DAD I will apoligize for my math AGAIN but I can remember,,,,oh forget it ............ Alan you're right we could have up to 8 generations between us by now.... consideringi 1800s for a female to be 13 and not someones fiance' or someone new bride she be considered a old maid or spinster now I'LL go back to lurk mode Sorry for sticking my 2 cents in I forgot myself and what list I was writing to Kathy ONEAL › º                                        °°  °°                                °°           °°          °°  °     >>))>}}°> ªª ° °°° Go in PEACE,,,, >>}>}}°> °° ° >>}}>)°>