The births are up to 1910, marriages up to 1925 and deaths up to 1935. Ancestry has births to 1909, marriages to 1924 and deaths to 1934. Jane in Cooksville (Mississauga) Ontario, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: <Trunthsams@aol.com> To: <Ontario-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 11:04 AM Subject: [ONTARIO] birth lookup 1909-1911 > I see that the LDS films are out for births through 1911. > > I just found a death reg for an infant who died in 1908 3 days after birth. > I am sure his birth was not registered. Anyway, the father is a huge new > find for us. Daniel Roe/Roe married to a Margaret Napes (sp?). The child was > Daniel Frederick. This was 1931. The marriage reg might now be on the index. > My only hope is to look for a death reg for Daniel, Margaret or any child > through 1935. > > I am also tracking Daniel's mother, Fanny (Smith) Scott. Fanny was married > to George Roe in Copper Cliff. That marriage reg. I have. George died in > 1908 and Fanny married a William Scott in 1910. On the 1911 census I find > Fanny Scott with her two Rowe (sp) sons in Copper Cliff without William. She is > married not widowed. I can't find William Scott somewhere else. Is he on > the death regs between 1932-1935. > > This should all be in Sudbury/Copper Cliff. > > And I know Ancestry just caught up to 1907 birth and 1932 deaths but LDS is > at 1911 and 1937. Will they catch up soon? > > Thanks for any input! > > Bonnie > > > > **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes > (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) > > *********** > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I see that the LDS films are out for births through 1911. I just found a death reg for an infant who died in 1908 3 days after birth. I am sure his birth was not registered. Anyway, the father is a huge new find for us. Daniel Roe/Roe married to a Margaret Napes (sp?). The child was Daniel Frederick. This was 1931. The marriage reg might now be on the index. My only hope is to look for a death reg for Daniel, Margaret or any child through 1935. I am also tracking Daniel's mother, Fanny (Smith) Scott. Fanny was married to George Roe in Copper Cliff. That marriage reg. I have. George died in 1908 and Fanny married a William Scott in 1910. On the 1911 census I find Fanny Scott with her two Rowe (sp) sons in Copper Cliff without William. She is married not widowed. I can't find William Scott somewhere else. Is he on the death regs between 1932-1935. This should all be in Sudbury/Copper Cliff. And I know Ancestry just caught up to 1907 birth and 1932 deaths but LDS is at 1911 and 1937. Will they catch up soon? Thanks for any input! Bonnie **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004)

Catherine I did not see an answer to this posted to the list so.... If there was an official investigation done then what you want are coroner reports. Some early coroner records do survive and can be found at the Archives of Ontario in the court records. But I am sorry to say the coroner reports for Lanark Co or United Counties of Lanark and Renfrew (1850-1866) do not seem to have survived. The other thing you might try is checking the local newspaper some papers carried reports on such investigations. I have a brief newspaper article for one of my ancestors. Regards Kathie Orr _________________________________________________________ KORR Services 405 - 100 Maitland St., Toronto, ON M4Y 1E2 416-944-1794 kathie.orr@sympatico.ca stay in touch with your past to ensure your future -----Original Message----- From: Catherine Randall [mailto:crandall@andrewswireless.net] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 9:59 PM To: ONTARIO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ONTARIO] Death report of 1851 Could someone tell me whether or not an official report would have been made in 1851 when someone died as the result of a work accident and if so, where would such a report be archived - I'm referring to Smiths Falls, ON. Thank you. Catherine

The census was taken every 10 years from 1841 (which was really 1842) on. There are earlier scattered census records available for certain localities. So yes there is an 1891 (not 1890) census available. See http://allcensusrecords.com/ for info on where available census are kept. Lorine On 10 Dec 2007 at 12:37, tbrew@uwindsor.ca wrote: > I cannot seem to find a 1890 census. Is there one or is there one nearest > to 1890? I am searching in the Renfrew County of Ontario area > -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ * Images of Ships Lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ otg@csolve.net or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com

I cannot seem to find a 1890 census. Is there one or is there one nearest to 1890? I am searching in the Renfrew County of Ontario area Thanks.... Tom

The census was taken in April of 1891 Vi ----- Original Message ----- From: <tbrew@uwindsor.ca> To: <ontario@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 10:37 AM Subject: [ONTARIO] Is there a 1890 Ontario census? >I cannot seem to find a 1890 census. Is there one or is there one nearest > to 1890? I am searching in the Renfrew County of Ontario area > > Thanks.... > > Tom > > *********** > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

You're reply gave me a bit of a laugh... I'm not too helpful if I'm sending the wrong info...... Ah well, I guess I got over ambitious in looking for Ann Winfield. Cheers! Doreen ======= > From: bpmax@seascape.ns.ca > To: ontario@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 16:22:19 -0400 > Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] RE-LLEWELY-STEWART > > Hi Doreen > Thankyou for this info. > It is very good of you to send it. > The only thing is the info you sent on the Winfield's is totally wrong for > this family. > Annies father was Christopher Winfield > mother Annie Winfield > and they are all from Middlesex, England. > You are a very helpful person. > Sharon > > > *********** > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Introducing the City @ Live! Take a tour! http://getyourliveid.ca/?icid=LIVEIDENCA006

Here is some information for you - you'll note that Richard Stewart, Jr., is listed at home and married in 1911 Census. There appears that he had only one sister and I was looking for a marriage for her, but Ancestry.ca and my computer went on a holiday together (g) so I'll check later. Birth registrations are only available up to 1909 through Ancestry, but LDS has a few more recent years on microfilm, it just takes awhile between Ontario release date and Ancestry update. ............. Source: Ancestry.ca ....... Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1909 about William Richard Stewart Name: William Richard Stewart Date of Birth: 7 Apr 1893 Gender: Male Birth County: York Father's Name: Richard Stewart Mother's Name: Anna McCluskey Roll Number: MS929_119 .... 1901 Census of Canada Page Information District: ON TORONTO (Centre) (City/Cité) (#116) Subdistrict: Ward/Quartier No. 3 A-8 Page 5 Stewart Richard M Head M Jan 9 1873 28 Stewart Annie F Wife M Apr 22 1868 32 Stewart Richard M Son S May 1 1893 7 Stewart Violet F Daughter S Mar 6 1895 6 McGreggor Edwin M roomer S Jun 7 1877 23 ....... 1911 / Ontario / Toronto East / 17 Toronto / page 14 Stewart Richard 136 Seaton M Head M Jan 1873 38 Stewart Annie F Wife M Apr 1869 42 Stewart Richard M Son S May 1893 18 Stewart Violet F Daughter S May 1895 16 Baker Joseph M Boarder S Sep 1885 25 ......... Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924 about Richard William Stewart Name: Richard William Stewart Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890 Father Name: Richard William Stewart Mother Name: Annie McCloskey Spouse Name: Ada Llewellyn (neé Rolfe) Spouse's Age: 19 Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892 Spouse Father Name: Wm Llewellyn Spouse Mother Name: Annie Winfield Marriage Date: 12 Jul 1911 Marriage Place: York Marriage County: York Family History Library Microfilm: MS932_189 ..... 1911 / Ontario / Toronto Centre / 25 ward 3 / page 9 Llewelyn Annie F Head M May 1862 49 (Tailor) Stewart Richard M ? M May 1890 20 (Pattern maker) Stewart Ada F ? S Dec 1891 19 Stewart Arthur M ? S Mar 1897 13 NB: - this census shows that Annie and daughter Ada arrived in Canada from England in 1900, but they do not appear on the 1901 Canada Census... that I could find. ... 1881 British Census - Household: WINFIELD Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Fredrick WINFIELD Head W Male 45 Chaddesden, Derby, England Colliery Enj Stoker Ann WINFIELD Daur U Female 19 Stanley, Derby, England Housekeeper Joseph WINFIELD Son U Male 15 Stanley, Derby, England Coal Miner Fredrick WINFIELD Son U Male 13 Stanley, Derby, England Scholar Elizabeth WINFIELD Daur U Female 11 Stanley, Derby, England Scholar Mary A. WINFIELD Daur Female 5 Stanley, Derby, England Scholar - Source Information: Dwelling Station Road Census Place Stanley, Derby, England Family History Library Film 1341811 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 3393 / 30 Page Number 6 ..... Cheers! Doreen PS - you noted Ann Llewellyn as "nee Rolfe" but that can't be as "neé" means born. For your record keeping it should be Llewellyn (formerly Rolfe) nee Winfield. ======================== > From: bpmax@seascape.ns.ca > To: ontario@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 18:46:36 -0400 > Subject: [ONTARIO] RE-LLEWELY-STEWART > > Hello fellow listers > I am searching my family history and have found that one of my grandfathers sisters came to Canada with mom and when here got married to a Mr. Richard William Stewart of Toronto Center. > > Thery were married on July 12, 1911 in York, county of York. > > Richard William Stewart b. about 1890 in Canada ? > Ada Llewelyn b. about 1892 in Middlesex, England. > > Richard's parents were - Richard William Stewart > - Annie Stewart (nee McCloskey) > > Ada's birth father was- Robert Henry Rolfe (died 1891) > adopted father- William E. Llewelyn > mother- Annie Llewelyn (nee Rolfe) (nee Winfield.) > > Would anyone have these people in their family tree. > If you do would you please get in touch as we would love to hear from you and for you to get to know some more of your relatives. Also to trade info and pics if possible. > > Sharon from NS, Canada > > > > > > > > > *********** > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Use fowl language with Chicktionary. Click here to start playing! http://puzzles.sympatico.msn.ca/chicktionary/index.html?icid=htmlsig

Hi Doreen Thankyou for this info. It is very good of you to send it. The only thing is the info you sent on the Winfield's is totally wrong for this family. Annies father was Christopher Winfield mother Annie Winfield and they are all from Middlesex, England. You are a very helpful person. Sharon

To go on line at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~maryc/thisisit.htm Format - Registration No. and 2 digit year (ie 123456-78); (County); Groom-given and SURNAME; age; occupation; birth place; residence; parents; Bride-given and SURNAME; age; birth place; residence; parents; witness('s); date and place of marriage. Division Of Springfield 002520-81 (Elgin) William H. HEARN; 23; Farmer; England; Tilsonburg(Sic); s/o John & Eliza (surname not shown) married Learnia E. HELLAKER; 22; (birthplace not shown); Bayham; d/o Thomas & Sarah Jane (Surname not shown); wtns Theodore & Mary A. YOUNG of Tilsonburgh(sic); September 13, 1881 at Springfield. 002521-81 (Elgin) John BELL; 33 (Widower); Carriage Maker; Ireland; Springfield; s/o Henderson & Mary Ann BELL; married Mary E. JOHNSON; 23; Dorchester South; Springfield; d/o Ruben & Elizabeth JOHNSON; wtns Ida KENNEDY of Middlesex & H. JOHNSON of Springfield; September 13 1881 at Springfield. 002522-81 (Elgin) Charles Albert McBETH; 20; Farmer; (Birthplace not shown); Dereham; s/o George & Isabella McBETH married Jane Sitley(?) McCLELAND (? smudged); 23; Helisby(?)Ontario; Oxford County; d/o Thomas & Susan McCLELAND(?); wtns H. A, & Ella RUSSEL of Springfield; date not shown at Springfield. Division of Aylmer 002414-80 (Elgin) Rueben E. BOWEN; 26; Farmer; Canada; Malahide Ontario; s/o William & Lydia BOWEN; married Alice LEESON; 20; Canada; Malahide; d/o John & Jane (Surname not shown); wtns Mary M. BOWEN & Charles LEESON both of Malahide; May 12, 1880 at Malahide. 002415-80 (Elgin) Charles SHIPMAN; 27; Farmer; Canada; Bayham; s/o Elias & Phebe(sic); married Alice HOWE; 16; Canada; Malahide; d/o James & Mary (surname not shown); wtns Abraham SMITH & Hattie B. FISH both of Aylmer; May 24, 1880 at Aylmer. 002416-80 (Elgin) Peter FERGUSON; 62 (Widower) Farmer; Scotland; South Dorchester; s/o Colin & Ellen (Surname not shown); married Esther DENNIS: 45; (widow); Canada; Malahide: d/o Thomas & Elizabeth STILLWELL; wtns Mable DENNIS of Malahide & Hattie FISH of Aylmer; June 1, 1880 at Aylmer. More to come now that our flooded apartment is repaired and we are back to normal...A bit more info available at lzuefelt@sympatico.ca off line please Cheers.. Bill Zuefelt, Rodney Ont.

> Thank you so much for all the help in getting information re WW2. Very interesting and informative. Christine > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. WW2 inquirie (Annette Fulford) > 2. RE-STEWART-LLEWELYN (sharon macvicar) > 3. VAN RIPER - WINYALL (Marjorie B. Winter) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2007 07:10:38 -0800 > From: Annette Fulford <arfulford@shaw.ca> > Subject: [ONTARIO] WW2 inquirie > To: ontario@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <000301c838e3$5a4c7170$6400a8c0@mitchhhakcig8q> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > You can find info WW2 Soldiers at the Commonwealth War Graves Commission at > http://www.cwgc.org/ or Veterans Affairs > http://www.vac-acc.gc.ca/remembers/sub.cfm?source=collections . Plus the > Canadian War Museum has a database of newspaper articles about WW2 in > Democracy at War: Canadian Newspapers and the Second World War > http://www.warmuseum.ca/cwm/newspapers/intro_e.html . > > Annette > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2007 07:58:24 -0500 > From: chorodenka@cogeco.ca > Subject: [ONTARIO] WW2 inquirie > To: ontario@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <47594370.1fb.51cb.27239@cogeco.ca> > > I have forgotten the site that I can get information and documents re died > soldiers from Canada during WW2. I would > appreciate your information. Thank you. > Christine in Burlington. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 21:05:34 -0400 > From: "sharon macvicar" <bpmax@seascape.ns.ca> > Subject: [ONTARIO] RE-STEWART-LLEWELYN > To: <ontario@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000a01c83936$6fde3570$35f9e018@MissOne> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello fellow listers; > I am researching my family and have found out that my gr grandmother Annie Rolfe remarried after my gr grandfather > died in 1891. She remarried to a Mr. Llewelyn and then in 1905 Annie Llewelyn and two of her children came to Canada. > They went to Toronto Center where I found them on the 1911 census as follows: > > Annie Llewelyn Head > Richard Stewart Border > Ada Stewart " > Arthur Stewart " > > My gr grandmother is Annie Llewelyn and the son and daughter she came to Canada with are Ada and Arthur. > Now when the enumerator came around the only thing I can think of that happened is that Richard was the only one home > and is the one to have given him or her the info. Now Richard and Ada may have gotten married but Arthur is not a > Stewart. The person doing the enumerating may have mistaken the fact that they may have just taken it for granted > that Arthur was a Stewart. > > Now, with this tidbit I would like to know if there is anyone who is reseaching the Stewart line that may have Richard > b. about 1890 in it. In 1911 they lived at on the census it says 225 Victoria street, but I think it should be 255 > Victoria Street in Toronto Center. I believe he was a pattern-maker for his trade. > > If Richard and Ada did get married her name would be Florence Gertrude and (Ada) would have been a nickname. > Please let me know if you have info you would like to share. > Sharon > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 20:38:55 -0500 > From: "Marjorie B. Winter" <marjw@suddenlink.net> > Subject: [ONTARIO] VAN RIPER - WINYALL > To: <ontario@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <402A84DEC05445CBABC9FF333CDCA51B@MarjPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I would like to correspond with individuals who bear these two surnames. I > am told the my WINYALL family had some connection to the automotive industry > in Canada before they came to the Detroit, Michigan, USA, area. This would > be about 1830. I also have been told that Harmon J. VanRiper, Jr. of > Minneapolis, Minnesota,USA visited Van Ripers in Ontario during the 1920s. > In particular, I am searching for relatives of Catharine Winyall, b. about > 1831, who married Harmon J. VanRiper in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 1948. > This VanRiper was part of the New York/New Jersey Van Riper family. The > family also had contacts in Michigan. Hope to hear from you. Marj Winter > in North Carolina, USA > > -----Original Message----- > From: ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of ontario-request@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 9:46 AM > To: ontario@rootsweb.com > Subject: ONTARIO Digest, Vol 2, Issue 447 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. "British Home Children" (STRATTON) (Betty) > 2. WW2 inquirie (chorodenka@cogeco.ca) > 3. Re: Re Home Children (Olive Tree Genealogy) > 4. Re: Re Home Children (Robin) > 5. Re: Re Stratton (Robin) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 06:45:30 -0500 > From: "Betty" <bbffrrpp@comcast.net> > Subject: [ONTARIO] "British Home Children" (STRATTON) > To: <ontario@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <3a7501c838c6$ab787f20$ca57c047@LivingRoom> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Bill, > > One of my thoughts (at 5 am my time) is: Are you sure that your > grandfather came over in 1911 ? Is it possible he came over in the 1890's > > and at first came to another Province? > > I've been on the BHC List for over 5 years, so I'm familiar with the > situations. And, in my great-grandmother's family, she and her younger > siblings came over 1874, and she was 14 * and her youngest siblings were 5 > and 3. I found out last year that their older brother came over in 1873 > at 17. He was at the Akbar Reformatory Ship in Liverpool, England; his > > siblings were at the "Liverpool Sheltering Homes." > > My great-grandfather also came over 1874 at Age 14; he also came over from > > the Liverpool Sheltering Homes. > > If you go to the page on the web site for the Canada Library and Archives, > you will find some information: > > http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/archivianet/home-children/index-e.html > > I just did a search for the first name, Llewellen (sp?), and used the > "wild card feature," and I found out that 22 children or young adults had > > that as either a first name or middle name: > > http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/archivianet/home-children/001015-110.01-e > php?PHPSESSID=nsj4v7tk9v0hobtjhnd3sfhbe2&q1=&q2=ll*&q3=&q4=&q5=&interval=20 > > And, there were about 10 children with the STRATTON surname. (Also used > > the "wild card feature" for Str * .... > > One of them was an F. STRATTON (male) coming over in 1893 at Age 11. > > There were 5 more with the STRETTON spelling, and one with STREETON and one > more spelled STRUTTON. > > Over 2600 of the "home children" had the first name, Frederick or Fred, or > the middle name. > > There was a Frederick STRETTON, 14, coming over in 1906. > > Just an FYI for researchers. If you have a spare hour over the weekend, > take a peek at all the surnames in this BHC data base. (And, there > > are other BHC data bases.) And, both the term, "British Home Children" > and "Home Children, Canada," are searchable at www.google.com > > > Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) > > My BHC great-grandparents had the surnames, LEWIS and CORKILL / CORKHILL. > > > > We may have arrived on different ships but we're all in the same boat now. > :o) > > > (thinking genealogy) > (possibly first said by Martin Luther King, Jr.) > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2007 07:58:24 -0500 > From: chorodenka@cogeco.ca > Subject: [ONTARIO] WW2 inquirie > To: ontario@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <47594370.1fb.51cb.27239@cogeco.ca> > > >I have forgotten the site that I can get information and documents re > >died soldiers from Canada during WW2. I would > appreciate your information. Thank you. > Christine in Burlington. > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. New at the Library and Archives Canada (Annette Fulford) > > 2. Re Home Children (bill.stratton@ns.sympatico.ca) > > 3. Re: Re Home Children (joyce stevens) > > 4. Re: Re Home Children (Jane Watt) > > 5. Re: Re Home Children (joyce stevens) > > 6. Re: Re Home Children (Jane Watt) > > 7. Re: Re Home Children (Nelson Denton) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 06:40:23 -0800 > > From: Annette Fulford <arfulford@shaw.ca> > > Subject: [ONTARIO] New at the Library and Archives Canada > > To: ONTARIO@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: <002501c83815$efa4e910$6400a8c0@mitchhhakcig8q> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > > > > North West Mounted Police (NWMP) - Personnel Records, 1873-1904 > > http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/nwmp-pcno/index-e.html > > > > > > > > Annette Fulford > > Canadian War Brides of the First World War > > http://ww1warbrides.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 21:41:31 -0400 > > From: <bill.stratton@ns.sympatico.ca> > > Subject: [ONTARIO] Re Home Children > > To: <ontario@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID: <001a01c83872$4b4528f0$663efea9@yourus67pi6luv> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Good Day > > > > Home Children > > > > > > What did a Home Child consist of and what was the age of the children > > comming to Canada to settle in Toronto between > > 1911 to 1916 > > > > The problem is my Grandfather Llewellyn Lyndsie Stretton Stratton > > claims that he was born in Malta 29 February 1880 of British Parents. > > > > Wouldn't this make him a little old to be a Home Child ? > > > > The problem is that no where is he to be found entering into Canada or > > on the 1911 Census under his above name My father's second name was > > Frederick meaning son of and granddad was named Frederick when he was > > baptized according to my father's Services records When he was married > > in Toronto in 1916 he was an widower to who I have no idea when he > > married my grandmother > > > > Bill Stratton > > > > Dartmouth NS > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 21:13:28 -0500 > > From: "joyce stevens" <joycestevens@twmi.rr.com> > > Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] Re Home Children > > To: <ontario@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID: <003301c83876$c190ae40$44b20ac0$@rr.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > Yes, I agree with you, he was much too old to have been a Home Child. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > > bill.stratton@ns.sympatico.ca > > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 8:42 PM > > To: ontario@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [ONTARIO] Re Home Children > > > > Good Day > > > > Home Children > > > > > > What did a Home Child consist of and what was the age of the children > > comming to Canada to settle in Toronto between 1911 to 1916 > > > > The problem is my Grandfather Llewellyn Lyndsie Stretton Stratton > > claims that he was born in Malta 29 February 1880 of British Parents. > > > > Wouldn't this make him a little old to be a Home Child ? > > > > The problem is that no where is he to be found entering into Canada or > > on the 1911 Census under his above name My father's second name was > > Frederick meaning son of and granddad was named Frederick when he was > > baptized according to my father's Services records When he was married > > in Toronto in 1916 he was an widower to who I have no idea when he > > married my grandmother > > > > Bill Stratton > > > > Dartmouth NS > > > > *********** > > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at > > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 21:34:24 -0500 > > From: "Jane Watt" <jwatt@ica.net> > > Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] Re Home Children > > To: <ontario@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID: <003301c83879$b09656a0$978397d1@janescomputer> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > I don't know about that. My sister in law's mother was born in 1899 > > and came to Canada through Dr. Bernardo's Homes in about 1910. > > Jane in Cooksville (Mississauga) Ontario, Canada > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: joyce stevens <joycestevens@twmi.rr.com> > > To: <ontario@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 9:13 PM > > Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] Re Home Children > > > > > > > Yes, I agree with you, he was much too old to have been a Home Child. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com > > > [mailto:ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > On > > > Behalf Of bill.stratton@ns.sympatico.ca > > > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 8:42 PM > > > To: ontario@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: [ONTARIO] Re Home Children > > > > > > Good Day > > > > > > Home Children > > > > > > > > > What did a Home Child consist of and what was the age of the > > > children comming to Canada to settle in Toronto between 1911 to 1916 > > > > > > The problem is my Grandfather Llewellyn Lyndsie Stretton Stratton > > > claims that he was born in Malta 29 February 1880 of British Parents. > > > > > > Wouldn't this make him a little old to be a Home Child ? > > > > > > The problem is that no where is he to be found entering into Canada > > > or on the 1911 Census under his above name My father's second name > > > was Frederick meaning son of and granddad was > > named > > > Frederick when he was baptized according to my father's Services > > > records When he was married in Toronto in 1916 he was an widower to > > > who I have no idea when he married my grandmother > > > > > > Bill Stratton > > > > > > Dartmouth NS > > > > > > *********** > > > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at > > > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > *********** > > > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at > > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 5 > > Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 21:31:35 -0500 > > From: "joyce stevens" <joycestevens@twmi.rr.com> > > Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] Re Home Children > > To: <ontario@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID: <000001c83879$49ba6610$dd2f3230$@rr.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > Born 1880, came to Canada 1911 = 31 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane Watt > > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 9:34 PM > > To: ontario@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] Re Home Children > > > > I don't know about that. My sister in law's mother was born in 1899 > > and came to Canada through Dr. Bernardo's Homes in about 1910. > > Jane in Cooksville (Mississauga) Ontario, Canada > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: joyce stevens <joycestevens@twmi.rr.com> > > To: <ontario@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 9:13 PM > > Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] Re Home Children > > > > > > > Yes, I agree with you, he was much too old to have been a Home Child. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com > > > [mailto:ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > On > > > Behalf Of bill.stratton@ns.sympatico.ca > > > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 8:42 PM > > > To: ontario@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: [ONTARIO] Re Home Children > > > > > > Good Day > > > > > > Home Children > > > > > > > > > What did a Home Child consist of and what was the age of the > > > children comming to Canada to settle in Toronto between 1911 to 1916 > > > > > > The problem is my Grandfather Llewellyn Lyndsie Stretton Stratton > > > claims that he was born in Malta 29 February 1880 of British Parents. > > > > > > Wouldn't this make him a little old to be a Home Child ? > > > > > > The problem is that no where is he to be found entering into Canada > > > or on the 1911 Census under his above name My father's second name > > > was Frederick meaning son of and granddad was > > named > > > Frederick when he was baptized according to my father's Services > > > records When he was married in Toronto in 1916 he was an widower to > > > who I have no idea when he married my grandmother > > > > > > Bill Stratton > > > > > > Dartmouth NS > > > > > > *********** > > > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at > > > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > *********** > > > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at > > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > *********** > > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at > > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 6 > > Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 21:43:10 -0500 > > From: "Jane Watt" <jwatt@ica.net> > > Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] Re Home Children > > To: <ontario@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID: <005501c8387a$e9a920c0$978397d1@janescomputer> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Sorry, it's late. I took it that you meant 1911 was too late for home > > children coming to Canada. Next time I'll read the message more carefully. > > Jane in Cooksville (Mississauga) Ontario, Canada > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: joyce stevens <joycestevens@twmi.rr.com> > > To: <ontario@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 9:31 PM > > Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] Re Home Children > > > > > > > Born 1880, came to Canada 1911 = 31 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com > > > [mailto:ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > On > > > Behalf Of Jane Watt > > > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 9:34 PM > > > To: ontario@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] Re Home Children > > > > > > I don't know about that. My sister in law's mother was born in 1899 > > > and > > came > > > to Canada through Dr. Bernardo's Homes in about 1910. > > > Jane in Cooksville (Mississauga) Ontario, Canada > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: joyce stevens <joycestevens@twmi.rr.com> > > > To: <ontario@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 9:13 PM > > > Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] Re Home Children > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I agree with you, he was much too old to have been a Home Child. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com > > > > [mailto:ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > > On > > > > Behalf Of bill.stratton@ns.sympatico.ca > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 8:42 PM > > > > To: ontario@rootsweb.com > > > > Subject: [ONTARIO] Re Home Children > > > > > > > > Good Day > > > > > > > > Home Children > > > > > > > > > > > > What did a Home Child consist of and what was the age of the > > > > children comming to Canada to settle in Toronto between 1911 to > > > > 1916 > > > > > > > > The problem is my Grandfather Llewellyn Lyndsie Stretton Stratton > > > > claims that he was born in Malta 29 February 1880 of British Parents. > > > > > > > > Wouldn't this make him a little old to be a Home Child ? > > > > > > > > The problem is that no where is he to be found entering into > > > > Canada or > > on > > > > the 1911 Census under his above name My father's second name was > > > > Frederick meaning son of and granddad was > > > named > > > > Frederick when he was baptized according to my father's Services > > > > records When he was married in Toronto in 1916 he was an widower > > > > to who I have > > no > > > > idea when he married my grandmother > > > > > > > > Bill Stratton > > > > > > > > Dartmouth NS > > > > > > > > *********** > > > > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at > > > > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > > the > > > quotes > > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *********** > > > > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at > > > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > *********** > > > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at > > > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > *********** > > > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at > > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 7 > > Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 22:37:06 -0500 > > From: "Nelson Denton" <ndenton@cogeco.ca> > > Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] Re Home Children > > To: <ontario@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID: <00bf01c83882$715af730$6401a8c0@NELSON> > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > > reply-type=original > > > > I'm a bit confused. Was Graddad Llewellyn or Frederick Sr.? > > > > "Home Children" came to Canada roughly from the 1830's to the 1950's. > > There were about 100,000 of them. > > > > Nelson > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > To contact the ONTARIO list administrator, send an email to > > ONTARIO-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > > To post a message to the ONTARIO mailing list, send an email to > ONTARIO@rootsweb.com. > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. > > > > > > End of ONTARIO Digest, Vol 2, Issue 446 > > *************************************** > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2007 08:27:20 -0500 > From: "Olive Tree Genealogy" <otg@csolve.net> > Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] Re Home Children > To: bill.stratton@ns.sympatico.ca > Cc: ontario@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <475903E8.32206.1A9339@localhost> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > > > > > > > > What did a Home Child consist of and what was the age of the > > > children comming to Canada to settle in Toronto between 1911 to 1916 > > > > > > The problem is my Grandfather Llewellyn Lyndsie Stretton Stratton > > > claims that he was born in Malta 29 February 1880 of British Parents. > > > > > > > Between 1869 and the early 1930s, over 100,000 children were sent to Canada > from Great Britain during the child emigration movement > > NAC (National Archives of Canada) has indexed the names of these Home > Children found in passenger lists at NAC, and there is a searchable database > at http://www.archives.ca/02/020110_e.html > > > A search engine for the online 1925-1935 NAC index can be found at > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/search_shipscanada.shtml > > If you find a name of interest, you can contact Barnardo's for the records. > They can be reached at > > aftercare@barnardos.org.uk > > And of course you can order the microfilm to view the passenger list for > yourself.. > > Also see Home Children at > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/homekids.shtml > > Have you visited Marj Kholi's "Young Immigrants to Canada" > website? > > http://www.ist.uwaterloo.ca/~marj/genealogy/homeadd.html > http://www.ist.uwaterloo.ca/~marj/genealogy/children/Organiz > ations/societies.html > http://www.ist.uwaterloo.ca/~marj/genealogy/children/Organiz > ations/barnardo.html > > See also the link to "Barnardo After Care" on Marj's website. > > > -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze > > * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ > * Naturalization Records > http://naturalizationrecords.com/ > * Images of Ships Lists > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ > > otg@csolve.net or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 09:21:49 -0500 > From: "Robin" <robin_mcleod@sympatico.ca> > Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] Re Home Children > To: <ontario@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP130A2F4982D13A8802E3A59A680@CEZ.ICE> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Bill said he couldn't find him in the 1911 census, which doesn't mean he > came to Canada in 1911. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of bill.stratton@ns.sympatico.ca > Sent: December 6, 2007 8:42 PM > To: ontario@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ONTARIO] Re Home Children > > > ..The problem is my Grandfather Llewellyn Lyndsie Stretton Stratton claims > that he was born in Malta 29 February 1880 of British Parents... > The problem is that no where is he to be found entering into Canada or on > the 1911 Census under his above name > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 09:45:12 -0500 > From: "Robin" <robin_mcleod@sympatico.ca> > Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] Re Stratton > To: <ontario@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP0972EF5E0A44BB55C674F59A680@CEZ.ICE> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Bill - I think I found his first marriage in Ontario. It was registered > twice > > Name: Lindsay F Stratton > Birth Place: Melbourne Australia > Age: 23 > Father Name: Llewellyn Stratton > Mother Name: ? Lindsay > Occupation: Driver > Spouse Name: Margaret A Slevin > Spouse's Age: 23 > Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882 > Spouse Birth Place: Ireland > Spouse Father Name: John Slevin > Spouse Mother Name: ? Colton > Marriage Date: 3 Oct 1905 > Marriage Place: York > Marriage County: York > Microfilm: MS932_120 > Registration Number: 001051-06 (registered in 1906) > Volume: A Page: 7 > > Name: Lindsay F Stratton > Birth Place: England > Age: 24 > Occupation: Labourer > Parents: Blank > Spouse Name: Margaret A Selvin > Spouse's Age: 23 > Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882 > Spouse Birth Place: Ireland > Parents: Blank > Occupation: Domestic > Marriage Date: 3 Oct 1905 > Witnesses: Conrad Mahler and Emma Mahler both of Toronto > Married by: Rev H.W. Davis > Marriage Place: York > Marriage County: York > Microfilm: MS932_126 > Registration Number: 001865-07 (registered Apr 1907 > Volume: A Page: 276 > > -----Original Message----- > From: ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of bill.stratton@ns.sympatico.ca > Sent: December 6, 2007 8:42 PM > To: ontario@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ONTARIO] Re Home Children > > The problem is my Grandfather Llewellyn Lyndsie Stretton Stratton claims > that he was born in Malta 29 February 1880 of British Parents. > > My father's second name was Frederick meaning son of and granddad was named > Frederick when he was baptized according to my father's Services records > When he was married in Toronto in 1916 he was an widower to who I have no > idea when he married my grandmother > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ONTARIO list administrator, send an email to > ONTARIO-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ONTARIO mailing list, send an email to > ONTARIO@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ONTARIO Digest, Vol 2, Issue 447 > *************************************** > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ONTARIO list administrator, send an email to > ONTARIO-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ONTARIO mailing list, send an email to ONTARIO@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ONTARIO Digest, Vol 2, Issue 448 > ***************************************

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Many people have been talking about ways to prevent this sort of mess from happening. One of the common things agreed upon was the lack of official communication between the various historical boards and societies and the world of genealogists. See: http://www.achannel.ca/london/news_51255.aspx Apparently there is no national group to co-ordinate info between the hundreds of local societies and hundreds of thousands of researchers. So anything that happens, happens before any real large scale effort is available to correct the mess. I've been writing to Gordon A WATTS who fought the good fight and won us the right to see the 1911 Census of Canada. He wrote a similar article in his Gazette (Just before all this broke) Hopefully Gordon will reply soon and perhaps I can convince Rootsweb to let me set up a mailing list just for this purpose. Nelson Denton Admin of many lists and general big mouth As well as being a pain in the @$%^ to many who would destroy our heritage :-))) ********************************** http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/gazgw/gazgw-0104.htm Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC ************ Time for a Canada-wide Genealogy Association? A number of times during our lengthy campaign to regain public access to Post-1901 Census records it was suggested to me that there was a need for a Canada-wide umbrella organization to represent genealogists and family historians, and their various regional societies. The idea being that such an organization could promote issues of common interest, such as the release of Census records, and lobby the government on those issues. It was also suggested that should such an organization come into being, I should be the one to head it up. This was not however, something that I wanted to take on. I felt then, and I feel now, that whoever heads up such an organization should live in the Ottawa area so as to have easier access to those federal politicians we hoped to persuade to our points of view. I live on the West Coast, near Vancouver, and I am not willing to move away from family and friends. I feel also that the leader of such an organization should be more politically astute than I am. Politically speaking, I am essentially a one-issue person - that issue being public access to historic census records. The idea of a Canada-wide umbrella organization for genealogists and family historians is a great one. It is not, however, a new idea. There has been such an organization in the past, i.e. the Canadian Federation of Genealogical and Family History Societies (CFGFHS). For some time I had been aware that such an organization had existed, but until recently was unaware what it had been called. It would seem however, that even though it existed, it barely got off the ground before it folded. According to it's website (formed in 1998) there were only 12 member societies, and the last update to the website was 26 October 1998 -- a point in time when our Census campaign was just barely getting started. There was a link on the website to the Post-1901 Census Project website, but little else. In viewing the website it would seem that it had been set up simply as a central point for exchange of information between member societies. There was no indication that it was intended to be a voice to speak on behalf of those societies. Recent attempts to contact anyone connected to the CFGFHS met with failure. Apparently, it was legally wound up some time in late 2005 or early 2006, with whatever assets there were being distributed among the few participating groups. In 1998 the formation of the CFGFHS may have been an idea whose time had yet to come. At that time they may have had no idea of the potential communication power of the Internet, and email, for a network of like-minded societies. Our Census campaign however, demonstrated that power beyond doubt. It has recently been suggested that perhaps the time has now come to bring together Canada's genealogists and family historians in an organization able to speak to concerns of a Canada-wide scope. It has been further suggested that such an organization might be set up as an affiliated committee of the Canadian Historical Association (CHA). The CHA is a well-established and respected organization that since 1922 has represented the interests of historians and the heritage community to government, archive, granting and other agencies. On Friday 16 November 2007, John D. Reid of the British Isles Family History Society of Greater Ottawa (BIFHSGO) attended a CHA Council meeting to put forth the idea of putting together an organization of genealogists and family historians that would be affiliated to the CHA. I am advised that a number of CHA Council members have responded positively to this suggestion, and that John received a sympathetic hearing when meeting with the Council. I personally think the idea of a Canada-wide organization for genealogists is a good idea, and one whose time has perhaps come at last. I think that if it were put forth as an offshoot of an established organization such as the CHA it would have a good chance at success. Putting such an idea forth however, and having it acted upon are two far different things. Before anything can be done to form such an association representing the interests of genealogical and family history groups there is much work to be done, and many questions that need to be answered. Not the least of these questions is whether or not the proposed membership of such an organization, i.e. provincial and regional genealogy and family history societies, and individuals, would be interested in joining it. With that in mind, I would like to hear from individuals and representatives of the various genealogy and family history societies from across Canada. I would like to know your thoughts regarding the possible formation of an association intended to support, educate and speak out regarding Canada-wide concerns of genealogists and family historians. Would you, or the society you belong to, be likely to participate in such a venture? If so, what subjects and/or issues would you suggest such an organization consider supporting? An association such as that being suggested cannot exist without people to run it. What kind of administrative structure would you or your society find most useful? What kind of staff would you consider necessary to achieve the goals of genealogists and family historians, i.e. volunteer, part-time paid, or ????? Finally, and perhaps the most important consideration - what financial resources would you, as an individual, or as a member of a group, be willing to contribute to sustain a Canada-wide association of genealogists and family historians. This would likely be in the form of an annual membership for individuals and/or groups. Send me your thoughts on this. Click here to send me an e-mail with a subject line of 'Canada-wide Association of Genealogists'. ****************

Good Evening All Firstly thank you to those listers who helped me out with my Sarah HANSON query today. Secondly I am wondering if the burial records for the Medina Baptist Cemetery, Brantford might be online somewhere. I have had a quick look using Google but haven't been terribly successful. Thank you. Anne Hanson No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.17/1177 - Release Date: 7/12/2007 1:11 PM

Hello fellow listers I am searching my family history and have found that one of my grandfathers sisters came to Canada with mom and when here got married to a Mr. Richard William Stewart of Toronto Center. Thery were married on July 12, 1911 in York, county of York. Richard William Stewart b. about 1890 in Canada ? Ada Llewelyn b. about 1892 in Middlesex, England. Richard's parents were - Richard William Stewart - Annie Stewart (nee McCloskey) Ada's birth father was- Robert Henry Rolfe (died 1891) adopted father- William E. Llewelyn mother- Annie Llewelyn (nee Rolfe) (nee Winfield.) Would anyone have these people in their family tree. If you do would you please get in touch as we would love to hear from you and for you to get to know some more of your relatives. Also to trade info and pics if possible. Sharon from NS, Canada

Hi Bonnie: When looking at year of birth on the Census remember that the question asked was "how old were you on your last birthday", which often translated to a different year on the form than in actual fact.... (apart from some enumerators having math difficulties). Cheers! Doreen =============== > From: Trunthsams@aol.com > Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 11:09:30 -0500 > To: Ontario-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ONTARIO] don't believe the census > > George Roe was born in 1909 not 1910 as on the census. So that lookup has > been found. > > Family lore is that the father of David/Daniel and George went to the US and > not Saskatchewan. I know that is not true because the father died in Copper > Cliff. So it must be the sons of George (Sr) Daniel/David and George Roe > born 1908 and 1909. > > Not that pinning down a George and Daniel Roe will be easy but maybe they > are on the 1930 US census. > > Back to being a puzzle! > > Bonnie > > > > **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest > products. > (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) > > *********** > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon! http://puzzles.sympatico.msn.ca/chicktionary/index.html?icid=htmlsig

Sharon, Many many thanks for your offer of help. Another lister Joan so kindly sent me heaps of information which relate to Sarah HANSON and Sarah would you believe married a Mark ARMSTRONG in Victoria, Australia in 1856. I just never thought (even though I live in Victoria) because another family member who wrote a Hanson family history said that Sarah left for Canada sometime after 1851 and was married there but had no other details except for the 7 daughters. Just goes to show that one should never believe everything they read. So thank you for your offer and I'll be in touch if anything else comes to mind. Regards Anne Hanson -----Original Message----- From: ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of sharon macvicar Sent: Saturday, 8 December 2007 2:21 PM To: ontario@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] Sarah HANSON Hello Anne My name is Sharon and I live in Canada. When I wanted to get the marriage info of my grandmother and grandfather I sent away for the micro film and printed off the copy of the marriage pappers. I could get the micro film and get copies of Sarah's if you would like. If and when I find them I will let you know and you can then give me your address and I will send them to you. It being close to Xmas I dont know how long they will take to get here but will do my best for you. If someone else gets them for you let me know or if you need anything else and if I can help I will. Who I am looking for is "Sarah Hanson" right. You say She was on the 1851 census and that is for the UK is it. So I would only need to check in 1857-1922. Will let you know when I get something. Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Hanson" <ahanson8@bigpond.com> To: <ontario@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 10:00 PM Subject: [ONTARIO] Sarah HANSON > Good Afternoon, > > I am new to this list and I am looking for a Sarah HANSON (born to James & > Sarah HANSON nee ATKINSON at Appleby in 1836.) The family story is that > she > went to Canada, married (to whom not known) and had seven daughters (names > unknown). In the 1851 UK census she is living at Drybeck with her parents. > However she does not appear on the 1861 census. She left England circa > 1856 > and was still alive in 1870. > > On Ancestry there several marriage listings for a Sarah HANSON, they > being: > > 1830-1856 Ontario Marriage Notices - 3 entries > 1857-1922 Ontario Marriages - 3 entries > > While I am an Ancestry member my membership does not include Canada. > > If there is someone on the list who could get access to these entries I > would be most grateful. > > Thank you. > > Anne Hanson > Beechworth, Australia > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.17/1177 - Release Date: > 7/12/2007 > 1:11 PM > > > *********** > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.17/1176 - Release Date: > 12/6/2007 11:15 PM > > *********** Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.17/1177 - Release Date: 7/12/2007 1:11 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.17/1177 - Release Date: 7/12/2007 1:11 PM

Marg, Thanks for your efforts. >From the work of another lister I now believe that my Sarah HANSON married a Mark ARMSTRONG who was also English. I am now about to see if I can find there marriage in England on the IGI. Regards Anne Hanson -----Original Message----- From: ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Marg McFarlane Sent: Saturday, 8 December 2007 4:39 PM To: ontario@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] Sarah HANSON Hi Anne: I didn't find any entries on the 1830 - 1856 marriage notices for a Sarah Hanson/Hansen. Perhaps you could copy and paste the index entries that you found on Ancestry into an email and I will take a look. Were dates and places included in the entries? Re the 1857 - 1922 (now to 1924) Ontario marriages, I won't bother sending you more info on each of these Sarah Hanson marriages as none of the Sarah's were born in England. Also, two of the marriages that you found for this time period were actually one marriage, just entered two different ways on Ancestry, leaving a total of 2 marriages for a Sarah Hanson. So the 2 marriages were: Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924 Name: Sarah Hanson Birth Place: McNab Twp Age: 43 Estimated birth year: abt 1857 Father Name: Wm Hanson Mother Name: Ann Barrie Spouse Name: Samuel Smith Spouse's Age: 53 Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Spouse Birth Place: CO Antrim Spouse Father Name: Geo. Smith Spouse Mother Name: Elizabeth Kennedy Marriage Date: 28 Jun 1900 Marriage Place: Renfrew Marriage County: Renfrew Family History Library Microfilm: MS932_102 Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924 Name: Sarah Hanson Birth Place: Iceland Age: 29 Estimated birth year: abt 1859 Father Name: Segfns Hanson Mother Name: Runa Hanson Spouse Name: John Martin Spouse's Age: 29 Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Spouse Birth Place: Chaltam Ontario Spouse Father Name: Thomas Martin Spouse Mother Name: Sarah Martin Marriage Date: 19 Nov 1888 Marriage Place: Rainy River District Marriage County: Rainy River Family History Library Microfilm: MS932_59 I also checked Ontario births where the mother was a Sarah Hanson and found: Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1909 County of Renfrew, Division of Admaston Name: Mary Alberta Graham Date of Birth: 11 Mar 1876 Gender: Female Birth County: Renfrew Father's name: James Graham, laborer Mother's name: Sarah Hanson Roll Number: MS929_25 Reg. #027367 I couldn't find the above Graham family on the 1881 Ontario census but perhaps you will have better luck. www.familysearch.org Marg in Sunny Alberta Anne Hanson wrote: >Good Afternoon, > >I am new to this list and I am looking for a Sarah HANSON (born to James & >Sarah HANSON nee ATKINSON at Appleby in 1836.) The family story is that she >went to Canada, married (to whom not known) and had seven daughters (names >unknown). In the 1851 UK census she is living at Drybeck with her parents. >However she does not appear on the 1861 census. She left England circa 1856 >and was still alive in 1870. > >On Ancestry there several marriage listings for a Sarah HANSON, they being: > >1830-1856 Ontario Marriage Notices - 3 entries >1857-1922 Ontario Marriages - 3 entries > >While I am an Ancestry member my membership does not include Canada. > >If there is someone on the list who could get access to these entries I >would be most grateful. > >Thank you. > >Anne Hanson >Beechworth, Australia > > >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.17/1177 - Release Date: 7/12/2007 >1:11 PM > > >*********** >Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >__________ NOD32 2711 (20071207) Information __________ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.eset.com > > > > > *********** Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.17/1177 - Release Date: 7/12/2007 1:11 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.17/1177 - Release Date: 7/12/2007 1:11 PM

Joan, Thank you so very much as I am convinced that the Sarah ARMSTRONG nee HANSON that you mention below is my Sarah. It is the death certificate that convinces me its her. I am very grateful and if you ever need any Australian look ups I have heaps of resources and would be very happy to help out. Regards Anne -----Original Message----- From: Joan Hunter [mailto:jhunter@xplornet.com] Sent: Saturday, 8 December 2007 5:08 PM To: ontario@rootsweb.com; 'Anne Hanson' Subject: RE: [ONTARIO] Sarah HANSON Hi, Anne, A search of marriages of people whose mother was Sarah Hanson turned up the following: Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924 Name: Ettie Bramwell Armstrong Birth Place: Brantford Tp Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Father Name: Mark Armstrong Mother Name: Sarah Hanson Spouse Name: Albert J Saunders Spouse's Age: 24 Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Spouse Birth Place: Platteville Spouse Father Name: James Saunders Spouse Mother Name: Eliza Beer Marriage Date: 28 Jan 1891 Marriage Place: Brant Marriage County: Brant Family History Library Microfilm: MS932_70 Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924 Name: Lizzie M Armstrong Birth Place: Brantford Township Age: 31 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Father Name: Mark Armstrong Mother Name: Sarah Hanson Spouse Name: William Orr Spouse's Age: 38 Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Spouse Birth Place: Welland CO Ont Spouse Father Name: Matthew Orr Spouse Mother Name: Margarette Allan Marriage Date: 24 Jun 1891 Marriage Place: Brant Marriage County: Brant Family History Library Microfilm: MS932_70 Then finding Sarah Armstrong's death showed: Brantford, Brant Co., Ontario Armstrong, Sarah Sex: Female Age: 78 years Date of Death: Mch 20, 1915 Place of Birth: England Place of Death: 62 Palmerston Ave. Name of Father: James Hanson Name of Mother: Sarah Atchinson Name of Informant: H. S. Service Cause of Death: Pyl??? Obstruction > Exhaustion Reg. #097758 I couldn't find a marriage for Mark Armstrong & Sarah Hanson...perhaps they married before 1857. They show up on the 1881 census (from familysearch.org - Census): Household: Name Marital Status Gender Ethnic Origin Age Birthplace Occupation Religion Mark ARMSTRONG M Male English 48 England Farmer Baptist Sarah ARMSTRONG M Female English 44 England Baptist Mary J ARMSTRONG Female English 24 O <Ontario> Dress Maker Baptist Sarah ARMSTRONG Female English 22 O <Ontario> Baptist Elizebeth ARMSTRONG Female English 21 O <Ontario> Dress Maker Baptist Margret ARMSTRONG Female English 18 O <Ontario> Baptist Esther ARMSTRONG Female English 16 O <Ontario> Baptist Adeline ARMSTRONG Female English 11 O <Ontario> Baptist Annie ARMSTRONG Female English 9 O <Ontario> Baptist Ellen ARMSTRONG Female English 7 O <Ontario> Baptist Frank CLARK Male English 14 England Source Information: Census Place Brantford East, Brant North, Ontario Family History Library Film 1375900 NA Film Number C-13264 District 160 Sub-district A Division 2 Page Number 42 Household Number 180 Mark Armstrong died 1883 (I can send the death image if you want). There is a Sarah Armstrong, age 69, b. 8 Jul 1832, widowed in the 1901 census in Paris, Brant Co., but not sure at all she's yours. But this is her in 1911: 1911 Census of Canada Name: Sarah Armstrong Gender: Female Marital Status: Widowed Age: 75 Birth Date: Jun 1836 Birthplace: England Family Number: 88 Relation to Head of House: Mother-in-law Immigration Year: 1856 Tribal: English Province: Ontario District: Brantford District Number: 57 Sub-District: Ward 2 Sub-District Number: 17 Place of Habitation: 198 Brant Ave Census Year: 1911 Page: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Phillip Truss 40 Addie Truss 41 Hellen Doris Truss 12 Thomas Cecil Truss 11 Francis Truss 8 Sarah Armstrong 75 The Brant Co. GenWeb has some interesting information on this family: Warner and Beers History of Brant County 1883 Part of Page 552 MARK ARMSTRONG, deceased. This gentleman was a brother to Thomas Armstrong, whose sketch appears in this work. Mark was born in the north of England in 1832, but when ten years of age his parents moved to the County of Brant, Ontario, where he reached maturity. From 1852 to 1856 he, with his brother Thomas, was in Australia digging gold, but since the last date mentioned, he was a resident, and land-owner of seventy-seven acres in Lot 19, first concession, in the Township of Brantford, until his death. Here he devoted his time to its cultivation. His wife, Sarah, daughter of James Hanson, of Westmoreland, England, was born in 1836, and they were married in Melbourne, Australia, in 1856. They have had nine children, of whom eight daughters still survive. Mr. and Mrs. Armstrong belong to the Baptist Church. Mr. Armstrong died on Monday, the 12th of March, 1883, of pneumonia, after a short illness. He was scarcely past the prime of life, but recently entered upon his fifty-second year. THOMAS ARMSTRONG, farmer, Paris, P.O., is a grandson of Thomas Armstrong, who was of Scotch Parentage, and was born near Carlisle. He was raised and spent almost his entire life in the north of England. His occupation was farming. Of his ten children, Mark, the father of our subject, was the youngest and was born on St. Mark's Day, in April, 1799. He matured to farm life, but after his marriage, engaged in mining, which he followed until 1842, when he, his wife and eight children, started for Canada; while on the vessel one child died and seven reached the new home in the Township of Nelson, Ontario. In September of the same year he came to Paris, where he became the counsellor of Coleman, Curtis & Capron, owners of the plaster beds, as to the best methods of procuring the material. He had previously been unearthing it, but his knowledge of mining enabled him to mine it out, which was very satisfactory to the proprietors. In `847 he bought land in South Dumfries, but finally he settled near Mount Pleasant, where he died January 13, 1883. On coming to Canada he endured many privations and hardships in clearing up his two farms, although he was a stout hearty man. He buried his wife in 1865; she left a family of seven children, six of whom are now living. Thomas is the second eldest son, and was born in the north of England in 1827, but since the age of fifteen years he has resided in the County of Brant, near Paris, where he owns a good farm of 170 acres, which he cultivates. He married Margaret, daughter of Richard Sanderson; she was born in the County of Brant, and is now the mother of eight children, seven of whom are living. Mr. and Mrs. Armstrong spent from 1852 to 1886 in Australia digging gold, with favourable results. Page 552 (note: this may well be a cousin on Sarah) WILLIAM ATKINSON, farmer, Brantford Township, a native of Westmorelandshire, England, was born October 4th, 1835, and came to Canada in 1846 and located in Brant County, He was a son of Thomas and grandson of Edmund Atkinson, the former of whom settled in this county about 1846, where he died in 1854. Thomas married Eleanor Whitehead, and had eleven children, of whom George, Thomas, William and Robert are living; and Maria, Margaret, Mary Anne, Edmund, Isabella, Eleanor and Richard are dead. William, of whom this biography is written, married June 8th, 1858, Sarah Bellhouse, daughter of John Bellhouse, granddaughter of Thomas Rycroft, who came to this country in May, 1840 and established himself in the county. Their marriage resulted in nine children, viz., Margaret Ann, born April 12th, 1860; Sarah E., born Aug. 25th, 1861; William H., born Dec. 23rd, 1864; Charles E., born Sept. 29th, 1866; Nellie, born Sept. 17th, 1868; Hannah, born Dec. 6th, 1870; Grace, born Feb. 13th, 1873; John T., born June 1st, 1875; Maud M., born Feb. 19th, 1877. The family are members of the Church of England. Mr. Atkinson owns a farm of 62 acres of excellent land, six miles south of the City of Brantford, and is comfortable and well-to-do. Lots of info...hope it helps. Joan Hunter Essex, Ontario P.S. let me know if you want the census & death images -----Original Message----- From: ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Anne Hanson Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 9:00 PM To: ontario@rootsweb.com Subject: [ONTARIO] Sarah HANSON Good Afternoon, I am new to this list and I am looking for a Sarah HANSON (born to James & Sarah HANSON nee ATKINSON at Appleby in 1836.) The family story is that she went to Canada, married (to whom not known) and had seven daughters (names unknown). In the 1851 UK census she is living at Drybeck with her parents. However she does not appear on the 1861 census. She left England circa 1856 and was still alive in 1870. On Ancestry there several marriage listings for a Sarah HANSON, they being: 1830-1856 Ontario Marriage Notices - 3 entries 1857-1922 Ontario Marriages - 3 entries While I am an Ancestry member my membership does not include Canada. If there is someone on the list who could get access to these entries I would be most grateful. Thank you. Anne Hanson Beechworth, Australia No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.17/1177 - Release Date: 12/7/2007 1:11 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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