more likely they were east of Yonge Street. > >Bonnie >

Yes it is here http://www.rootsweb.com/~onyork/people-1837.html Robin -----Original Message----- From: ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Langley Sent: July 27, 2007 9:36 AM To: ontario@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] ONTARIO Digest, Vol 2, Issue 327 - 1837 Directory Hello List: On the subject of the 1837 Home District directory, does anyone know if it is available online? It appears to have been at rootsweb at one time, but all links to it there are inactive. Thanks. -- Margaret