In a message dated 1/13/00 9:40:28 AM !!!First Boot!!!, oneall@in2p3.fr writes: << The John O'Neall mentioned is the 6th child of Hugh O'Neill. I also would be interested in any more info you may find on this gentleman or your John. May I ask what your source is for the info you sent? >> Hi John, Thanks for your response. I really appreciate the information and your comments. My John O'Neill ca. 1745-1801, is indeed a mystery, but I wonder if the John O'Neill who died in 1781 was really a son of the immigrant Hugh O'Neill. I know it has been recorded that he was the son, but there seems to be many facts that would indicate he was not, for the following reasons; 1. The Jury Lists for South Carolina, 1778-1779, show that in the Little River area of South Carolina, there were 2 individuals named John ONeal. One of these lived near Hugh ONeal, the Quaker and Patriot (non-combatant) and the other John ONeal lived near Henry ONeal, the Loyalist and Tory. Since a Quaker and a Tory or officer in the British Army would be a contradiction in terms, this 2nd John ONeal may have been a cousin of Henry and not the son of Hugh O'Neill. Although Henry does seem to be a son of Hugh O'Neill the Immigrant. 2. The names of the children of John ONeal the Tory do not provide any helpful leads to his identity, but the children of John ONeal the Quaker, have the same naming pattern as does the immigrant Hugh O'Neill. (Hugh, John, Henry) Both have girls named Sarah. 3. Based on the Quaker records of South Carolina, it seems evident that my John O'Neill was a Quaker and so were his children and grandchildren, who all appear in the Quaker records as well as the Census records for 1790, 1800 and 1810. My sources for the research of John O'Neill include the following; 1. Land Deed Records, Union County, South Carolina. 2. Jury Lists, South Carolina, 1718-1783. 3. Jury Lists, South Carolina, 1778-1779. 4. Quaker Records, South Carolina. 5. The will of John O'Neill, June 2, 1801, July 13, 1801, Union County, South Carolina, which names his wife and children as well as 4 sons-in-law. 6. Taxpayer lists, 96 District and Union County, South Carolina. 7. U.S. Census, 1790, 1800, 1810 for Union County, South Carolina. I have seen the lineage of Jill O'Neall Ching and other information on that marvelous website for O'Neills, but based on all of my searching, it does seem to me that John O'Neill the Quaker is a better fit into the Hugh O'Neill family than is JohnO'Neill the Tory. It's very hard to imagine that a true Scotch-Irish would be loyal to the Crown, when you consider their past history. My John O'Neill moved into the area between the Pacolet River and Fairforest Creek (near Spartanburg County) at the close of the Revolutionary War. As a Tory, he could not have survived in that area, which was a hotbed of Scotch-Irish Rebels. I would appreciate any comments, corrections or any other information that you or anyone could furnish regarding the O'Neills of South Carolina. Best Regards, James E. Hargraves