Hi Brian You never know what you are going to find in a newspaper. Way back before I started transcribing I found an 1848 death notice in a Dumfries (Scotland) newspaper which gave my ggg-grandmother's home as "in Genoch" in Balmaghie parish. Her son (who was a Registrar) said he was born in Erngennoch in Balmaghie parish. It was more than a year before I realized they were one and the same place! And, considering Dumfries was a good 20 miles away I've always wondered how they got the information, complete with the error, to the newspaper office. /cheers Pat -----Original Message----- From: ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Brian Gilchrist Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 6:02 PM To: ontario@rootsweb.com Subject: [ONTARIO] Essequibo versus Esquesing Hi Pat ... Esquesing is one of "my" areas, and never seen it as Essequibo. Snce this notice was printed in a newspaper, I am willing to go 50 / 50 odds on this one really being in Guyana. This problem is fun ... so let's keep plugging away to see if anyone can find THE answer ... Onwards! Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Jeffs" <pat.jeffs@dsl.pipex.com> To: <ontario@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] Goring and Leys families > This is an Ontario marriage. Essequibo is a poor reading of Esquesing, > surely. > > /cheers > > Pat > > -----Original Message----- > From: ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Brian Gilchrist > Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 4:27 PM > To: Steve Marshall; ontario@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ONTARIO] Goring and Leys families > > Ok, Essequibo is a Town (and a river) in British Guyana, South America, so > we are dealing with non-average British people here. I could not find > another Essequibo. I cannot help but wonder what connection if any this > family might have to the famous Dr. Charles Goring, born circa 1870, noted > Medical Officer for Her Majesty's Prisons. > > Secondly, continuing breakdown the abbreviations ... L.A.H. (instead of > L.A.K. which could have been a printing error) is the post-nominal > "Licentiate of Apothecaries Hall" being part of The Worshipful Society of > Apothecaries of London - which would make sense as well. > > Working with Pat's suggestions it could also be a "King's College" > connection. > > I wonder what any Ley's family history notes might have to say about this > daughter of Francis??? > > Any one know anything about the descendants of Francis Leys of Pickering? > > Cheers! > J. Brian Gilchrist > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Steve Marshall > To: 'Brian Gilchrist' > Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 10:13 AM > Subject: RE: MRSCSLAKC > > > Hi Brian - I am transcribing the Markham Economist newspaper for the York > Region OGS newsletter and came across this marriage: > > > > 9 Aug.1860 > > On 9 June, at Essequibo, Charles GORING Jr., M.R.C.S.L.A.K.C. to Rachael, > fourth daughter of the late Francis LEYS, Esquire, of Pickering. > > > > I'd like to qualify for the readers what it stands for. M.R.C.S. does > seem to be the Royal College of Surgeons in London. > > > > BTW - saw you on the Scott Thompson episode of "Who Do You Think You > Are?" > - well done. Someday I have to get to the Peel Co Archives to find traces > of my Etobicoke ancestors! > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > From: Brian Gilchrist [mailto:gilchrists@idirect.com] > Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 10:05 AM > To: ontario@rootsweb.com; smarshall2071@rogers.com > Subject: MRSCSLAKC > > > > Hey Steve: Can you let me know who is it, and the citation so I can take > a > look please. The K.C. could refer to "King's Counsel" if he was appointed > during the pre Victorian period. It does not apply to "Knights of > Columbus" > as they were not founded until the 1880's. > > > > Cheers! > > Brian > > > > > > *********** > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > *********** > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *********** Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am looking for the details of this birth, in the great hopes that Mary's middle name might be Pagan, for her grandmother. That would be a useful link. Thanks for any help Peggy Gordon

Thanks Ellen...would appreciate that very much... I've been meaning to get back to you on the book. I wanted to wait until after the Christmas mailing rush so opted to send the book out next week. Do not have a Postage cost but will trade that for the look-up for obituary. Book is $26.45 includes GST. Scott -----Original Message----- From: ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ellen Murray Sent: January-05-08 8:27 PM To: ontario@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] Thorne in Cornwall need help Scott am going to Library tomorrow will be happy to search Pages of the Past for an obit for Beatrice Ellen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Shipman" <shipwreck@surenet.net> To: <ontario@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] Thorne in Cornwall need help > Thank you Marg....I was indeed looking in the wrong place. Not much > family > information to go on so I was looking for Beatrice in Cornwall, London. > > This is great...thank you very much for this. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Marg McFarlane > Sent: January-05-08 12:47 PM > To: ontario@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] Thorne in Cornwall need help > > Hi: > > I assume you mean she was born in Cornwall, England, not Cornwall, > Stormont County, Ontario? > > Handwriting very difficult to read: > > Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924 > > Name: Beatrice Thorne, spinster, Brethren Church > Birth Place: Wadebordy or Wadenbrige>???, Eng > Age: 28 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 > Father Name: Walter Thorne > Mother Name: Ellen Box or Post?? > Spouse Name: Frederick Setchell, bachelor, Brethren church > Spouse's Age: 28 > Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 > Spouse Birth Place: Sharon PA USA > Spouse Father Name: Jas Setchell > Spouse Mother Name: Annie Cavanagh > Marriage Date: 23 Jul 1907 > Marriage Place: Algoma District > Marriage County: Algoma > Family History Library Microfilm: MS940_12 Reg. #Second page is not in > order behind this first one. Go to your local LDS family history centre > to search for this second page. > > 1901 and 1911 Canada census index www.automatedgenealogy.com > > Marg > > Scott Shipman wrote: > >>Hi >> >> >> >>I am wondering if someone might help me with the following name. I have a >>Great Grandmother Beatrice Mary Thorne born in about 1879 in Cornwall >>Ontario. She married a gentleman born in the States by the name of Fred >>Tremain Setchell...who is believed to be buried in Chicago. >> >> >> >>Would like to learn more about Beatrice and her family if they appear in >>1881 Census or 1891 Census. Marriage of Thorne to Setchell...could be >>variances here Satchell Setchel Satchal. >> >> >> >>Beatrice died about 1937 in Toronto...obituary would be great. I spent >>about 4 hours the other day going through Census records and such with no >>luck. So if there is anyone on this list that has these interests or can >>help me with any of this it would be appreciated. >> >> >> >>Fred by the way was from an American family that may have been quite high > up >>in the American Slave trade...not real happy about this part but that is > the >>way it was. >> >> >> >>Thanks >> >> >> >>Scott >> >> >>*********** >>Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >> >>__________ NOD32 2759 (20080101) Information __________ >> >>This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >>http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> >> > > *********** > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > *********** > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1210 - Release Date: > 01/05/2008 11:46 AM > > *********** Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I have the date of this marriage as June 24, 1853 unverified. I feel that it took place in Puslinch , as that seems to be where Mary was living and where some of the children were born. The first ones were born in Waterloo, with the very first being Francis on Apr 29, 1856. The details of this marriage, specifically the parents of each person, would be very helpful to my research. Thank you Peggy Gordon

Scott am going to Library tomorrow will be happy to search Pages of the Past for an obit for Beatrice Ellen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Shipman" <shipwreck@surenet.net> To: <ontario@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] Thorne in Cornwall need help > Thank you Marg....I was indeed looking in the wrong place. Not much > family > information to go on so I was looking for Beatrice in Cornwall, London. > > This is great...thank you very much for this. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Marg McFarlane > Sent: January-05-08 12:47 PM > To: ontario@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] Thorne in Cornwall need help > > Hi: > > I assume you mean she was born in Cornwall, England, not Cornwall, > Stormont County, Ontario? > > Handwriting very difficult to read: > > Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924 > > Name: Beatrice Thorne, spinster, Brethren Church > Birth Place: Wadebordy or Wadenbrige>???, Eng > Age: 28 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 > Father Name: Walter Thorne > Mother Name: Ellen Box or Post?? > Spouse Name: Frederick Setchell, bachelor, Brethren church > Spouse's Age: 28 > Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 > Spouse Birth Place: Sharon PA USA > Spouse Father Name: Jas Setchell > Spouse Mother Name: Annie Cavanagh > Marriage Date: 23 Jul 1907 > Marriage Place: Algoma District > Marriage County: Algoma > Family History Library Microfilm: MS940_12 Reg. #Second page is not in > order behind this first one. Go to your local LDS family history centre > to search for this second page. > > 1901 and 1911 Canada census index www.automatedgenealogy.com > > Marg > > Scott Shipman wrote: > >>Hi >> >> >> >>I am wondering if someone might help me with the following name. I have a >>Great Grandmother Beatrice Mary Thorne born in about 1879 in Cornwall >>Ontario. She married a gentleman born in the States by the name of Fred >>Tremain Setchell...who is believed to be buried in Chicago. >> >> >> >>Would like to learn more about Beatrice and her family if they appear in >>1881 Census or 1891 Census. Marriage of Thorne to Setchell...could be >>variances here Satchell Setchel Satchal. >> >> >> >>Beatrice died about 1937 in Toronto...obituary would be great. I spent >>about 4 hours the other day going through Census records and such with no >>luck. So if there is anyone on this list that has these interests or can >>help me with any of this it would be appreciated. >> >> >> >>Fred by the way was from an American family that may have been quite high > up >>in the American Slave trade...not real happy about this part but that is > the >>way it was. >> >> >> >>Thanks >> >> >> >>Scott >> >> >>*********** >>Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >> >>__________ NOD32 2759 (20080101) Information __________ >> >>This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >>http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> >> > > *********** > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > *********** > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1210 - Release Date: > 01/05/2008 11:46 AM > >

Also thank you to Jackie...so great to have this information. Perhaps I might be able to learn more with all of this now. Scott -----Original Message----- From: ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jackie Serna Sent: January-05-08 1:09 PM To: ontario@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] Thorne in Cornwall need help in addition 1881 census Walter THORNE Head M Male 37 Bideford Horse Trainer Ellen THORNE Wife M Female 34 Tintagel, Cornwall, England William THORNE Son U Male 10 Egloshayle, Cornwall, England Scholar Phillippa THORNE Dau Female 9 Egloshayle, Cornwall, England Scholar Ellen THORNE Dau Female 7 Egloshayle, Cornwall, England Scholar Emma L. THORNE Dau Female 5 Egloshayle, Cornwall, England Mary B. THORNE Dau Female 2 Egloshayle, Cornwall, England Source Information: Dwelling Bale Census Place Egloshayle, Cornwall, England Family History Library Film 1341550 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2293 / 109 Page Number 18 and 1891 Name: Beatrice Thorne Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Walter Mother's Name: Ellen Gender: Female Where born: Wadebridge, Cornwall, England Civil Parish: Egloshayle Town: Bodieve County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Street address: Occupation: Registration district: Bodmin Sub-registration district: Egloshayle ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Household Members: Name Age Beatrice Thorne 12 Bessie Thorne 9 Ellen Thorne 44 Walter Thorne 50 William Thorne 21 and her birth Name: Mary Beatrice Thorne Year of Registration: 1879 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Bodmin County: Cornwall Volume: 5c Page: 85 Jackie Marg McFarlane wrote: >Hi: > >I assume you mean she was born in Cornwall, England, not Cornwall, >Stormont County, Ontario? > >Handwriting very difficult to read: > >Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924 > >Name: Beatrice Thorne, spinster, Brethren Church >Birth Place: Wadebordy or Wadenbrige>???, Eng >Age: 28 >Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 >Father Name: Walter Thorne >Mother Name: Ellen Box or Post?? >Spouse Name: Frederick Setchell, bachelor, Brethren church >Spouse's Age: 28 >Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 >Spouse Birth Place: Sharon PA USA >Spouse Father Name: Jas Setchell >Spouse Mother Name: Annie Cavanagh >Marriage Date: 23 Jul 1907 >Marriage Place: Algoma District >Marriage County: Algoma >Family History Library Microfilm: MS940_12 Reg. #Second page is not in >order behind this first one. Go to your local LDS family history centre >to search for this second page. > >1901 and 1911 Canada census index www.automatedgenealogy.com > >Marg > >Scott Shipman wrote: > > > >>Hi >> >> >> >>I am wondering if someone might help me with the following name. I have a >>Great Grandmother Beatrice Mary Thorne born in about 1879 in Cornwall >>Ontario. She married a gentleman born in the States by the name of Fred >>Tremain Setchell...who is believed to be buried in Chicago. >> >> >> >>Would like to learn more about Beatrice and her family if they appear in >>1881 Census or 1891 Census. Marriage of Thorne to Setchell...could be >>variances here Satchell Setchel Satchal. >> >> >> >>Beatrice died about 1937 in Toronto...obituary would be great. I spent >>about 4 hours the other day going through Census records and such with no >>luck. So if there is anyone on this list that has these interests or can >>help me with any of this it would be appreciated. >> >> >> >>Fred by the way was from an American family that may have been quite high up >>in the American Slave trade...not real happy about this part but that is the >>way it was. >> >> >> >>Thanks >> >> >> >>Scott >> >> >>*********** >>Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >>__________ NOD32 2759 (20080101) Information __________ >> >>This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >>http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >*********** >Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > *********** Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Marg....I was indeed looking in the wrong place. Not much family information to go on so I was looking for Beatrice in Cornwall, London. This is great...thank you very much for this. -----Original Message----- From: ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Marg McFarlane Sent: January-05-08 12:47 PM To: ontario@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] Thorne in Cornwall need help Hi: I assume you mean she was born in Cornwall, England, not Cornwall, Stormont County, Ontario? Handwriting very difficult to read: Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924 Name: Beatrice Thorne, spinster, Brethren Church Birth Place: Wadebordy or Wadenbrige>???, Eng Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 Father Name: Walter Thorne Mother Name: Ellen Box or Post?? Spouse Name: Frederick Setchell, bachelor, Brethren church Spouse's Age: 28 Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 Spouse Birth Place: Sharon PA USA Spouse Father Name: Jas Setchell Spouse Mother Name: Annie Cavanagh Marriage Date: 23 Jul 1907 Marriage Place: Algoma District Marriage County: Algoma Family History Library Microfilm: MS940_12 Reg. #Second page is not in order behind this first one. Go to your local LDS family history centre to search for this second page. 1901 and 1911 Canada census index www.automatedgenealogy.com Marg Scott Shipman wrote: >Hi > > > >I am wondering if someone might help me with the following name. I have a >Great Grandmother Beatrice Mary Thorne born in about 1879 in Cornwall >Ontario. She married a gentleman born in the States by the name of Fred >Tremain Setchell...who is believed to be buried in Chicago. > > > >Would like to learn more about Beatrice and her family if they appear in >1881 Census or 1891 Census. Marriage of Thorne to Setchell...could be >variances here Satchell Setchel Satchal. > > > >Beatrice died about 1937 in Toronto...obituary would be great. I spent >about 4 hours the other day going through Census records and such with no >luck. So if there is anyone on this list that has these interests or can >help me with any of this it would be appreciated. > > > >Fred by the way was from an American family that may have been quite high up >in the American Slave trade...not real happy about this part but that is the >way it was. > > > >Thanks > > > >Scott > > >*********** >Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >__________ NOD32 2759 (20080101) Information __________ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.eset.com > > > > > *********** Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Lois: According to a posting on Rootsweb, New Castle was in New Brunswick, not Ontario, so you likely should join and post to that list re the marriage, if it took place there. Here is the entry on Rootsweb: From: "Barbara Ramb" <Barbara4446@msn.com> Subject: [CAN-NB-NORTHUMBERLAND-L] Calvin Sisco Powers Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 21:28:29 -0500 SEEKING INFO ON CALVIN SISCO ( MAY BE CISCO) POWERS BORN IN NEW CASTLE, NEW BRUNSWICK, CANADA. He was born 17 Oct 1845 and was the son of Samuel Weatherhead Powers. Believe Calvin Sisco moved to US in 1860. Don't know area or where to begin. Thank you. Note that the above entry was on the Northumberland, New Brunswick List, not Ontario. I didn't find Calvin on the 1851 Canada census so perhaps he had already moved to the US, or the census records for the place in Canada where he was living did not survive, or he is mis-indexed. I found a Samuel Powers in Northumberland, Ontario but his wife is listed as Mary. He was born abt 1799 in England.. Marg in Sunny Alberta Lois Flook wrote: >Hi Listers, > > A friend has asked me to do some research for her. I have very scanty information, but here it is. Looking for the marriage of Calvin Siscoe Powers, born 09 Sep 1826 in Ontario, and married "in the township of Clark in New Castle District, in the Methodist Episcopal Church, on 17 Oct 1845." (Information taken from family notes). Calvin's father was Samuel Weatherhead Powers, and mother was Catherine Sophia Doran. Any help you may provide as to how my friend may obtain this marriage record will be appreciated. Actually, any information on this family would also be extremely helpful. By 1860 the family had moved to the U.S. Calvin is her 3rd ggrandfather. Thanks so much. > Lois Flook at flook1202@yahoo.com > > > >--------------------------------- >Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > >*********** >Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >__________ NOD32 2766 (20080104) Information __________ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.eset.com > > > > >

Not sure if this is the one you are looking for but this is listed at Emmanuel United Church Cemetery in West Gwill. pg 199 Cemetery Inscriptions of Tecumseth and West Gwillimbury CROSS John C. CROSS Nov. 4, 1867 - Feb. 1, 1925 his wife Matilda Adelaide DOWNEY, died Feb 17, 1948, aged 78 yr pg 200 CROSS William James son of John & Adelaide Cross, Jan. 6, 1907 - Sept. 8, 1958 Burial Sanctuary Park, Weston, Ontario. There is also mentions of a Thomas, Jane, Pinkie, Ida Eliza and Isaac Melville Cross in the same Cemetery. If you need anything else just let me know. Regards, Chris N ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Payne" <mpayne@idirect.com> To: <ONTARIO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 1:17 PM Subject: [ONTARIO] Bond Head United Church > Adeline Cross is listed as buried in the cemetery of the Bon Head United > Church West Gwillimbury, Simcoe. > > If someone has information on the birth and death date on the stone I > would > be gratefull for this information. > > Thank you. > > > Judy. > > > *********** > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Wadebridge, Cornwall, England /cheers Pat -----Original Message----- From: ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Marg McFarlane Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 5:47 PM To: ontario@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] Thorne in Cornwall need help Hi: I assume you mean she was born in Cornwall, England, not Cornwall, Stormont County, Ontario? Handwriting very difficult to read: Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924 Name: Beatrice Thorne, spinster, Brethren Church Birth Place: Wadebordy or Wadenbrige>???, Eng Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 Father Name: Walter Thorne Mother Name: Ellen Box or Post?? Spouse Name: Frederick Setchell, bachelor, Brethren church Spouse's Age: 28 Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 Spouse Birth Place: Sharon PA USA Spouse Father Name: Jas Setchell Spouse Mother Name: Annie Cavanagh Marriage Date: 23 Jul 1907 Marriage Place: Algoma District Marriage County: Algoma Family History Library Microfilm: MS940_12 Reg. #Second page is not in order behind this first one. Go to your local LDS family history centre to search for this second page. 1901 and 1911 Canada census index www.automatedgenealogy.com Marg Scott Shipman wrote: >Hi > > > >I am wondering if someone might help me with the following name. I >have a Great Grandmother Beatrice Mary Thorne born in about 1879 in >Cornwall Ontario. She married a gentleman born in the States by the >name of Fred Tremain Setchell...who is believed to be buried in Chicago. > > > >Would like to learn more about Beatrice and her family if they appear >in >1881 Census or 1891 Census. Marriage of Thorne to Setchell...could be >variances here Satchell Setchel Satchal. > > > >Beatrice died about 1937 in Toronto...obituary would be great. I spent >about 4 hours the other day going through Census records and such with >no luck. So if there is anyone on this list that has these interests >or can help me with any of this it would be appreciated. > > > >Fred by the way was from an American family that may have been quite >high up in the American Slave trade...not real happy about this part >but that is the way it was. > > > >Thanks > > > >Scott > > >*********** >Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at >http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >__________ NOD32 2759 (20080101) Information __________ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.eset.com > > > > > *********** Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is an Ontario marriage. Essequibo is a poor reading of Esquesing, surely. /cheers Pat -----Original Message----- From: ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Brian Gilchrist Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 4:27 PM To: Steve Marshall; ontario@rootsweb.com Subject: [ONTARIO] Goring and Leys families Ok, Essequibo is a Town (and a river) in British Guyana, South America, so we are dealing with non-average British people here. I could not find another Essequibo. I cannot help but wonder what connection if any this family might have to the famous Dr. Charles Goring, born circa 1870, noted Medical Officer for Her Majesty's Prisons. Secondly, continuing breakdown the abbreviations ... L.A.H. (instead of L.A.K. which could have been a printing error) is the post-nominal "Licentiate of Apothecaries Hall" being part of The Worshipful Society of Apothecaries of London - which would make sense as well. Working with Pat's suggestions it could also be a "King's College" connection. I wonder what any Ley's family history notes might have to say about this daughter of Francis??? Any one know anything about the descendants of Francis Leys of Pickering? Cheers! J. Brian Gilchrist ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Marshall To: 'Brian Gilchrist' Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 10:13 AM Subject: RE: MRSCSLAKC Hi Brian - I am transcribing the Markham Economist newspaper for the York Region OGS newsletter and came across this marriage: 9 Aug.1860 On 9 June, at Essequibo, Charles GORING Jr., M.R.C.S.L.A.K.C. to Rachael, fourth daughter of the late Francis LEYS, Esquire, of Pickering. I'd like to qualify for the readers what it stands for. M.R.C.S. does seem to be the Royal College of Surgeons in London. BTW - saw you on the Scott Thompson episode of "Who Do You Think You Are?" - well done. Someday I have to get to the Peel Co Archives to find traces of my Etobicoke ancestors! Steve ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- From: Brian Gilchrist [mailto:gilchrists@idirect.com] Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 10:05 AM To: ontario@rootsweb.com; smarshall2071@rogers.com Subject: MRSCSLAKC Hey Steve: Can you let me know who is it, and the citation so I can take a look please. The K.C. could refer to "King's Counsel" if he was appointed during the pre Victorian period. It does not apply to "Knights of Columbus" as they were not founded until the 1880's. Cheers! Brian *********** Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Steve MRCS stands for Member of the Royal College of Surgeons, which fits with medical doctor. LAKC might stand for a university or other teaching institution, possibly "London and King's College"--both of which have medical faculties. I wonder if some of the full stops or periods are actually commas. Today we would arrange this as MRCS(LAKC), with or without the full stops depending on standard usage. There weren't that many British universities to choose from in 1860. Then again, KC on its own also stands for King's Counsel. . . . /cheers Pat -----Original Message----- From: ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Steve Marshall Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 2:05 PM To: ontario@rootsweb.com Subject: [ONTARIO] M.R.C.S.L.A.K.C. - what does it stand for? I found the following initials after the groom's name in a 1860 Ontario marriage - M.R.C.S.L.A.K.C. - the first initial could have been an "H". This was shown after the groom's name much like M.D. (Medical Doctor) or J.P. (Justice of the Peace) would be designated. Anyone know what this means? I've tried searching it on the web and have come up with nothing. Family name was GORING and there is a UK Goring family who were Baronets - does it have any connection to a title? Thanks. Steve Marshall *********** Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Adeline Cross is listed as buried in the cemetery of the Bon Head United Church West Gwillimbury, Simcoe. If someone has information on the birth and death date on the stone I would be gratefull for this information. Thank you. Judy.

in addition 1881 census Walter THORNE Head M Male 37 Bideford Horse Trainer Ellen THORNE Wife M Female 34 Tintagel, Cornwall, England William THORNE Son U Male 10 Egloshayle, Cornwall, England Scholar Phillippa THORNE Dau Female 9 Egloshayle, Cornwall, England Scholar Ellen THORNE Dau Female 7 Egloshayle, Cornwall, England Scholar Emma L. THORNE Dau Female 5 Egloshayle, Cornwall, England Mary B. THORNE Dau Female 2 Egloshayle, Cornwall, England Source Information: Dwelling Bale Census Place Egloshayle, Cornwall, England Family History Library Film 1341550 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2293 / 109 Page Number 18 and 1891 Name: Beatrice Thorne Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Walter Mother's Name: Ellen Gender: Female Where born: Wadebridge, Cornwall, England Civil Parish: Egloshayle Town: Bodieve County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Street address: Occupation: Registration district: Bodmin Sub-registration district: Egloshayle ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Household Members: Name Age Beatrice Thorne 12 Bessie Thorne 9 Ellen Thorne 44 Walter Thorne 50 William Thorne 21 and her birth Name: Mary Beatrice Thorne Year of Registration: 1879 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Bodmin County: Cornwall Volume: 5c Page: 85 Jackie Marg McFarlane wrote: >Hi: > >I assume you mean she was born in Cornwall, England, not Cornwall, >Stormont County, Ontario? > >Handwriting very difficult to read: > >Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924 > >Name: Beatrice Thorne, spinster, Brethren Church >Birth Place: Wadebordy or Wadenbrige>???, Eng >Age: 28 >Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 >Father Name: Walter Thorne >Mother Name: Ellen Box or Post?? >Spouse Name: Frederick Setchell, bachelor, Brethren church >Spouse's Age: 28 >Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 >Spouse Birth Place: Sharon PA USA >Spouse Father Name: Jas Setchell >Spouse Mother Name: Annie Cavanagh >Marriage Date: 23 Jul 1907 >Marriage Place: Algoma District >Marriage County: Algoma >Family History Library Microfilm: MS940_12 Reg. #Second page is not in >order behind this first one. Go to your local LDS family history centre >to search for this second page. > >1901 and 1911 Canada census index www.automatedgenealogy.com > >Marg > >Scott Shipman wrote: > > > >>Hi >> >> >> >>I am wondering if someone might help me with the following name. I have a >>Great Grandmother Beatrice Mary Thorne born in about 1879 in Cornwall >>Ontario. She married a gentleman born in the States by the name of Fred >>Tremain Setchell...who is believed to be buried in Chicago. >> >> >> >>Would like to learn more about Beatrice and her family if they appear in >>1881 Census or 1891 Census. Marriage of Thorne to Setchell...could be >>variances here Satchell Setchel Satchal. >> >> >> >>Beatrice died about 1937 in Toronto...obituary would be great. I spent >>about 4 hours the other day going through Census records and such with no >>luck. So if there is anyone on this list that has these interests or can >>help me with any of this it would be appreciated. >> >> >> >>Fred by the way was from an American family that may have been quite high up >>in the American Slave trade...not real happy about this part but that is the >>way it was. >> >> >> >>Thanks >> >> >> >>Scott >> >> >>*********** >>Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >>__________ NOD32 2759 (20080101) Information __________ >> >>This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >>http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >*********** >Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Hi Pat ... Esquesing is one of "my" areas, and never seen it as Essequibo. Snce this notice was printed in a newspaper, I am willing to go 50 / 50 odds on this one really being in Guyana. This problem is fun ... so let's keep plugging away to see if anyone can find THE answer ... Onwards! Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Jeffs" <pat.jeffs@dsl.pipex.com> To: <ontario@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] Goring and Leys families > This is an Ontario marriage. Essequibo is a poor reading of Esquesing, > surely. > > /cheers > > Pat > > -----Original Message----- > From: ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Brian Gilchrist > Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 4:27 PM > To: Steve Marshall; ontario@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ONTARIO] Goring and Leys families > > Ok, Essequibo is a Town (and a river) in British Guyana, South America, so > we are dealing with non-average British people here. I could not find > another Essequibo. I cannot help but wonder what connection if any this > family might have to the famous Dr. Charles Goring, born circa 1870, noted > Medical Officer for Her Majesty's Prisons. > > Secondly, continuing breakdown the abbreviations ... L.A.H. (instead of > L.A.K. which could have been a printing error) is the post-nominal > "Licentiate of Apothecaries Hall" being part of The Worshipful Society of > Apothecaries of London - which would make sense as well. > > Working with Pat's suggestions it could also be a "King's College" > connection. > > I wonder what any Ley's family history notes might have to say about this > daughter of Francis??? > > Any one know anything about the descendants of Francis Leys of Pickering? > > Cheers! > J. Brian Gilchrist > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Steve Marshall > To: 'Brian Gilchrist' > Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 10:13 AM > Subject: RE: MRSCSLAKC > > > Hi Brian - I am transcribing the Markham Economist newspaper for the York > Region OGS newsletter and came across this marriage: > > > > 9 Aug.1860 > > On 9 June, at Essequibo, Charles GORING Jr., M.R.C.S.L.A.K.C. to Rachael, > fourth daughter of the late Francis LEYS, Esquire, of Pickering. > > > > I'd like to qualify for the readers what it stands for. M.R.C.S. does > seem to be the Royal College of Surgeons in London. > > > > BTW - saw you on the Scott Thompson episode of "Who Do You Think You > Are?" > - well done. Someday I have to get to the Peel Co Archives to find traces > of my Etobicoke ancestors! > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > From: Brian Gilchrist [mailto:gilchrists@idirect.com] > Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 10:05 AM > To: ontario@rootsweb.com; smarshall2071@rogers.com > Subject: MRSCSLAKC > > > > Hey Steve: Can you let me know who is it, and the citation so I can take > a > look please. The K.C. could refer to "King's Counsel" if he was appointed > during the pre Victorian period. It does not apply to "Knights of > Columbus" > as they were not founded until the 1880's. > > > > Cheers! > > Brian > > > > > > *********** > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > *********** > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I had considered the same thing, but that is how it was spelt in the newspaper. -----Original Message----- From: ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Jeffs Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 12:42 PM To: ontario@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] Goring and Leys families This is an Ontario marriage. Essequibo is a poor reading of Esquesing, surely. /cheers Pat -----Original Message----- From: ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Brian Gilchrist Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 4:27 PM To: Steve Marshall; ontario@rootsweb.com Subject: [ONTARIO] Goring and Leys families Ok, Essequibo is a Town (and a river) in British Guyana, South America, so we are dealing with non-average British people here. I could not find another Essequibo. I cannot help but wonder what connection if any this family might have to the famous Dr. Charles Goring, born circa 1870, noted Medical Officer for Her Majesty's Prisons. Secondly, continuing breakdown the abbreviations ... L.A.H. (instead of L.A.K. which could have been a printing error) is the post-nominal "Licentiate of Apothecaries Hall" being part of The Worshipful Society of Apothecaries of London - which would make sense as well. Working with Pat's suggestions it could also be a "King's College" connection. I wonder what any Ley's family history notes might have to say about this daughter of Francis??? Any one know anything about the descendants of Francis Leys of Pickering? Cheers! J. Brian Gilchrist ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Marshall To: 'Brian Gilchrist' Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 10:13 AM Subject: RE: MRSCSLAKC Hi Brian - I am transcribing the Markham Economist newspaper for the York Region OGS newsletter and came across this marriage: 9 Aug.1860 On 9 June, at Essequibo, Charles GORING Jr., M.R.C.S.L.A.K.C. to Rachael, fourth daughter of the late Francis LEYS, Esquire, of Pickering. I'd like to qualify for the readers what it stands for. M.R.C.S. does seem to be the Royal College of Surgeons in London. BTW - saw you on the Scott Thompson episode of "Who Do You Think You Are?" - well done. Someday I have to get to the Peel Co Archives to find traces of my Etobicoke ancestors! Steve ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- From: Brian Gilchrist [mailto:gilchrists@idirect.com] Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 10:05 AM To: ontario@rootsweb.com; smarshall2071@rogers.com Subject: MRSCSLAKC Hey Steve: Can you let me know who is it, and the citation so I can take a look please. The K.C. could refer to "King's Counsel" if he was appointed during the pre Victorian period. It does not apply to "Knights of Columbus" as they were not founded until the 1880's. Cheers! Brian *********** Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *********** Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi I am wondering if someone might help me with the following name. I have a Great Grandmother Beatrice Mary Thorne born in about 1879 in Cornwall Ontario. She married a gentleman born in the States by the name of Fred Tremain Setchell...who is believed to be buried in Chicago. Would like to learn more about Beatrice and her family if they appear in 1881 Census or 1891 Census. Marriage of Thorne to Setchell...could be variances here Satchell Setchel Satchal. Beatrice died about 1937 in Toronto...obituary would be great. I spent about 4 hours the other day going through Census records and such with no luck. So if there is anyone on this list that has these interests or can help me with any of this it would be appreciated. Fred by the way was from an American family that may have been quite high up in the American Slave trade...not real happy about this part but that is the way it was. Thanks Scott

Always interested in the Goring surname. I'm late into this converstation, so I'd like to ask if this name comes from England and/or Francis Goring, immigrated 1776 to Canada? Regards, Joyce Stevens Cc: Judy Lindsay, Land of Oz -----Original Message----- From: ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ontario-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Brian Gilchrist Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 11:27 AM To: Steve Marshall; ontario@rootsweb.com Subject: [ONTARIO] Goring and Leys families Ok, Essequibo is a Town (and a river) in British Guyana, South America, so we are dealing with non-average British people here. I could not find another Essequibo. I cannot help but wonder what connection if any this family might have to the famous Dr. Charles Goring, born circa 1870, noted Medical Officer for Her Majesty's Prisons. Secondly, continuing breakdown the abbreviations ... L.A.H. (instead of L.A.K. which could have been a printing error) is the post-nominal "Licentiate of Apothecaries Hall" being part of The Worshipful Society of Apothecaries of London - which would make sense as well. Working with Pat's suggestions it could also be a "King's College" connection. I wonder what any Ley's family history notes might have to say about this daughter of Francis??? Any one know anything about the descendants of Francis Leys of Pickering? Cheers! J. Brian Gilchrist ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Marshall To: 'Brian Gilchrist' Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 10:13 AM Subject: RE: MRSCSLAKC Hi Brian - I am transcribing the Markham Economist newspaper for the York Region OGS newsletter and came across this marriage: 9 Aug.1860 On 9 June, at Essequibo, Charles GORING Jr., M.R.C.S.L.A.K.C. to Rachael, fourth daughter of the late Francis LEYS, Esquire, of Pickering. I'd like to qualify for the readers what it stands for. M.R.C.S. does seem to be the Royal College of Surgeons in London. BTW - saw you on the Scott Thompson episode of "Who Do You Think You Are?" - well done. Someday I have to get to the Peel Co Archives to find traces of my Etobicoke ancestors! Steve ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- From: Brian Gilchrist [mailto:gilchrists@idirect.com] Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 10:05 AM To: ontario@rootsweb.com; smarshall2071@rogers.com Subject: MRSCSLAKC Hey Steve: Can you let me know who is it, and the citation so I can take a look please. The K.C. could refer to "King's Counsel" if he was appointed during the pre Victorian period. It does not apply to "Knights of Columbus" as they were not founded until the 1880's. Cheers! Brian *********** Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ONTARIO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Listers, A friend has asked me to do some research for her. I have very scanty information, but here it is. Looking for the marriage of Calvin Siscoe Powers, born 09 Sep 1826 in Ontario, and married "in the township of Clark in New Castle District, in the Methodist Episcopal Church, on 17 Oct 1845." (Information taken from family notes). Calvin's father was Samuel Weatherhead Powers, and mother was Catherine Sophia Doran. Any help you may provide as to how my friend may obtain this marriage record will be appreciated. Actually, any information on this family would also be extremely helpful. By 1860 the family had moved to the U.S. Calvin is her 3rd ggrandfather. Thanks so much. Lois Flook at flook1202@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

Ok, Essequibo is a Town (and a river) in British Guyana, South America, so we are dealing with non-average British people here. I could not find another Essequibo. I cannot help but wonder what connection if any this family might have to the famous Dr. Charles Goring, born circa 1870, noted Medical Officer for Her Majesty's Prisons. Secondly, continuing breakdown the abbreviations ... L.A.H. (instead of L.A.K. which could have been a printing error) is the post-nominal "Licentiate of Apothecaries Hall" being part of The Worshipful Society of Apothecaries of London - which would make sense as well. Working with Pat's suggestions it could also be a "King's College" connection. I wonder what any Ley's family history notes might have to say about this daughter of Francis??? Any one know anything about the descendants of Francis Leys of Pickering? Cheers! J. Brian Gilchrist ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Marshall To: 'Brian Gilchrist' Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 10:13 AM Subject: RE: MRSCSLAKC Hi Brian - I am transcribing the Markham Economist newspaper for the York Region OGS newsletter and came across this marriage: 9 Aug.1860 On 9 June, at Essequibo, Charles GORING Jr., M.R.C.S.L.A.K.C. to Rachael, fourth daughter of the late Francis LEYS, Esquire, of Pickering. I'd like to qualify for the readers what it stands for. M.R.C.S. does seem to be the Royal College of Surgeons in London. BTW - saw you on the Scott Thompson episode of "Who Do You Think You Are?" - well done. Someday I have to get to the Peel Co Archives to find traces of my Etobicoke ancestors! Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Brian Gilchrist [mailto:gilchrists@idirect.com] Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 10:05 AM To: ontario@rootsweb.com; smarshall2071@rogers.com Subject: MRSCSLAKC Hey Steve: Can you let me know who is it, and the citation so I can take a look please. The K.C. could refer to "King's Counsel" if he was appointed during the pre Victorian period. It does not apply to "Knights of Columbus" as they were not founded until the 1880's. Cheers! Brian