I want to remain as a subscriber. Thank you, Teri Moran rvteri@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: ont-stormont-dundas-glengarry-request <ont-stormont-dundas-glengarry-request@rootsweb.com> To: ont-stormont-dundas-glengarry <ont-stormont-dundas-glengarry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, May 9, 2018 2:50 am Subject: ONT-STORMONT-DUNDAS-GLENGARRY Digest, Vol 13, Issue 2 Send ONT-STORMONT-DUNDAS-GLENGARRY mailing list submissions to ont-stormont-dundas-glengarry@rootsweb.comTo subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject orbody 'help' to ont-stormont-dundas-glengarry-request@rootsweb.comYou can reach the person managing the list at ont-stormont-dundas-glengarry-owner@rootsweb.comWhen replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specificthan "Re: Contents of ONT-STORMONT-DUNDAS-GLENGARRY digest..."Today's Topics: 1. Fw: Wilson Family in 1861 Winchester Ont. Census (Mae and Barrie Wilkie)----------------------------------------------------------------------Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 13:15:07 -0300From: Mae and Barrie Wilkie <bmwilkie@ns.sympatico.ca>Subject: [ONT-STORMONT-DUNDAS-GLENGARRY] Fw: Wilson Family in 1861 Winchester Ont. CensusTo: <Ont-Stormont-Dundas-Glengarry@rootsweb.com>Message-ID: <159DBF2BB0DB49F8B9EC0A94EE661FC1@ownerPC>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"From: bob williams Thank you Bob for sharing your thoughts and I followed your suggestion which took me to Ontario Marriages Image 313. The marriage is the same one I got through LDS. My thinking is the original Marriage certificate would have signatures including witnesses which could tie me back to a sibling in the 1861 Winchester Census. The wedding info shows David Edward born 1860 but Later Census plus death show born 1862. There is always an answer so any suggestions are appreciated.Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 8:13 PMTo: bmwilkie@ns.sympatico.ca Subject: Fw: [ONT-STORMONT-DUNDAS-GLENGARRY] Wilson Family in 1861 Winchester Ont. CensusHi – I replied to your posting a few days ago, but it did not get through. Presumably there are still some problems with Rootsweb. Possibly others attempted to reply as well.In any case, assuming I understand your question correctly: an image of David Edward Wilson's 1881 Ontario marriage registration is now available on the FamilySearch website. I searched on David Edward Wilson, married in Ontario Canada between 1880 and 1882, and it was the first record in the results. There is a little camera button to the far right in the results. Clicking on it allows you to display the image.David Edward Wilson married Maggie Elizabeth Wilson on 6 July 1881 at the Methodist Episcopal Parsonage in Inkerman, and his parents are listed as Andrew and Sarah Wilson. Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 3:23 PMFrom: "Mae and Barrie Wilkie" <bmwilkie@ns.sympatico.ca>To: ont-stormont-dundas-glengarry@rootsweb.comSubject: [ONT-STORMONT-DUNDAS-GLENGARRY] Wilson Family in 1861 Winchester Ont. CensusAndrew & Sarah Wilson parents of William, Letice (Letitia), Marey, Andrew, Sarah, Thomas, James, John, Elizabeth are listed in 1861 Winchester census but not in any later census that I could locate.. There are Baptism & Marriage records from the general area of their children but no census records or their death records.My Great Grandfather David Edward Wilson was married in 1881 in Mountain, living in Cornwall, born in Winchester to Andrew & Sarah per LDS wedding info but also not enumerated that year. David Edward, wife and children were enumerated in Kemptville Ont. in 1891. Death info states his birth year as 1862.My belief that David Edward is a sibling of the above parents is a mythology until I prove the connection. The LDS wedding info does not show witnesses but a copy of the original possibly would. Through SD&G I gratefully received a a lot of valuable information a few years ago.Your assistance is appreciated in helping make the connection.Barrie ------------------------------Subject: Digest FooterTo contact the %(real_name)s list administrator, send an email to%(real_name)s-admin@rootsweb.com.To post a message to the ONT-STORMONT-DUNDAS-GLENGARRY mailing list -- ont-stormont-dundas-glengarry@rootsweb.com, send an email to %(real_name)s@rootsweb.com.__________________________________________________________To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to %(real_name)s-request@%(host_name)swith the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of theemail with no additional text.------------------------------End of ONT-STORMONT-DUNDAS-GLENGARRY Digest, Vol 13, Issue 2************************************************************

From: bob williams Thank you Bob for sharing your thoughts and I followed your suggestion which took me to Ontario Marriages Image 313. The marriage is the same one I got through LDS. My thinking is the original Marriage certificate would have signatures including witnesses which could tie me back to a sibling in the 1861 Winchester Census. The wedding info shows David Edward born 1860 but Later Census plus death show born 1862. There is always an answer so any suggestions are appreciated. Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 8:13 PM To: bmwilkie@ns.sympatico.ca Subject: Fw: [ONT-STORMONT-DUNDAS-GLENGARRY] Wilson Family in 1861 Winchester Ont. Census Hi – I replied to your posting a few days ago, but it did not get through. Presumably there are still some problems with Rootsweb. Possibly others attempted to reply as well. In any case, assuming I understand your question correctly: an image of David Edward Wilson's 1881 Ontario marriage registration is now available on the FamilySearch website. I searched on David Edward Wilson, married in Ontario Canada between 1880 and 1882, and it was the first record in the results. There is a little camera button to the far right in the results. Clicking on it allows you to display the image. David Edward Wilson married Maggie Elizabeth Wilson on 6 July 1881 at the Methodist Episcopal Parsonage in Inkerman, and his parents are listed as Andrew and Sarah Wilson. Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 3:23 PM From: "Mae and Barrie Wilkie" <bmwilkie@ns.sympatico.ca> To: ont-stormont-dundas-glengarry@rootsweb.com Subject: [ONT-STORMONT-DUNDAS-GLENGARRY] Wilson Family in 1861 Winchester Ont. Census Andrew & Sarah Wilson parents of William, Letice (Letitia), Marey, Andrew, Sarah, Thomas, James, John, Elizabeth are listed in 1861 Winchester census but not in any later census that I could locate.. There are Baptism & Marriage records from the general area of their children but no census records or their death records. My Great Grandfather David Edward Wilson was married in 1881 in Mountain, living in Cornwall, born in Winchester to Andrew & Sarah per LDS wedding info but also not enumerated that year. David Edward, wife and children were enumerated in Kemptville Ont. in 1891. Death info states his birth year as 1862. My belief that David Edward is a sibling of the above parents is a mythology until I prove the connection. The LDS wedding info does not show witnesses but a copy of the original possibly would. Through SD&G I gratefully received a a lot of valuable information a few years ago. Your assistance is appreciated in helping make the connection. Barrie

March 13, 2018 Group, I have been absolutely frustrated chasing my tail for several decades trying to extend earlier information on John Collison UEL 1765 -1826. John is my gr gr gr grandfather. . The only earlier information I have purportedly is:: John was born in Ireland in 1765. Date and Parents - unknown ? Enlisting with the British in the American Revolution on 1 September 1778 , as a "Drummer" in the King's Royal Regiment of New York (KRRNY), [Note: Drummers and phifers: They were mostly young, but the ages ran the spectrum. Soldiers were mostly in their late teens or twenties when they enlisted, although soldiers could be as young as 15. Drummers and fifers were as young as nine. ] Discharged in 24 December 1783. The first settlers of Captain Munro Company, and mainly Anglicans landed in the County of Dundas, Ontario Canada on the 20th of June 1784. Each officer received 5000 acres of land; each captain 3000 acres, each sub-altern 2000; each non commissioned officer and private 200 acres plus 50 for his wife and 50 for each child . Married Hannah Hough 1785 or 1786..[ entry; provisions list #2 1786 ] Anglican Episcopal Church,Diocese of Ottawa shows the following entry for John : Died 22 Oct 1826; buried 24 October 1826. John Collison age 61 years of age Matilda, born in the year 1765. Liber "B". Burial Registry Matilda; Anyone having earlier additional factual information please answer to this query. I need any and all you may have - - THANK YOU ! Lloyd Collison ke6iyl@juno.com ____________________________________________________________ 1 Simple Trick Removes Eye Bags & Lip Lines in Seconds Fit Mom Daily http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5aa844066c3e544065593st01vuc

Andrew & Sarah Wilson parents of William, Letice (Letitia), Marey, Andrew, Sarah, Thomas, James, John, Elizabeth are listed in 1861 Winchester census but not in any later census that I could locate.. There are Baptism & Marriage records from the general area of their children but no census records or their death records. My Great Grandfather David Edward Wilson was married in 1881 in Mountain, living in Cornwall, born in Winchester to Andrew & Sarah per LDS wedding info but also not enumerated that year. David Edward, wife and children were enumerated in Kemptville Ont. in 1891. Death info states his birth year as 1862. My belief that David Edward is a sibling of the above parents is a mythology until I prove the connection. The LDS wedding info does not show witnesses but a copy of the original possibly would. Through SD&G I gratefully received a a lot of valuable information a few years ago. Your assistance is appreciated in helping make the connection. Barrie

Hi Dave [and Lily]. I believe Lily is correct. Here's Alexander D Kippen's marriage record [Ontario records from Family Search] to Jessie Munroe. Other information in the record of Alexander D Kippen and Jessie Munroe from Ontario Marriages Name Alexander D Kippen <https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KSZT-26P> Event Type Marriage Event Date 24 May 1910 Event Place Cornwall, Stormont, Ontario, Canada Gender Male Age 26 Birth Year (Estimated) 1884 Father's Name Duncan Kippen Mother's Name Lizzie Kennedy <https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KSZT-26R> Spouse's Name Jessie Munroe <https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KSZT-26T> Spouse's Gender Female Spouse's Age 25 Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated) 1885 Spouse's Father's Name Philip Munroe <https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KSZT-26Y> Spouse's Mother's Name Mary A Mclennan <https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KSZT-26B> Duncan & Elizabeth are buried in the Maxville Community Cemetery. Duncan Kippen Died May 16, 1927 Age 92 Yrs His wife Elizabeth Kennedy Died May 19, 1913 Age 71 years Their son Peter Kippen Died Sept 29 1913 Age 35 yrs Malcolm Kippen 1872 - 1936 More later [I hope] as I have time. I'm a Kennedy descendant from SD&G, so your Mabel & I are probably related. Marcia Kennedy now in Wheatley Ontario formerly lived in Cornwall and a whole lot of other places > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2018 22:40:19 -0600 > From: Dogman <drobins2@gmail.com> > Subject: [ONT-STORMONT-DUNDAS-GLENGARRY] Mabel Kippen > > Look for any information on a Mabel Kippen b 1915 d 1941 married Albert > ​ > or AJ McIntyre. They had 3 infant childen pass away. Have that info but > ​ > no other. > father Duncan Kippen 1836-1927 > mother Elizabeth Kenndy 1842-1913 > brothers: Stanley > Harold Malcom kia 1944 > Hugh > Peter > Duncan > William > Sisters: Gladys > Mary Christina > > Any information on Mabel would be helpful. Thank you for taking time to > look into this. > > Helping out my sister in law find out about her mother. She knows very > ​ > little as she passed away when my sister in law was a little girl. > > Thank you. > > Dave > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 21:44:53 -0400 > From: Lily Worrall <genealogist.lily@cogeco.ca> > Subject: [ONT-STORMONT-DUNDAS-GLENGARRY] Re: Mabel Kippen > > Hi, Just a few thoughts… > > I believe Alexander D. Kippen son of Duncan & Elizabeth Kennedy is the > father of Mabel Kippen. Alex can be found on the 1921 census. [just google > "1921 Census Canada” without the quotes. And choose the National Archives > site. > > E. Jessie is wife of Alex and there are six children. Mabel’s name is > covered by the handwriting on the line above, but it is, I believe Mabel E. > Kippen born ca 1914 she is 7 in 1921. > > It’s a start > ~Lily > >

Thank you On Mar 12, 2018 9:45 PM, "Lily Worrall" <genealogist.lily@cogeco.ca> wrote: > Hi, Just a few thoughts… > > I believe Alexander D. Kippen son of Duncan & Elizabeth Kennedy is the > father of Mabel Kippen. Alex can be found on the 1921 census. [just google > "1921 Census Canada” without the quotes. And choose the National Archives > site. > > E. Jessie is wife of Alex and there are six children. Mabel’s name is > covered by the handwriting on the line above, but it is, I believe Mabel E. > Kippen born ca 1914 she is 7 in 1921. > > It’s a start > ~Lily > > > > > > > On Mar 12, 2018, at 12:40 AM, Dogman <drobins2@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Look for any information on a Mabel Kippen b 1915 d 1941 married > Albert > > or AJ McIntyre. They had 3 infant childen pass away. Have that info but > > no other. > > > > > > father Duncan Kippen 1836-1927 > > mother Elizabeth Kenndy 1842-1913 > > > > brothers: Stanley > > Harold Malcom kia 1944 > > Hugh > > Peter > > Duncan > > William > > Sisters: Gladys > > Mary Christina > > > > Any information on Mabel would be helpful. Thank you for taking time to > > look into this. > > > > Helping out my sister in law find out about her mother. She knows very > > little as she passed away when my sister in law was a little girl. > > > > Thank you. > > > > Dave > > > > > >

Hi, Just a few thoughts… I believe Alexander D. Kippen son of Duncan & Elizabeth Kennedy is the father of Mabel Kippen. Alex can be found on the 1921 census. [just google "1921 Census Canada” without the quotes. And choose the National Archives site. E. Jessie is wife of Alex and there are six children. Mabel’s name is covered by the handwriting on the line above, but it is, I believe Mabel E. Kippen born ca 1914 she is 7 in 1921. It’s a start ~Lily > On Mar 12, 2018, at 12:40 AM, Dogman <drobins2@gmail.com> wrote: > > Look for any information on a Mabel Kippen b 1915 d 1941 married Albert > or AJ McIntyre. They had 3 infant childen pass away. Have that info but > no other. > > > father Duncan Kippen 1836-1927 > mother Elizabeth Kenndy 1842-1913 > > brothers: Stanley > Harold Malcom kia 1944 > Hugh > Peter > Duncan > William > Sisters: Gladys > Mary Christina > > Any information on Mabel would be helpful. Thank you for taking time to > look into this. > > Helping out my sister in law find out about her mother. She knows very > little as she passed away when my sister in law was a little girl. > > Thank you. > > Dave > >

Look for any information on a Mabel Kippen b 1915 d 1941 married Albert or AJ McIntyre. They had 3 infant childen pass away. Have that info but no other. father Duncan Kippen 1836-1927 mother Elizabeth Kenndy 1842-1913 brothers: Stanley Harold Malcom kia 1944 Hugh Peter Duncan William Sisters: Gladys Mary Christina Any information on Mabel would be helpful. Thank you for taking time to look into this. Helping out my sister in law find out about her mother. She knows very little as she passed away when my sister in law was a little girl. Thank you. Dave

Many thanx to all who have responded to my post! In learning that James Nathaniel was likely buried at Woodlawn Cemetery rather than at Moulinette, the next step is to contact Woodlawn. I am hoping the cemetery has a logbook, as my grandmother (Olive's sister) is known to be buried there in an unmarked plot - maybe James N. and Olive are also unmarked. Finding Olive's death date remains a significant problem, as knowing or approximating that date would simplify a search of a cemetery logbook. Hopefully, Olive will be recorded as buried near her husband or son (Pvt. James Francis Groves, d. 1946). Best regards to all,Mike  From: Kathryn Johnson Joly <kathrynjoly@gmail.com> To: ROBERT MINTER <keziah1@rogers.com>; "ont-stormont-dundas-glengarry@rootsweb.com" <ont-stormont-dundas-glengarry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 8, 2017 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [ONT-STORMONT-DUNDAS-GLENGARRY] James Nathan GROVES & Olive Gordon WALTON Hi: It is called, "Data on Existing Cemeteries in the United Counties of Dundas and Stormont affected by the St. Lawrence Power Project" compiled by James A. Smart, O.B.E for the Hydro-Electric Power Commission of Ontario, April 1956. Some of the introductory text appears on the following website: http://www.stlawrencevalleycemetery.ca/history.html It was also referenced in a UELAC newsletter: http://www.uelac.org/Loyalist-Trails/2008/Loyalist-Trails- 2008.php?issue=200846#Cemeteries You might be able to find a copy in a local library or be able to purchase it from the link shown above. Hope this helps, Kathryn On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 3:11 PM, ROBERT MINTER <keziah1@rogers.com> wrote: > Kathryn, would you be able to supply the title of your resource?Thanks, > Penny Minter > >      From: Kathryn Johnson Joly <kathrynjoly@gmail.com> >  To: Michael De Vouge <devouges50@rogers.com>; " > ont-stormont-dundas-glengarry@rootsweb.com" <ont-stormont-dundas-glengarry > @rootsweb.com> >  Sent: Friday, December 8, 2017 10:14 AM >  Subject: Re: [ONT-STORMONT-DUNDAS-GLENGARRY] James Nathan GROVES & Olive > Gordon WALTON > > Hi: > > I have checked a copyrighted resource that I purchased and wasn't able to > find any "Groves" in the cemeteries attached to Christ Church Anglican or > St. Andrews United in Moulinette. That being said, there are quite a few > notations like "unreadable", "no marker", "broken stone" on the > transcription. > > I did find two "Groves" in the Maple Grove transcription: James (1796-1884) > and George (d. 1878). I believe they would be the sons of John Groves and > Abigail Parks. > > There is a preamble in the document that explains that many burial > locations were marked with wooden crosses, which deteriorated over time. It > is also mentioned that a very soft stone was once used and the markings > eroded with the harsh weather or the stones crumbled. > > The Ontario Cemetery Finding Aid shows some "Groves" at Woodlawn Cemetery, > which is where the death record of James N. shows his burial location > (superimposed over Maple Grove as the previous person mentioned). > > There are also a few "Groves" at St. Lawrence Valley Union near Long Sault, > but no James or Olive. > > I have been doing research in Stormont and Dundas Counties for many years > and it can be challenging given that 18 cemeteries were impacted by the > Seaway. I am also unable to locate some of my ancestors' final resting > places. > > Best of luck with your research... > > Kathryn > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 6:52 PM, Michael De Vouge <devouges50@rogers.com> > wrote: > > > Hello, > > I am searching for particulars relating to the death of Olive Gordon > > (Walton) Groves (b. 4 Aug 1889, India), 2nd wife of James Nathan(iel) > > Groves. > > James N. is known to have lived at Moulinette at the time of his death, > 29 > > Aug 1935. Olive was apparently alive as of 1946, but a gravesite cannot > be > > found. I suspect she may have lived at Moulinette until her death and > both > > of them may have been buried in a cemetery that is now under the Seaway, > as > > Find A Grave cannot locate this couple. > > Is there any resource available that identifies who was buried in those > > cemeteries which were not moved? > > Regards,Mike De Vouge > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ONT-STORMONT-DUNDAS-GLENGARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ONT-STORMONT-DUNDAS-GLENGARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ONT-STORMONT-DUNDAS-GLENGARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ONT-STORMONT-DUNDAS-GLENGARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kathryn, would you be able to supply the title of your resource?Thanks, Penny Minter From: Kathryn Johnson Joly <kathrynjoly@gmail.com> To: Michael De Vouge <devouges50@rogers.com>; "ont-stormont-dundas-glengarry@rootsweb.com" <ont-stormont-dundas-glengarry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 8, 2017 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [ONT-STORMONT-DUNDAS-GLENGARRY] James Nathan GROVES & Olive Gordon WALTON Hi: I have checked a copyrighted resource that I purchased and wasn't able to find any "Groves" in the cemeteries attached to Christ Church Anglican or St. Andrews United in Moulinette. That being said, there are quite a few notations like "unreadable", "no marker", "broken stone" on the transcription. I did find two "Groves" in the Maple Grove transcription: James (1796-1884) and George (d. 1878). I believe they would be the sons of John Groves and Abigail Parks. There is a preamble in the document that explains that many burial locations were marked with wooden crosses, which deteriorated over time. It is also mentioned that a very soft stone was once used and the markings eroded with the harsh weather or the stones crumbled. The Ontario Cemetery Finding Aid shows some "Groves" at Woodlawn Cemetery, which is where the death record of James N. shows his burial location (superimposed over Maple Grove as the previous person mentioned). There are also a few "Groves" at St. Lawrence Valley Union near Long Sault, but no James or Olive. I have been doing research in Stormont and Dundas Counties for many years and it can be challenging given that 18 cemeteries were impacted by the Seaway. I am also unable to locate some of my ancestors' final resting places. Best of luck with your research... Kathryn On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 6:52 PM, Michael De Vouge <devouges50@rogers.com> wrote: > Hello, > I am searching for particulars relating to the death of Olive Gordon > (Walton) Groves (b. 4 Aug 1889, India), 2nd wife of James Nathan(iel) > Groves. > James N. is known to have lived at Moulinette at the time of his death, 29 > Aug 1935. Olive was apparently alive as of 1946, but a gravesite cannot be > found. I suspect she may have lived at Moulinette until her death and both > of them may have been buried in a cemetery that is now under the Seaway, as > Find A Grave cannot locate this couple. > Is there any resource available that identifies who was buried in those > cemeteries which were not moved? > Regards,Mike De Vouge > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ONT-STORMONT-DUNDAS-GLENGARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ONT-STORMONT-DUNDAS-GLENGARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi: It is called, "Data on Existing Cemeteries in the United Counties of Dundas and Stormont affected by the St. Lawrence Power Project" compiled by James A. Smart, O.B.E for the Hydro-Electric Power Commission of Ontario, April 1956. Some of the introductory text appears on the following website: http://www.stlawrencevalleycemetery.ca/history.html It was also referenced in a UELAC newsletter: http://www.uelac.org/Loyalist-Trails/2008/Loyalist-Trails- 2008.php?issue=200846#Cemeteries You might be able to find a copy in a local library or be able to purchase it from the link shown above. Hope this helps, Kathryn On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 3:11 PM, ROBERT MINTER <keziah1@rogers.com> wrote: > Kathryn, would you be able to supply the title of your resource?Thanks, > Penny Minter > > From: Kathryn Johnson Joly <kathrynjoly@gmail.com> > To: Michael De Vouge <devouges50@rogers.com>; " > ont-stormont-dundas-glengarry@rootsweb.com" <ont-stormont-dundas-glengarry > @rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, December 8, 2017 10:14 AM > Subject: Re: [ONT-STORMONT-DUNDAS-GLENGARRY] James Nathan GROVES & Olive > Gordon WALTON > > Hi: > > I have checked a copyrighted resource that I purchased and wasn't able to > find any "Groves" in the cemeteries attached to Christ Church Anglican or > St. Andrews United in Moulinette. That being said, there are quite a few > notations like "unreadable", "no marker", "broken stone" on the > transcription. > > I did find two "Groves" in the Maple Grove transcription: James (1796-1884) > and George (d. 1878). I believe they would be the sons of John Groves and > Abigail Parks. > > There is a preamble in the document that explains that many burial > locations were marked with wooden crosses, which deteriorated over time. It > is also mentioned that a very soft stone was once used and the markings > eroded with the harsh weather or the stones crumbled. > > The Ontario Cemetery Finding Aid shows some "Groves" at Woodlawn Cemetery, > which is where the death record of James N. shows his burial location > (superimposed over Maple Grove as the previous person mentioned). > > There are also a few "Groves" at St. Lawrence Valley Union near Long Sault, > but no James or Olive. > > I have been doing research in Stormont and Dundas Counties for many years > and it can be challenging given that 18 cemeteries were impacted by the > Seaway. I am also unable to locate some of my ancestors' final resting > places. > > Best of luck with your research... > > Kathryn > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 6:52 PM, Michael De Vouge <devouges50@rogers.com> > wrote: > > > Hello, > > I am searching for particulars relating to the death of Olive Gordon > > (Walton) Groves (b. 4 Aug 1889, India), 2nd wife of James Nathan(iel) > > Groves. > > James N. is known to have lived at Moulinette at the time of his death, > 29 > > Aug 1935. Olive was apparently alive as of 1946, but a gravesite cannot > be > > found. I suspect she may have lived at Moulinette until her death and > both > > of them may have been buried in a cemetery that is now under the Seaway, > as > > Find A Grave cannot locate this couple. > > Is there any resource available that identifies who was buried in those > > cemeteries which were not moved? > > Regards,Mike De Vouge > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ONT-STORMONT-DUNDAS-GLENGARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ONT-STORMONT-DUNDAS-GLENGARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ONT-STORMONT-DUNDAS-GLENGARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The Ontario death registration for a James Oliver Groves of Moulinette in 1935 is available on FamilySearch. The burial place on the form is difficult to read. I think it originally said Maple Grove, and then had Woodlawn Cemetery written over top. Have a look and see what you think. There could be obituaries in the Cornwall Standard Freeholder for James and Olive, which might give a burial location, but I believe microfilm of that paper is only available at the Cornwall Public Library and Library and Archives Canada. Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 at 6:52 PM From: "Michael De Vouge" <devouges50@rogers.com> To: "ont-stormont-dundas-glengarry@rootsweb.com" <ont-stormont-dundas-glengarry@rootsweb.com> Subject: [ONT-STORMONT-DUNDAS-GLENGARRY] James Nathan GROVES & Olive Gordon WALTON Hello, I am searching for particulars relating to the death of Olive Gordon (Walton) Groves (b. 4 Aug 1889, India), 2nd wife of James Nathan(iel) Groves. James N. is known to have lived at Moulinette at the time of his death, 29 Aug 1935. Olive was apparently alive as of 1946, but a gravesite cannot be found. I suspect she may have lived at Moulinette until her death and both of them may have been buried in a cemetery that is now under the Seaway, as Find A Grave cannot locate this couple. Is there any resource available that identifies who was buried in those cemeteries which were not moved? Regards,Mike De Vouge ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ONT-STORMONT-DUNDAS-GLENGARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi: I have checked a copyrighted resource that I purchased and wasn't able to find any "Groves" in the cemeteries attached to Christ Church Anglican or St. Andrews United in Moulinette. That being said, there are quite a few notations like "unreadable", "no marker", "broken stone" on the transcription. I did find two "Groves" in the Maple Grove transcription: James (1796-1884) and George (d. 1878). I believe they would be the sons of John Groves and Abigail Parks. There is a preamble in the document that explains that many burial locations were marked with wooden crosses, which deteriorated over time. It is also mentioned that a very soft stone was once used and the markings eroded with the harsh weather or the stones crumbled. The Ontario Cemetery Finding Aid shows some "Groves" at Woodlawn Cemetery, which is where the death record of James N. shows his burial location (superimposed over Maple Grove as the previous person mentioned). There are also a few "Groves" at St. Lawrence Valley Union near Long Sault, but no James or Olive. I have been doing research in Stormont and Dundas Counties for many years and it can be challenging given that 18 cemeteries were impacted by the Seaway. I am also unable to locate some of my ancestors' final resting places. Best of luck with your research... Kathryn On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 6:52 PM, Michael De Vouge <devouges50@rogers.com> wrote: > Hello, > I am searching for particulars relating to the death of Olive Gordon > (Walton) Groves (b. 4 Aug 1889, India), 2nd wife of James Nathan(iel) > Groves. > James N. is known to have lived at Moulinette at the time of his death, 29 > Aug 1935. Olive was apparently alive as of 1946, but a gravesite cannot be > found. I suspect she may have lived at Moulinette until her death and both > of them may have been buried in a cemetery that is now under the Seaway, as > Find A Grave cannot locate this couple. > Is there any resource available that identifies who was buried in those > cemeteries which were not moved? > Regards,Mike De Vouge > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ONT-STORMONT-DUNDAS-GLENGARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I am searching for particulars relating to the death of Olive Gordon (Walton) Groves (b. 4 Aug 1889, India), 2nd wife of James Nathan(iel) Groves. James N. is known to have lived at Moulinette at the time of his death, 29 Aug 1935. Olive was apparently alive as of 1946, but a gravesite cannot be found. I suspect she may have lived at Moulinette until her death and both of them may have been buried in a cemetery that is now under the Seaway, as Find A Grave cannot locate this couple.  Is there any resource available that identifies who was buried in those cemeteries which were not moved? Regards,Mike De Vouge

I'm sorry. I don't think I know him Jim

Hi Mike, I hope you do find a list of those who are still at the bottom of the SL Seaway, I've been looking for Odet's for a long time. I found some Odet/Audet's at the cemeteries that were not flooded but no luck at Dickinson's Landing and surrounding areas. Good Luck Barb Odette > On December 6, 2017 at 5:52 PM Michael De Vouge wrote: > > > Hello, > I am searching for particulars relating to the death of Olive Gordon (Walton) Groves (b. 4 Aug 1889, India), 2nd wife of James Nathan(iel) Groves. > James N. is known to have lived at Moulinette at the time of his death, 29 Aug 1935. Olive was apparently alive as of 1946, but a gravesite cannot be found. I suspect she may have lived at Moulinette until her death and both of them may have been buried in a cemetery that is now under the Seaway, as Find A Grave cannot locate this couple. > Is there any resource available that identifies who was buried in those cemeteries which were not moved? > Regards,Mike De Vouge > > --------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ONT-STORMONT-DUNDAS-GLENGARRY-request@rootsweb.com mailto:ONT-STORMONT-DUNDAS-GLENGARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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