Mary, Could you tell me where to find the LDS pilot site at. sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "mary kahkola" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 5:53 PM Subject: [ONTARIO] attn Dee! >I found a marriage for Jacob Fountain & Lora Hill March 15, 1868 in Sanalac > Co. MI. She was 16-he 22. > Look on the LDS pilot site >

It is pilot.familysearch.org

On the map that lists the owners and land grants of Saltfleet Wentworth Co. there is a plot with the name "Hannah Cowell" and the year of the grant is 1802. It is beside the London property. If anyone can help with who Hannah Cowell was I would appreciate it. I am trying to put the Cowells listed in the 1851 census into a possible family. Peggy Large UE "I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I'm dead" thanks to Jimmy Buffett!

I just looked at the 1990 census and it appears that Jacob came over in 1868 and that he was naturalized. It does not mean that 1868 was the year he was naturalized, just that he immigrated over here at that time and did get his papers sometime prior to 1900. Louisa it looks like came over in 1866, two years before Jacob. And she was probably naturalized under her husband Jacob as back then the family was automatically included as far as I know. Dot

I found a marriage for a Jacob Fountain 22, born Canada to a Lora Hill on 15 Mar 1868 in Bridgehampton, Sanilac, Michigan There was also a Jacob Fountain listed as 17 years living in Fenelon, Victoria, Ontario, Canada on the 1861 census. I don't have access to the census to see the actual family he was with. Dot

I found a marriage for Jacob Fountain & Lora Hill March 15, 1868 in Sanalac Co. MI. She was 16-he 22. Look on the LDS pilot site ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Stevens" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] Help with what ever is available . . . > Michigan has some marriage records on line. Check the State of Michigan > website and look for vital records somewhere on it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On > Behalf Of Dee's Genealogy > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 3:29 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ONTARIO] Help with what ever is available . . . > > Hi Listers, > > I'm at a loss. Been doing genealogy for 20 years, but I'm drawing blanks > on > > what to do with my Fountain/LaFountain older generation. I would love > some > ideas/suggestions on where to go next and maybe how to clarify what I > have. > > I'm researching Jacob Fountain -until 1900- who then becomes Jacob > LaFountain and his wife, Louisa/Louise Hill. I've found him on 1870 > census > in Marine City, St. Clair, Michigan born about 1845;1880 census in Bay > City, > > Bay, Michigan born about 1842;1900 census in Bay County, Michigan shows > him > born Sept 1847; 1910 census in Bay county, Michigan shows him born about > 1852; 1920 census in Bay City, Bay, Michigan and born about 1845. Jacob > died 23 February 1924 at the age of 71 years - which would make him born > in > Sept 1847 - although he was age 75 in 1920 . . . <G> > > All census records show Jacob born in French Canada and his parents born > in > French Canada. 1900 census states that he came to USA in 1868 and he > married in 1868. HOWEVER - the birth record of their son William born in > 1876 in Marine City, Michigan states that Jacob was born in Lindsey, > Canada > and Louise in Three Rivers, Canada. Three Rivers is Quebec, BUT Lindsey > is > in Victoria County. I did find an IGI Family Group Record in Lindsey with > Joseph as the father and Elizabeth as the mother and Jacob as one of 6 > children and born in 1844. Found a VERY POOR QUALITY census record for > Lindsey area with a Jacob, and many other Fountains, but nothing to tie > him > to a Joseph. > > 1900 census shows that Jacob and Louisa came to the USA in 1880 and became > citizens in 1882. BUT, - Jacob's certificate of intention is dated 8 May > 1897. > > Most records show Louisa born in French Canada in: 1870 - age 18 b. 1852; > 1880 - age 27 b. 1853; 1900 - age 48 b. June 1851; 1910 - age 58 b. > 1852/51; > > 1920 age 64 - b. 1856. Louise died 20 November 1927 in Bay City, Bay, > Michigan at age 68 years, 5 months, 2 days which would make her born 18 > June > > 1859. I'm going with the birth date of June 1851 for her and born in > French > > Canada. Maybe Three Rivers, but I've checked as much as I know how to > check > > and found no record of her birth. Her parents names are David Hill and > Mary > > unknown and she had a brother, James b. abt. 1857 and an adopted sister > named Matilda Woods born abt 1872 in Michigan. ***Other recently found > relatives show James born in New York, USA!!!*** > > OH YES!!! 1870 census shows a farm laborer in the Jacob and Louisa home > by > the name of Alexander Woods and HE was born in New York. And on the 1880 > census David and Mary Hill and Matilda Woods b. abt 1872 - adopted - live > just a few houses away. And James and his wife Angelina live with them. > > I won't get into Jacob and Louisa's 15 children and only 4 living as of > the > 1900 census. Or the duplicate names used and sets of twins and deaths of > the babies!!! They named 4 babies Mary before they got one who lived. It > must have been so heartbreaking for them! > > I'm guessing they married in Marine City, Michigan but the Jacob I find > isn't married to A Louisa. BUT - my memory says that it might have been a > Hill. Could she have changed her given name? No parents names on the > record. > > I'm asking for suggestions for where to go next, and what my priorities > should be, in order to find Jacob and Louisa in Canada. Your ideas would > be > GREATLY appreciated. > > Dee Sager > Neosho, Missouri USA > > > > > > > > > > > > *********** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > *********** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Dee and all subscribers I really appreciate that Dee gave us a very detailed outline of her problem and her family details. It was very well presented! However I would really appreciate it if those responding to Dee about ANY part of her email that is NOT in ONTARIO -- would do so privately. The Ontario bit is below, please do feel free to respond here on the Ontario mailing list with ideas and help for Dee regarding the Ontario portion *only* It just will get far too confusing if we all start writing to a list whose topic is ONTARIO with helpful ideas for searching in Michigan or New York or Quebec or...... you get the picture I'm sure :-) Dee, best of luck with your quest and feel free to submit it to [email protected] for inclusion on the AskOliveTree.blogspot.com free blog. Lorine On 6 Apr 2010 at 14:28, Dee's Genealogy wrote: > > All census records show Jacob born in French Canada and his > parents born in French Canada. 1900 census states that he > came to USA in 1868 and he married in 1868. HOWEVER - the > birth record of their son William born in 1876 in Marine > City, Michigan states that Jacob was born in Lindsey, Canada > and Louise in Three Rivers, Canada. Three Rivers is Quebec, > BUT Lindsey is in Victoria County. -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Follow me on Twitter http://twitter.com/LorineMS * Olive Tree Genealogy http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ [email protected] or [email protected]

You mention two adopted children living with the family, but not with the family surname. I wonder if they were British Home Children. If no luck with any resource, suggest you enroll with [email protected] And ask if the children might be. Yhe information you gave meets the criteria. If you don't know about home children, look them up on Google for the subject. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stella Stanger Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 4:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] Help with what FOUNTAN,LaFOUNTAIN, HILL,. . Hi Dee, Wish I could be of help - but - a few thoughts. 1. Re differences in BiRTH YEARS - on various CENSUS Unlike today - some people may not have known their birth date they may know the aprox - year - or guess at the aprox. year./month. 2. REGISTRATION of DEATH - is only as accurate - as the information known to the informant - which - may at times be way off. * eg. my uncles son in law was the informant on his registration of death - in the 1960's He had the name -correct - but to this day - we don't know where he found the name of the mother - ?? a surname not known to any family members . The given name - not one shown in any family information. He does not remember - where or why he gave that name. - the records are therefor not correct. It would cost $50 to have this amended - The 5 daughters and 3 sons - did no want to pay the fee. and I am not allowed to. 3.CERTIFICATE of INTENT- will probably the most accurate one - since it is an official document - Rather than family history/stories/ beliefs . - which can be incorrect. Certificate of Intent - would this be an application for Citizenship. **Citizenship Papers - the same ? - if not - have you searched State Archive for Michigan - or National Archive in Washington DC - for Citizenship. This may? show names of parents - date and place of birth - hopefully the correct date - and actual place of birth. 4. Marriages of Children: Marriage Registration of the children - will show the names of parents - place of birth of parents - may show actual place - or Canada - may be worth a search. Have you posted to Michigan, to Quebec - Mail Lists - or Message Boards. Message boards you will only receive response to your posting. Wishing you much luck with your research> Cheers, Stella At 12:28 PM 06/04/2010, you wrote: >Hi Listers, > >I'm at a loss. Been doing genealogy for 20 years, but I'm drawing blanks on >what to do with my Fountain/LaFountain older generation. I would love some >ideas/suggestions on where to go next and maybe how to clarify what I have. > >I'm researching Jacob Fountain - >until 1900- who then becomes Jacob LaFountain and his wife, >Louisa/Louise Hill. >I've found him on >1870 census in Marine City, St. Clair, Michigan born about 1845; >1880 census in Bay City, Bay, Michigan born about 1842; >1900 census in Bay County, Michigan shows him born Sept 1847; >1910 census in Bay county, Michigan shows him born about 1852; >1920 census in Bay City, Bay, Michigan and born about 1845. >Jacob died 23 February 1924 at the age of 71 years - >which would make him born in Sept 1847 - although he was age 75 in >1920 . . . <G> >All census records show Jacob born in French Canada and >his parents born in French Canada. >1900 census states that he came to USA in 1868 and he married in 1868. >HOWEVER - the birth record of their son >William born in 1876 in Marine City, Michigan >states that >Jacob was born in Lindsey, Canada >Louise in Three Rivers, Canada. >Three Rivers is Quebec, >BUT >Lindsey is in Victoria County. >I did find an IGI Family Group Record in Lindsey with >Joseph as the father and Elizabeth as the mother >Jacob as one of 6 children and born in 1844. >Found a VERY POOR QUALITY census record for Lindsey area >with a Jacob, and many other Fountains, but nothing to tie him to a Joseph. > >1900 census shows that Jacob and Louisa came to the USA in 1880 and became >citizens in 1882. >BUT, - >Jacob's certificate of intention is dated 8 May 1897. > >Most records show Louisa born in French Canada >1870 - age 18 b. 1852; >1880 - age 27 b. 1853; >1900 - age 48 b. June 1851; >1910 - age 58 b. 1852/51; >1920 age 64 - b. 1856. >Louise died 20 November 1927 in Bay City, Bay, Michigan at age 68 >years, 5 months, 2 days >which would make her born 18 June 1859. >I'm going with the birth date of June 1851 for her and born in >French Canada. Maybe Three Rivers, >but I've checked as much as I know how to check and found no record >of her birth. >Her parents names are David Hill and Mary unknown >she had a brother, James b. abt. 1857 >an adopted sister named Matilda Woods born abt 1872 in Michigan. >***Other recently found relatives show James born in New York, USA!!!*** > >OH YES!!! >1870 census shows a farm laborer in the >Jacob and Louisa home by the name of >Alexander Woods and HE was born in New York. >on the 1880 census David and Mary Hill and Matilda Woods b. abt 1872 >- adopted - live >just a few houses away. James and his wife Angelina live with them. > >I won't get into Jacob and Louisa's 15 children and only 4 living as of the >1900 census. >Or the duplicate names used and sets of twins and deaths of the babies!!! >They named 4 babies Mary before they got one who lived. >It must have been so heartbreaking for them! > >I'm guessing they married in Marine City, Michigan >but the Jacob I find isn't married to A Louisa. >BUT - my memory says that it might have been a Hill. >Could she have changed her given name? >No parents names on the record. > >I'm asking for suggestions for where to go next, >and what my priorities should be, in order to find Jacob and Louisa >in Canada. >Your ideas would be >GREATLY appreciated. > >Dee Sager >Neosho, Missouri USA > > > > > > > > > >Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message *********** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Michigan has some marriage records on line. Check the State of Michigan website and look for vital records somewhere on it. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dee's Genealogy Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 3:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ONTARIO] Help with what ever is available . . . Hi Listers, I'm at a loss. Been doing genealogy for 20 years, but I'm drawing blanks on what to do with my Fountain/LaFountain older generation. I would love some ideas/suggestions on where to go next and maybe how to clarify what I have. I'm researching Jacob Fountain -until 1900- who then becomes Jacob LaFountain and his wife, Louisa/Louise Hill. I've found him on 1870 census in Marine City, St. Clair, Michigan born about 1845;1880 census in Bay City, Bay, Michigan born about 1842;1900 census in Bay County, Michigan shows him born Sept 1847; 1910 census in Bay county, Michigan shows him born about 1852; 1920 census in Bay City, Bay, Michigan and born about 1845. Jacob died 23 February 1924 at the age of 71 years - which would make him born in Sept 1847 - although he was age 75 in 1920 . . . <G> All census records show Jacob born in French Canada and his parents born in French Canada. 1900 census states that he came to USA in 1868 and he married in 1868. HOWEVER - the birth record of their son William born in 1876 in Marine City, Michigan states that Jacob was born in Lindsey, Canada and Louise in Three Rivers, Canada. Three Rivers is Quebec, BUT Lindsey is in Victoria County. I did find an IGI Family Group Record in Lindsey with Joseph as the father and Elizabeth as the mother and Jacob as one of 6 children and born in 1844. Found a VERY POOR QUALITY census record for Lindsey area with a Jacob, and many other Fountains, but nothing to tie him to a Joseph. 1900 census shows that Jacob and Louisa came to the USA in 1880 and became citizens in 1882. BUT, - Jacob's certificate of intention is dated 8 May 1897. Most records show Louisa born in French Canada in: 1870 - age 18 b. 1852; 1880 - age 27 b. 1853; 1900 - age 48 b. June 1851; 1910 - age 58 b. 1852/51; 1920 age 64 - b. 1856. Louise died 20 November 1927 in Bay City, Bay, Michigan at age 68 years, 5 months, 2 days which would make her born 18 June 1859. I'm going with the birth date of June 1851 for her and born in French Canada. Maybe Three Rivers, but I've checked as much as I know how to check and found no record of her birth. Her parents names are David Hill and Mary unknown and she had a brother, James b. abt. 1857 and an adopted sister named Matilda Woods born abt 1872 in Michigan. ***Other recently found relatives show James born in New York, USA!!!*** OH YES!!! 1870 census shows a farm laborer in the Jacob and Louisa home by the name of Alexander Woods and HE was born in New York. And on the 1880 census David and Mary Hill and Matilda Woods b. abt 1872 - adopted - live just a few houses away. And James and his wife Angelina live with them. I won't get into Jacob and Louisa's 15 children and only 4 living as of the 1900 census. Or the duplicate names used and sets of twins and deaths of the babies!!! They named 4 babies Mary before they got one who lived. It must have been so heartbreaking for them! I'm guessing they married in Marine City, Michigan but the Jacob I find isn't married to A Louisa. BUT - my memory says that it might have been a Hill. Could she have changed her given name? No parents names on the record. I'm asking for suggestions for where to go next, and what my priorities should be, in order to find Jacob and Louisa in Canada. Your ideas would be GREATLY appreciated. Dee Sager Neosho, Missouri USA *********** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am lucky enough to possess my grandfather's Declaration of Intent. At Detroit, he renounced his allegiance to Queen Victoria of Great Britain. Yes, it was his express intent to become an American citizen. However, he never did, so I'm guessing he literally was the man without a country. Would like to hear a legal opinion on that. My grandfather was permitted to vote after his renunciation of Britain. Other information on this person I obtained from the Immigration and Naturlization Office which, when I was there, was on East Jefferson in Det roit. I have no idea where it is now held. If you are in the States, I'd check first with your federal senator. Senators have staffs who have access of how to find "stuff like that." I've used them occasionally. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stella Stanger Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 4:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] Help with what FOUNTAN,LaFOUNTAIN, HILL,. . Hi Dee, Wish I could be of help - but - a few thoughts. 1. Re differences in BiRTH YEARS - on various CENSUS Unlike today - some people may not have known their birth date they may know the aprox - year - or guess at the aprox. year./month. 2. REGISTRATION of DEATH - is only as accurate - as the information known to the informant - which - may at times be way off. * eg. my uncles son in law was the informant on his registration of death - in the 1960's He had the name -correct - but to this day - we don't know where he found the name of the mother - ?? a surname not known to any family members . The given name - not one shown in any family information. He does not remember - where or why he gave that name. - the records are therefor not correct. It would cost $50 to have this amended - The 5 daughters and 3 sons - did no want to pay the fee. and I am not allowed to. 3.CERTIFICATE of INTENT- will probably the most accurate one - since it is an official document - Rather than family history/stories/ beliefs . - which can be incorrect. Certificate of Intent - would this be an application for Citizenship. **Citizenship Papers - the same ? - if not - have you searched State Archive for Michigan - or National Archive in Washington DC - for Citizenship. This may? show names of parents - date and place of birth - hopefully the correct date - and actual place of birth. 4. Marriages of Children: Marriage Registration of the children - will show the names of parents - place of birth of parents - may show actual place - or Canada - may be worth a search. Have you posted to Michigan, to Quebec - Mail Lists - or Message Boards. Message boards you will only receive response to your posting. Wishing you much luck with your research> Cheers, Stella At 12:28 PM 06/04/2010, you wrote: >Hi Listers, > >I'm at a loss. Been doing genealogy for 20 years, but I'm drawing blanks on >what to do with my Fountain/LaFountain older generation. I would love some >ideas/suggestions on where to go next and maybe how to clarify what I have. > >I'm researching Jacob Fountain - >until 1900- who then becomes Jacob LaFountain and his wife, >Louisa/Louise Hill. >I've found him on >1870 census in Marine City, St. Clair, Michigan born about 1845; >1880 census in Bay City, Bay, Michigan born about 1842; >1900 census in Bay County, Michigan shows him born Sept 1847; >1910 census in Bay county, Michigan shows him born about 1852; >1920 census in Bay City, Bay, Michigan and born about 1845. >Jacob died 23 February 1924 at the age of 71 years - >which would make him born in Sept 1847 - although he was age 75 in >1920 . . . <G> >All census records show Jacob born in French Canada and >his parents born in French Canada. >1900 census states that he came to USA in 1868 and he married in 1868. >HOWEVER - the birth record of their son >William born in 1876 in Marine City, Michigan >states that >Jacob was born in Lindsey, Canada >Louise in Three Rivers, Canada. >Three Rivers is Quebec, >BUT >Lindsey is in Victoria County. >I did find an IGI Family Group Record in Lindsey with >Joseph as the father and Elizabeth as the mother >Jacob as one of 6 children and born in 1844. >Found a VERY POOR QUALITY census record for Lindsey area >with a Jacob, and many other Fountains, but nothing to tie him to a Joseph. > >1900 census shows that Jacob and Louisa came to the USA in 1880 and became >citizens in 1882. >BUT, - >Jacob's certificate of intention is dated 8 May 1897. > >Most records show Louisa born in French Canada >1870 - age 18 b. 1852; >1880 - age 27 b. 1853; >1900 - age 48 b. June 1851; >1910 - age 58 b. 1852/51; >1920 age 64 - b. 1856. >Louise died 20 November 1927 in Bay City, Bay, Michigan at age 68 >years, 5 months, 2 days >which would make her born 18 June 1859. >I'm going with the birth date of June 1851 for her and born in >French Canada. Maybe Three Rivers, >but I've checked as much as I know how to check and found no record >of her birth. >Her parents names are David Hill and Mary unknown >she had a brother, James b. abt. 1857 >an adopted sister named Matilda Woods born abt 1872 in Michigan. >***Other recently found relatives show James born in New York, USA!!!*** > >OH YES!!! >1870 census shows a farm laborer in the >Jacob and Louisa home by the name of >Alexander Woods and HE was born in New York. >on the 1880 census David and Mary Hill and Matilda Woods b. abt 1872 >- adopted - live >just a few houses away. James and his wife Angelina live with them. > >I won't get into Jacob and Louisa's 15 children and only 4 living as of the >1900 census. >Or the duplicate names used and sets of twins and deaths of the babies!!! >They named 4 babies Mary before they got one who lived. >It must have been so heartbreaking for them! > >I'm guessing they married in Marine City, Michigan >but the Jacob I find isn't married to A Louisa. >BUT - my memory says that it might have been a Hill. >Could she have changed her given name? >No parents names on the record. > >I'm asking for suggestions for where to go next, >and what my priorities should be, in order to find Jacob and Louisa >in Canada. >Your ideas would be >GREATLY appreciated. > >Dee Sager >Neosho, Missouri USA > > > > > > > > > >Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message *********** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Everyone I am also searching for an obiturary for WILLIAM LAMONT TAIT he died in Muskoka Ontario Feb 15, 1897 he was a widow as his wife Mary Patton Tait died in 1890---------he was born in Scotland came to the US in 1848 I greatly appreciate anything anyone may have on William & Mary Thank you all very much Susan Toledo Ohio USA

Hi Listers, I'm at a loss. Been doing genealogy for 20 years, but I'm drawing blanks on what to do with my Fountain/LaFountain older generation. I would love some ideas/suggestions on where to go next and maybe how to clarify what I have. I'm researching Jacob Fountain -until 1900- who then becomes Jacob LaFountain and his wife, Louisa/Louise Hill. I've found him on 1870 census in Marine City, St. Clair, Michigan born about 1845;1880 census in Bay City, Bay, Michigan born about 1842;1900 census in Bay County, Michigan shows him born Sept 1847; 1910 census in Bay county, Michigan shows him born about 1852; 1920 census in Bay City, Bay, Michigan and born about 1845. Jacob died 23 February 1924 at the age of 71 years - which would make him born in Sept 1847 - although he was age 75 in 1920 . . . <G> All census records show Jacob born in French Canada and his parents born in French Canada. 1900 census states that he came to USA in 1868 and he married in 1868. HOWEVER - the birth record of their son William born in 1876 in Marine City, Michigan states that Jacob was born in Lindsey, Canada and Louise in Three Rivers, Canada. Three Rivers is Quebec, BUT Lindsey is in Victoria County. I did find an IGI Family Group Record in Lindsey with Joseph as the father and Elizabeth as the mother and Jacob as one of 6 children and born in 1844. Found a VERY POOR QUALITY census record for Lindsey area with a Jacob, and many other Fountains, but nothing to tie him to a Joseph. 1900 census shows that Jacob and Louisa came to the USA in 1880 and became citizens in 1882. BUT, - Jacob's certificate of intention is dated 8 May 1897. Most records show Louisa born in French Canada in: 1870 - age 18 b. 1852; 1880 - age 27 b. 1853; 1900 - age 48 b. June 1851; 1910 - age 58 b. 1852/51; 1920 age 64 - b. 1856. Louise died 20 November 1927 in Bay City, Bay, Michigan at age 68 years, 5 months, 2 days which would make her born 18 June 1859. I'm going with the birth date of June 1851 for her and born in French Canada. Maybe Three Rivers, but I've checked as much as I know how to check and found no record of her birth. Her parents names are David Hill and Mary unknown and she had a brother, James b. abt. 1857 and an adopted sister named Matilda Woods born abt 1872 in Michigan. ***Other recently found relatives show James born in New York, USA!!!*** OH YES!!! 1870 census shows a farm laborer in the Jacob and Louisa home by the name of Alexander Woods and HE was born in New York. And on the 1880 census David and Mary Hill and Matilda Woods b. abt 1872 - adopted - live just a few houses away. And James and his wife Angelina live with them. I won't get into Jacob and Louisa's 15 children and only 4 living as of the 1900 census. Or the duplicate names used and sets of twins and deaths of the babies!!! They named 4 babies Mary before they got one who lived. It must have been so heartbreaking for them! I'm guessing they married in Marine City, Michigan but the Jacob I find isn't married to A Louisa. BUT - my memory says that it might have been a Hill. Could she have changed her given name? No parents names on the record. I'm asking for suggestions for where to go next, and what my priorities should be, in order to find Jacob and Louisa in Canada. Your ideas would be GREATLY appreciated. Dee Sager Neosho, Missouri USA

Hi Dee, Wish I could be of help - but - a few thoughts. 1. Re differences in BiRTH YEARS - on various CENSUS Unlike today - some people may not have known their birth date they may know the aprox - year - or guess at the aprox. year./month. 2. REGISTRATION of DEATH - is only as accurate - as the information known to the informant - which - may at times be way off. * eg. my uncles son in law was the informant on his registration of death - in the 1960's He had the name -correct - but to this day - we don't know where he found the name of the mother - ?? a surname not known to any family members . The given name - not one shown in any family information. He does not remember - where or why he gave that name. - the records are therefor not correct. It would cost $50 to have this amended - The 5 daughters and 3 sons - did no want to pay the fee. and I am not allowed to. 3.CERTIFICATE of INTENT- will probably the most accurate one - since it is an official document - Rather than family history/stories/ beliefs . - which can be incorrect. Certificate of Intent - would this be an application for Citizenship. **Citizenship Papers - the same ? - if not - have you searched State Archive for Michigan - or National Archive in Washington DC - for Citizenship. This may? show names of parents - date and place of birth - hopefully the correct date - and actual place of birth. 4. Marriages of Children: Marriage Registration of the children - will show the names of parents - place of birth of parents - may show actual place - or Canada - may be worth a search. Have you posted to Michigan, to Quebec - Mail Lists - or Message Boards. Message boards you will only receive response to your posting. Wishing you much luck with your research> Cheers, Stella At 12:28 PM 06/04/2010, you wrote: >Hi Listers, > >I'm at a loss. Been doing genealogy for 20 years, but I'm drawing blanks on >what to do with my Fountain/LaFountain older generation. I would love some >ideas/suggestions on where to go next and maybe how to clarify what I have. > >I'm researching Jacob Fountain - >until 1900- who then becomes Jacob LaFountain and his wife, >Louisa/Louise Hill. >I've found him on >1870 census in Marine City, St. Clair, Michigan born about 1845; >1880 census in Bay City, Bay, Michigan born about 1842; >1900 census in Bay County, Michigan shows him born Sept 1847; >1910 census in Bay county, Michigan shows him born about 1852; >1920 census in Bay City, Bay, Michigan and born about 1845. >Jacob died 23 February 1924 at the age of 71 years - >which would make him born in Sept 1847 - although he was age 75 in >1920 . . . <G> >All census records show Jacob born in French Canada and >his parents born in French Canada. >1900 census states that he came to USA in 1868 and he married in 1868. >HOWEVER - the birth record of their son >William born in 1876 in Marine City, Michigan >states that >Jacob was born in Lindsey, Canada >Louise in Three Rivers, Canada. >Three Rivers is Quebec, >BUT >Lindsey is in Victoria County. >I did find an IGI Family Group Record in Lindsey with >Joseph as the father and Elizabeth as the mother >Jacob as one of 6 children and born in 1844. >Found a VERY POOR QUALITY census record for Lindsey area >with a Jacob, and many other Fountains, but nothing to tie him to a Joseph. > >1900 census shows that Jacob and Louisa came to the USA in 1880 and became >citizens in 1882. >BUT, - >Jacob's certificate of intention is dated 8 May 1897. > >Most records show Louisa born in French Canada >1870 - age 18 b. 1852; >1880 - age 27 b. 1853; >1900 - age 48 b. June 1851; >1910 - age 58 b. 1852/51; >1920 age 64 - b. 1856. >Louise died 20 November 1927 in Bay City, Bay, Michigan at age 68 >years, 5 months, 2 days >which would make her born 18 June 1859. >I'm going with the birth date of June 1851 for her and born in >French Canada. Maybe Three Rivers, >but I've checked as much as I know how to check and found no record >of her birth. >Her parents names are David Hill and Mary unknown >she had a brother, James b. abt. 1857 >an adopted sister named Matilda Woods born abt 1872 in Michigan. >***Other recently found relatives show James born in New York, USA!!!*** > >OH YES!!! >1870 census shows a farm laborer in the >Jacob and Louisa home by the name of >Alexander Woods and HE was born in New York. >on the 1880 census David and Mary Hill and Matilda Woods b. abt 1872 >- adopted - live >just a few houses away. James and his wife Angelina live with them. > >I won't get into Jacob and Louisa's 15 children and only 4 living as of the >1900 census. >Or the duplicate names used and sets of twins and deaths of the babies!!! >They named 4 babies Mary before they got one who lived. >It must have been so heartbreaking for them! > >I'm guessing they married in Marine City, Michigan >but the Jacob I find isn't married to A Louisa. >BUT - my memory says that it might have been a Hill. >Could she have changed her given name? >No parents names on the record. > >I'm asking for suggestions for where to go next, >and what my priorities should be, in order to find Jacob and Louisa >in Canada. >Your ideas would be >GREATLY appreciated. > >Dee Sager >Neosho, Missouri USA > > > > > > > > > >Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Everyone Hoping someone can help me find an obiturary for MARY PATTON TAIT wife of WILLIAM LAMONT TAIT she is suppose to have died in 1890 at the age of 64 -------- born Scotland -------- trying to see if her brother Robert Patton was still alive appreciate anything anyone may have on her Thank you all Susan Toledo Ohio USA

Susan, Can you give an indication where Mary and William were living. Also, did Robert Patton reside in Ontario? Was he married? There is a Robert Pattan born circa 1830 living in Perth as per the 1881 Census. There is an 1889 Ontario death registration stating birth place as Scotland. Gail ________________________________ From: kenneth burton <[email protected]> To: Ontario Canada <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, April 6, 2010 11:35:23 AM Subject: [ONTARIO] help with Obit please MARY Patton TAIT Hello Everyone Hoping someone can help me find an obiturary for MARY PATTON TAIT wife of WILLIAM LAMONT TAIT she is suppose to have died in 1890 at the age of 64 -------- born Scotland -------- trying to see if her brother Robert Patton was still alive appreciate anything anyone may have on her Thank you all Susan Toledo Ohio USA *********** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Sharon, I am not sure what years have been released and put on Ancestry but last time I checked (and i could be wrong) the births for 1930 hadn't been released yet ( i jsut checked and they won't be available for Ontario for quite some time. check out the link: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~canon/research-year-1930.html#available ) If you do want a copy you will have to fill out the form for the General Registrars office, provide proof of relationship, have a guarantor sign and be able to pay then have the patience to wait for them. Hope this helps. Kate > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 00:57:09 -0400 > Subject: [ONTARIO] RE-BIRTHS > > Hello List, > Could anyone who has Ancestry tell me if you can find births for the year 1930 on it. If so would it just be the info or a copy of the certificate. > Thankyou in advance for your help. > Sharon > > *********** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail & Messenger are available on your phone. Try now. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9724461

Hello List, Could anyone who has Ancestry tell me if you can find births for the year 1930 on it. If so would it just be the info or a copy of the certificate. Thankyou in advance for your help. Sharon

Hi Sharon, Birth Certificates/ Short form Birth Certificate - is an extract of basic information taken from the Registration of Birth . Long form includes all personal information required at the time. http://www.ontario.ca/en/information_bundle/individuals/119276 Birth Registrations - are considered Private - This differs in each Province. In British Columbia - the Birth Registrations are Private - till the 121st year after the event. The following for Ontario. it appears that the Registrations are available to 1912 - 1913 available this year. http://www.ontario.ca/en/information_bundle/individuals/119276 You may be able to Order - the Registration of Death - from Govt Of Ontario - Vital Statistics Dept. Cheers, Stella At 09:57 PM 04/04/2010, you wrote: >Hello List, >Could anyone who has Ancestry tell me if you can find births for the >year 1930 on it. If so would it just be the info or a copy of the certificate. >Thankyou in advance for your help. >Sharon > >*********** >Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > >Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is there anything known of David Bowman FORRESTER (1893-1974), Janet GODFRED (nee FORRESTER) b. 1895 or Samuel White FORRESTER (1903-1990); all were born in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire (Scotland). The family was for many years settled in Niagara Falls? Regards, Janet.

Thank you for checking Anne, very much appreciated. Ellen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Margerison" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 2:39 AM Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] The Light of Other Days > Sorry. I looked through the whole book and didn't find any mention. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On > Behalf Of Ellen Murray > Sent: April 3, 2010 1:26 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ONTARIO] The Light of Other Days > > Anne, hope you don't mind my asking, any mention of: > > Diemel (Demal), Weissmueller, Wettlaufer, Gilbert in the book? > > Ellen > > *********** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.800 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2787 - Release Date: 04/02/10 > 23:32:00 > > > *********** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >