Hi Everyone. Would love to thank everyone who wrote with help on Cooke's Presbyterian Church in Toronto. What a great list this is. Thank you so much Muriel

Thanks Stella - but this could be delicate - hence the reason for being obscure. Muriel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stella Stanger" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 9:39 PM Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] church records > > Hi, Always a good idea to post the Name/s of the persons of interest > -may save some time etc > Surname in Capital Letters on the Subject line, Given name - etc > Cheers, Sella > >

Hi everyone. I am hoping that some one on the list may have access to Records of Cooke Presbyterian Church , Toronto. I am looking for any records of a Uncle who arrived in Canada from Ireland in 1909. He was living at O'Hara Avenue in 1911. Many thanks. Muriel Donegal Ireland

Hi Muriel Have you seen this site? http://archeion-aao.fis.utoronto.ca/cgi-bin/ifetch?DBRootName=ON&RecordKey=42&FieldKey=F&FilePath=ON00313f/ON00313-f0000116.xml > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Murlel Sherlock > <[email protected] >> wrote: > >> Hi everyone. >> >> I am hoping that some one on the list may have access to Records of >> Cooke >> Presbyterian Church , Toronto. >> >> I am looking for any records of a Uncle who arrived in Canada from >> Ireland >> in 1909. >> He was living at O'Hara Avenue in 1911. >> >> Many thanks. >> Muriel >> Donegal >> Ireland >> >> *********** >> Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy >> >> Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at >> http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > *********** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Muriel: It would help us to help you if you included in your email the name of the person, date of birth, even approx, was he married before arrival, had any kids, etc, etc. Also, could you please tell us exactly what records you are looking for, please? Ontario births, marriages deaths up to certain years are online on Ancestry.com and many of us have subscriptions and would help you out if you were to give the List more info. So even if we don't have access to the church records, we may be able to help you with provincial bmd's, census, passenger lists, etc. Marg in Sunny Alberta On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Murlel Sherlock <[email protected] > wrote: > Hi everyone. > > I am hoping that some one on the list may have access to Records of Cooke > Presbyterian Church , Toronto. > > I am looking for any records of a Uncle who arrived in Canada from Ireland > in 1909. > He was living at O'Hara Avenue in 1911. > > Many thanks. > Muriel > Donegal > Ireland > > *********** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Muriel do you have more details?? name, family members, age ----- Original Message ----- From: "Murlel Sherlock" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 4:02 PM Subject: [ONTARIO] church records > Hi everyone. > > I am hoping that some one on the list may have access to Records of Cooke > Presbyterian Church , Toronto. > > I am looking for any records of a Uncle who arrived in Canada from > Ireland in 1909. > He was living at O'Hara Avenue in 1911. > > Many thanks. > Muriel > Donegal > Ireland > > *********** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, Always a good idea to post the Name/s of the persons of interest -may save some time etc Surname in Capital Letters on the Subject line, Given name - etc Cheers, Sella At 01:02 PM 21/06/2010, you wrote: >Hi everyone. > >I am hoping that some one on the list may have access to Records of >Cooke Presbyterian Church , Toronto. > >I am looking for any records of a Uncle who arrived in Canada from >Ireland in 1909. >He was living at O'Hara Avenue in 1911. > >Many thanks. >Muriel >Donegal >Ireland > >*********** >Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > >Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks so much for the information that I have received so far. Re the 1871 census, this is where is starts to get a bit spooky...Harriet and Ellen were married on the same day in 1864 (York, Toronto) and by the time of the England 1871 census Harriet was in England with her husband Robert Braik. So, in theory she shouldn't really appear on the 1871 Ontario census..... I've followed Ellen a bit - her married name was Baker and she appears with her husband in later census records in Wisconsin (I think). Thanks Fiona -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joanna Waugh Sent: 20 June 2010 04:37 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] Help needed Hello Fiona, According to the book "Wilson's Marriage Notices, the marriage of "Lemon Smith " and Mary Campbell was reported in the Christian Guardian ( the Methodist newspaper) on June 5 1839 "on 25th April, Lemon Smith and Mary Campbell, both of Tiny, (Rev J Scott). On Ancestry , the image of this marriage return in the Home district register is now available. I'll send it to you off list. The marriage took place in Orillia and the minister Jonathan Scott wrote the return when he was in Niagara in 1840 . I think I see the family in Toronto in the 1861 census you referred to . They are also there in 1871 census. Mary is running a boarding house. But Harriet is still with them, age 31, milliner and Ellen is with them? There can't be 2 families with a son named Leman the right age in Toronto at the same time? You can get the image through Automated genealogy. 1871 census Name: Mary Smith Gender: Female Age: 49 Birth Year: abt 1822 Birth Place: Scotland Marital Status: Widowed Religion: W Methodist Origin: Scotland (Scotish) Province: Ontario District: Toronto West District Number: 46 Division: 02 Subdistrict: St Patricks Ward Subdistrict Number: b Household Members: Name Age Mary Smith 49 Harriott Smith 31 Mary Anne Smith 27 Lemen Smith 25 Ellen Smith 23 Margret Smith 21 Mary Smith appears in the Toronto Directories in the Digital Collection at the Toronto Public Library. She is mentioned from about 1866 to 1874. The first couple years say she is the widow of Leman. 1874 says wid L. Lemon appears in the directories starting about 1866 He was a porter with the GWR (Great Western Railway) Then I odn't see either in the census, or any vital statistics on Ancestry. They vanish. It is hard getting outgoing records from Canada. You might get more information on Robert Braik leaving Canada through his military records. Joanna > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:19:19 +0100 > From: "Fiona Waltenberg" <[email protected]> > Subject: [ONTARIO] Help needed > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hello > > I'm hoping someone can help me.here is some background to my request: > > Mary Ann Campbell (born Scotland 1822) and Leman Smith (born New York 1814 > - > apparently) were married on 25 April 1839 in Orillia, Simco, Ontario. Leman > and Mary Ann had 7 children: > > Harriet, born/christened 5 February 1840, Penetanguishene, Simco > John, born/christened 14 December 1841, Penetanguishene, Simco > Mary Ann, born/christened 9 July 1843, Penetanguishene, Simco > Leman, born/christened 1846, Penetanguishene, Simco Simco > Ellen, born/christened December 1848, Penetanguishene Simco > Margaret, born/christened 25 November 1850, Penetanguishene,Simco > William, born/christened 1853, Penetanguishene, Simco > > The family were Wesleyan Methodists and by 1861 I believe that they were in > Toronto as Harriet, Mary Ann, Margaret, William and mother Mary Ann are in > the Ontario 1861 Census - Census place - Toronto, York, Ontario. I can't > find the father, Leman, in this census and it's possible that he may have > died between 1853 and 1861. > Harriet's sister Ellen was married on the same day has her and her witness > was Leman Smith though I think that this is her brother Leman, not her > father. > > Harriet A Smith married Robert Baron Braik on 14 April 1864 in York > (Toronto). Robert Braik was in the army and he and Harriet had returned to > England by 1871. On the 1871 England Census they have 3 children, Mary Ann, > 5 yrs, Catherine, 3 yrs and Ellen, 1 month. The eldest daughter is indicated > as born in Aldershot, England so assuming this is correct they had returned > to England by 1865/1866. > > Catherine Braik is my great grandmother. She emigrated to Australia (from > what I can see by herself) in 1893 on the ship Taranto. > > Could anyone give me some pointers on: > > The possibility and whereabouts of the marriage record for Mary Ann and > Leman (25 April 1839). > A death record for Leman Smith, (father) > A death record for Mary Ann Smith, (mother) > Whether any shipping records might be available for Mary Ann's arrival in > Canada - I'm assuming that she would have come with her family. > Any shipping records for Robert and Harriet Braik leaving Canada. > > I would be very grateful for any help that anyone can give as I'm a bit > stuck on this Canadian connection and would like to research this further. I > don't have regular access to Ancestry.com. I obtained the birth information > above from familysearch.org. > > Thanks very much > > Fiona *********** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Try This folks. Its the ships manifests 1865-1922. Muriel http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/passenger/index-e.html?PHPSESSID=hjf04curvdfpo7cl0cl4utlok4

Hello Fiona, According to the book "Wilson's Marriage Notices, the marriage of "Lemon Smith " and Mary Campbell was reported in the Christian Guardian ( the Methodist newspaper) on June 5 1839 "on 25th April, Lemon Smith and Mary Campbell, both of Tiny, (Rev J Scott). On Ancestry , the image of this marriage return in the Home district register is now available. I'll send it to you off list. The marriage took place in Orillia and the minister Jonathan Scott wrote the return when he was in Niagara in 1840 . I think I see the family in Toronto in the 1861 census you referred to . They are also there in 1871 census. Mary is running a boarding house. But Harriet is still with them, age 31, milliner and Ellen is with them? There can't be 2 families with a son named Leman the right age in Toronto at the same time? You can get the image through Automated genealogy. 1871 census Name: Mary Smith Gender: Female Age: 49 Birth Year: abt 1822 Birth Place: Scotland Marital Status: Widowed Religion: W Methodist Origin: Scotland (Scotish) Province: Ontario District: Toronto West District Number: 46 Division: 02 Subdistrict: St Patricks Ward Subdistrict Number: b Household Members: Name Age Mary Smith 49 Harriott Smith 31 Mary Anne Smith 27 Lemen Smith 25 Ellen Smith 23 Margret Smith 21 Mary Smith appears in the Toronto Directories in the Digital Collection at the Toronto Public Library. She is mentioned from about 1866 to 1874. The first couple years say she is the widow of Leman. 1874 says wid L. Lemon appears in the directories starting about 1866 He was a porter with the GWR (Great Western Railway) Then I odn't see either in the census, or any vital statistics on Ancestry. They vanish. It is hard getting outgoing records from Canada. You might get more information on Robert Braik leaving Canada through his military records. Joanna > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:19:19 +0100 > From: "Fiona Waltenberg" <[email protected]> > Subject: [ONTARIO] Help needed > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hello > > I'm hoping someone can help me.here is some background to my request: > > Mary Ann Campbell (born Scotland 1822) and Leman Smith (born New York 1814 > - > apparently) were married on 25 April 1839 in Orillia, Simco, Ontario. Leman > and Mary Ann had 7 children: > > Harriet, born/christened 5 February 1840, Penetanguishene, Simco > John, born/christened 14 December 1841, Penetanguishene, Simco > Mary Ann, born/christened 9 July 1843, Penetanguishene, Simco > Leman, born/christened 1846, Penetanguishene, Simco Simco > Ellen, born/christened December 1848, Penetanguishene Simco > Margaret, born/christened 25 November 1850, Penetanguishene,Simco > William, born/christened 1853, Penetanguishene, Simco > > The family were Wesleyan Methodists and by 1861 I believe that they were in > Toronto as Harriet, Mary Ann, Margaret, William and mother Mary Ann are in > the Ontario 1861 Census - Census place - Toronto, York, Ontario. I can't > find the father, Leman, in this census and it's possible that he may have > died between 1853 and 1861. > Harriet's sister Ellen was married on the same day has her and her witness > was Leman Smith though I think that this is her brother Leman, not her > father. > > Harriet A Smith married Robert Baron Braik on 14 April 1864 in York > (Toronto). Robert Braik was in the army and he and Harriet had returned to > England by 1871. On the 1871 England Census they have 3 children, Mary Ann, > 5 yrs, Catherine, 3 yrs and Ellen, 1 month. The eldest daughter is indicated > as born in Aldershot, England so assuming this is correct they had returned > to England by 1865/1866. > > Catherine Braik is my great grandmother. She emigrated to Australia (from > what I can see by herself) in 1893 on the ship Taranto. > > Could anyone give me some pointers on: > > The possibility and whereabouts of the marriage record for Mary Ann and > Leman (25 April 1839). > A death record for Leman Smith, (father) > A death record for Mary Ann Smith, (mother) > Whether any shipping records might be available for Mary Ann's arrival in > Canada - I'm assuming that she would have come with her family. > Any shipping records for Robert and Harriet Braik leaving Canada. > > I would be very grateful for any help that anyone can give as I'm a bit > stuck on this Canadian connection and would like to research this further. I > don't have regular access to Ancestry.com. I obtained the birth information > above from familysearch.org. > > Thanks very much > > Fiona

Thanks to all of my friends here to gave me info re passenger lists. This will keep me busy for a while. I sure do appreciate this great group of guys and gals. Your "THE BEST" Thanks again. Shirl

Yes I do have this one. This was the first, and only, piece of information that I've really been able to locate in Canadian records so far. Thanks very much Fiona -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ellen Murray Sent: 19 June 2010 21:27 To: [email protected] Subject: [SPAM] Re: [ONTARIO] Help needed Fiona, do you have this marriage for Robert & Harriett? last one.... Page 183, return 175: by Rev James Preston, Wesleyan Methodist Elizah M TURNER, 24, England, Toronto, s/o Thomas W TURNER & Catherine BIBBY, married Sarah A DONOGHUE, 21, United States, Toronto, d/o Jas DONOGHUE & Martha BERRY, witn: George GRIFFIN of Toronto, 30 Jan 1864. Edward LEADLEY, 25, Canada, Toronto, s/o Henry LEADLEY & Mary RICHARDSON, married Elizabeth B UMNY, 22, England, Toronto, d/o John UMNY & Elizth KENDAL, witn: George LEADLEY of Toronto, 17 Feb 1864. George HALKER, 26, Scotland, Thorold, s/o John HALKER & Mary A GRANT, married Charlotte ELVIS, 22, England, Thorold, d/o William ELLIS & Sarah WHITELY, witn: George GIBSON of Toronto, 11 Mar 1864. William CHETTLE, 24, England, Toronto, s/o William CHETTLE & Mary OAKES, married Lydia NEWBERRY, 20, Canada, York Twp, d/o Jas NEWBERRY & Hannah COOK, witn: Jas NEWBERRY of York Twp, 09 Apr 1864. Robert Baron BRAIK, 31, Scotland, Toronto, s/o Peter BRAIK & Catherine DAVIDSON, married Harriet A SMTIH, 24, Canada, Toronto, d/o Leeman SMITH & Mary CAMPBELL, witn: Ebenezer HOLMES of Hamilton, 14 Apr 1864. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fiona Waltenberg" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 2:19 PM Subject: [ONTARIO] Help needed > Hello > > I'm hoping someone can help me.here is some background to my request: > > Mary Ann Campbell (born Scotland 1822) and Leman Smith (born New York > 1814 - > apparently) were married on 25 April 1839 in Orillia, Simco, Ontario. > Leman > and Mary Ann had 7 children: > > Harriet, born/christened 5 February 1840, Penetanguishene, Simco > John, born/christened 14 December 1841, Penetanguishene, Simco > Mary Ann, born/christened 9 July 1843, Penetanguishene, Simco > Leman, born/christened 1846, Penetanguishene, Simco Simco > Ellen, born/christened December 1848, Penetanguishene Simco > Margaret, born/christened 25 November 1850, Penetanguishene,Simco > William, born/christened 1853, Penetanguishene, Simco > > The family were Wesleyan Methodists and by 1861 I believe that they were > in > Toronto as Harriet, Mary Ann, Margaret, William and mother Mary Ann are in > the Ontario 1861 Census - Census place - Toronto, York, Ontario. I can't > find the father, Leman, in this census and it's possible that he may have > died between 1853 and 1861. > Harriet's sister Ellen was married on the same day has her and her witness > was Leman Smith though I think that this is her brother Leman, not her > father. > > Harriet A Smith married Robert Baron Braik on 14 April 1864 in York > (Toronto). Robert Braik was in the army and he and Harriet had returned to > England by 1871. On the 1871 England Census they have 3 children, Mary > Ann, > 5 yrs, Catherine, 3 yrs and Ellen, 1 month. The eldest daughter is > indicated > as born in Aldershot, England so assuming this is correct they had > returned > to England by 1865/1866. > > Catherine Braik is my great grandmother. She emigrated to Australia (from > what I can see by herself) in 1893 on the ship Taranto. > > Could anyone give me some pointers on: > > The possibility and whereabouts of the marriage record for Mary Ann and > Leman (25 April 1839). > A death record for Leman Smith, (father) > A death record for Mary Ann Smith, (mother) > Whether any shipping records might be available for Mary Ann's arrival in > Canada - I'm assuming that she would have come with her family. > Any shipping records for Robert and Harriet Braik leaving Canada. > > I would be very grateful for any help that anyone can give as I'm a bit > stuck on this Canadian connection and would like to research this further. > I > don't have regular access to Ancestry.com. I obtained the birth > information > above from familysearch.org. > > Thanks very much > > Fiona > > *********** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > *********** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello I'm hoping someone can help me.here is some background to my request: Mary Ann Campbell (born Scotland 1822) and Leman Smith (born New York 1814 - apparently) were married on 25 April 1839 in Orillia, Simco, Ontario. Leman and Mary Ann had 7 children: Harriet, born/christened 5 February 1840, Penetanguishene, Simco John, born/christened 14 December 1841, Penetanguishene, Simco Mary Ann, born/christened 9 July 1843, Penetanguishene, Simco Leman, born/christened 1846, Penetanguishene, Simco Simco Ellen, born/christened December 1848, Penetanguishene Simco Margaret, born/christened 25 November 1850, Penetanguishene,Simco William, born/christened 1853, Penetanguishene, Simco The family were Wesleyan Methodists and by 1861 I believe that they were in Toronto as Harriet, Mary Ann, Margaret, William and mother Mary Ann are in the Ontario 1861 Census - Census place - Toronto, York, Ontario. I can't find the father, Leman, in this census and it's possible that he may have died between 1853 and 1861. Harriet's sister Ellen was married on the same day has her and her witness was Leman Smith though I think that this is her brother Leman, not her father. Harriet A Smith married Robert Baron Braik on 14 April 1864 in York (Toronto). Robert Braik was in the army and he and Harriet had returned to England by 1871. On the 1871 England Census they have 3 children, Mary Ann, 5 yrs, Catherine, 3 yrs and Ellen, 1 month. The eldest daughter is indicated as born in Aldershot, England so assuming this is correct they had returned to England by 1865/1866. Catherine Braik is my great grandmother. She emigrated to Australia (from what I can see by herself) in 1893 on the ship Taranto. Could anyone give me some pointers on: The possibility and whereabouts of the marriage record for Mary Ann and Leman (25 April 1839). A death record for Leman Smith, (father) A death record for Mary Ann Smith, (mother) Whether any shipping records might be available for Mary Ann's arrival in Canada - I'm assuming that she would have come with her family. Any shipping records for Robert and Harriet Braik leaving Canada. I would be very grateful for any help that anyone can give as I'm a bit stuck on this Canadian connection and would like to research this further. I don't have regular access to Ancestry.com. I obtained the birth information above from familysearch.org. Thanks very much Fiona

Fiona, Here is some additional information which may be helpful. From the Journal of Rev. George Hallen, rector of St. James-on-the-Lines Anglican Church, Penetanguishene, Ontario. #573 SMITH, Ellen Baptized 20th May 1856, Ellen, daughter of Leman Smith and Mary his wife. N.B. I baptized the last three children at old Mr. Vint's Lot #16, in the 13th Conc. Township of Tiny. #90 SMITH, Harriet Ann Baptized 17th April 1840 (at Mrs. Marlow's 55th lot 1st concession, Towsnsip of Floss) Harriet Ann, daughter of Lemon Smith and Mary his wife of the 65th lot, 1st Concession, Township of Medonte. The said Harriet Ann was born 5th Feb. 1840. #147 SMITH, John Baptized 14th Dec. 1841 (at Mr. Craig's) John, son of Lemon Smith and Mary his wife of the 40th lot and 1st Concession, Township of Oro. #572 SMITH, Margaret Baptized 29th May 1856 Margaret, daughter of Leman Smith and Mary his wife. N.B. I baptized the last three children at old Mr. Vint's lot no16, in the 13th Con. Township of Tiny. #571 SMITH, William Baptized 20th May 1856 William son of Leman Smith and Mary his wife. N.B. I baptized the last three children at old Mr. Vint's Lot No16, in the 13th Conc. Township of Tiny. Note that there are no birth dates given for the three children baptized in 1856. Also, there are no other entries pertaining to Leman and Mary Smith or their children. Pam

Hi Shirl It depends what year you need. Before 1865 Canada did not require that passenger lists be kept. See http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/canada/ for a complete list of links to all online sites with ships passenger lists arriving in Canada. Lorine On 19 Jun 2010 at 16:14, Shirl wrote: > Hi friends; are there web sites where i can find the > passenger list of people who left England and came to > Canada? > > I have several that I need to hunt for. > Thanks for any hlep. > Shirl > > *********** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: > http://tr.im/hBAy > > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the > list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Follow me on Twitter http://twitter.com/LorineMS * Olive Tree Genealogy http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ [email protected] or [email protected]

Hi Shirl, Try Olive Tree, right Lorine? http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/ Dawn Message: 3 Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 16:14:38 -0400 From: "Shirl" <[email protected]> Subject: [ONTARIO] NEED PASSENGER LISTS To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi friends; are there web sites where i can find the passenger list of people who left England and came to Canada? I have several that I need to hunt for. Thanks for any hlep. Shirl

Hi Shirl, I'm sure there's more but the best one I've found is www.theshipslist.com You can also go to: http://www.cyndislist.com/ships.htm for a bunch more links. If it's ship info you're after (not so much the passengers), you can try http://shipindex.org/ Good luck with your search! Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Shirl > Sent: June 19, 2010 4:15 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ONTARIO] NEED PASSENGER LISTS > > Hi friends; are there web sites where i can find the passenger list of > people who left England and came to Canada? > > I have several that I need to hunt for. > Thanks for any hlep. > Shirl > > *********** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ONTARIO- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message

Oh yeah.  I've been scrolling through for WEEKS.  But they _are_ there.  Ancestry Library Edition has most of the lists - but their indexing is bad. wicked bad. All I knew when I started was the year.  Nothing else.  Found one (and only one) that Ancestry indexed correctly by name.  [out of 10, who came @ different times on different ships]  sigh.  I'm still missing 2 - but they are probably there.  So I am working my way through.  Take a guess - year, or ship or port.  If they give a year of immigration on a later census, BONUS.  Start there.  If someone ever told a story (my grandma said that Liverpool was a dirty city [we were actually talking about the Beatles <vbeg>] start there.  Be prepared to expand out.  And sideways.  Did they work a deal with the shipping line for the whole tribe to come over at different times?? [this is my latest scenario]. Package Deal! And there they are. Look at their homestead or land apps. Or the dates they supply on a census. You have a window there. Or the agricultural records. When did they show up? OK, trim it bsck. Work it in every direction. OTOH, this site is FANTASTIC. There are lots of ways to get there. <vbeg> Records earlier than 1850 are a real problem. I don't have a lot of encouragement on them. sigh. Marcia Kennedy @ home [@ the end of a _long_ day @ work [in a library, dammit]] in Guelph ON --- On Sat, 6/19/10, Murlel Sherlock <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Murlel Sherlock <[email protected]> > Subject: [ONTARIO] Introduction - Passenger Lists, 1865-1922 - Library and Archives Canada > To: [email protected] > Date: Saturday, June 19, 2010, 7:35 PM > Try This folks. Its the ships > manifests  1865-1922. > Muriel > > > > http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/passenger/index-e.html?PHPSESSID=hjf04curvdfpo7cl0cl4utlok4 >  > *********** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Wow, Joanna.....thank you so much for all of the info. I believe you have the right family. I had tried family-search too, but sure didn't come up with all of this! Thanks again! Karin

Fiona, do you have this marriage for Robert & Harriett? last one.... Page 183, return 175: by Rev James Preston, Wesleyan Methodist Elizah M TURNER, 24, England, Toronto, s/o Thomas W TURNER & Catherine BIBBY, married Sarah A DONOGHUE, 21, United States, Toronto, d/o Jas DONOGHUE & Martha BERRY, witn: George GRIFFIN of Toronto, 30 Jan 1864. Edward LEADLEY, 25, Canada, Toronto, s/o Henry LEADLEY & Mary RICHARDSON, married Elizabeth B UMNY, 22, England, Toronto, d/o John UMNY & Elizth KENDAL, witn: George LEADLEY of Toronto, 17 Feb 1864. George HALKER, 26, Scotland, Thorold, s/o John HALKER & Mary A GRANT, married Charlotte ELVIS, 22, England, Thorold, d/o William ELLIS & Sarah WHITELY, witn: George GIBSON of Toronto, 11 Mar 1864. William CHETTLE, 24, England, Toronto, s/o William CHETTLE & Mary OAKES, married Lydia NEWBERRY, 20, Canada, York Twp, d/o Jas NEWBERRY & Hannah COOK, witn: Jas NEWBERRY of York Twp, 09 Apr 1864. Robert Baron BRAIK, 31, Scotland, Toronto, s/o Peter BRAIK & Catherine DAVIDSON, married Harriet A SMTIH, 24, Canada, Toronto, d/o Leeman SMITH & Mary CAMPBELL, witn: Ebenezer HOLMES of Hamilton, 14 Apr 1864. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fiona Waltenberg" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 2:19 PM Subject: [ONTARIO] Help needed > Hello > > I'm hoping someone can help me.here is some background to my request: > > Mary Ann Campbell (born Scotland 1822) and Leman Smith (born New York > 1814 - > apparently) were married on 25 April 1839 in Orillia, Simco, Ontario. > Leman > and Mary Ann had 7 children: > > Harriet, born/christened 5 February 1840, Penetanguishene, Simco > John, born/christened 14 December 1841, Penetanguishene, Simco > Mary Ann, born/christened 9 July 1843, Penetanguishene, Simco > Leman, born/christened 1846, Penetanguishene, Simco Simco > Ellen, born/christened December 1848, Penetanguishene Simco > Margaret, born/christened 25 November 1850, Penetanguishene,Simco > William, born/christened 1853, Penetanguishene, Simco > > The family were Wesleyan Methodists and by 1861 I believe that they were > in > Toronto as Harriet, Mary Ann, Margaret, William and mother Mary Ann are in > the Ontario 1861 Census - Census place - Toronto, York, Ontario. I can't > find the father, Leman, in this census and it's possible that he may have > died between 1853 and 1861. > Harriet's sister Ellen was married on the same day has her and her witness > was Leman Smith though I think that this is her brother Leman, not her > father. > > Harriet A Smith married Robert Baron Braik on 14 April 1864 in York > (Toronto). Robert Braik was in the army and he and Harriet had returned to > England by 1871. On the 1871 England Census they have 3 children, Mary > Ann, > 5 yrs, Catherine, 3 yrs and Ellen, 1 month. The eldest daughter is > indicated > as born in Aldershot, England so assuming this is correct they had > returned > to England by 1865/1866. > > Catherine Braik is my great grandmother. She emigrated to Australia (from > what I can see by herself) in 1893 on the ship Taranto. > > Could anyone give me some pointers on: > > The possibility and whereabouts of the marriage record for Mary Ann and > Leman (25 April 1839). > A death record for Leman Smith, (father) > A death record for Mary Ann Smith, (mother) > Whether any shipping records might be available for Mary Ann's arrival in > Canada - I'm assuming that she would have come with her family. > Any shipping records for Robert and Harriet Braik leaving Canada. > > I would be very grateful for any help that anyone can give as I'm a bit > stuck on this Canadian connection and would like to research this further. > I > don't have regular access to Ancestry.com. I obtained the birth > information > above from familysearch.org. > > Thanks very much > > Fiona > > *********** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >