Cheryl, I tried to acess the www.ancestry.com below and was unable to get in. Is this the correct address? Thanks, Trisha ---------- >From: "Cheryl White" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: Fw: [ONEALL-L] From ancestry.com >Date: Sat, Sep 19, 1998, 7:33 AM > >---------- >> From: Cheryl White <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [ONEALL-L] From ancestry.com >> Date: Friday, September 18, 1998 11:09 PM >> >> Hi Richard, >> This information came from a book at ancestry.com. It is free online >right >> now at www.ancestry.com Just click on new data bases then click on the >> book title named below, type in the surname you want and voila. I think >> that the 1880 you noticed should indeed be 1780 after all he died well >> before 1880. That was the way it was written and I did copy and paste. >> The books at ancestry have some atrocious typists ha ha. As far as the >> ultimo. I'm not sure what that means. If you find out would appreciate >> your letting me know. Other dates I've seen also use the word instant. >> Could ulitomo and instant mean month before or that month? One of the >> deaths mentioned a couple before his was for the month of Sept. If >anyone >> knows what the words ultimo or instant means can ya help us out and let >us >> know. >> Cheryl White >> [email protected] >> http://www.angelfire.com/me/geneal >> ICQ #7239631 >> IM Cheryl gen >> >> ---------- >> > From: Richard O'Neill <[email protected]> >> > To: [email protected] >> > Subject: Re: [ONEALL-L] From ancestry.com >> > Date: Friday, September 18, 1998 10:51 PM >> > >> > >> > Cheryl, >> > >> > I'm very interested in this posting as I think you have uncovered an >> > ancestor of mine. Can you double check the date he "entered the >> > mercantile business." Could it be 1780? Also, if the date of the >> > article is 11-10-1848, in what month did he die (...the 18th >ultimo...)? >> > >> > Thank you for the reference! >> > >> > Richard O'NEILL (AKA Richard "O") >> > San Antonio, TX >> > [email protected] >

List members, I need help I have lost the url to the web site of "The Irish Family O'Neill" if you have please post it. Thanks, Dennis O'Neal

HELP!!! I'm trying to trace the following people John O'Neal 1853 Wyoming CO. WV Giles Henderson O'Neal mid 1800 Wyoming Co. WV. Nickatie Cherokee O'Neal born Sept.11,1888 or85. Wyoming Co. WV. All of the above may be Raleigh Co. If anyone has info. please contact me . [email protected] Thanks Mary

I don't know if I've posted this all before or not, but just saw Mary's post of a John O'Neal and a Giles Henderson O'Neal. They are in the wrong part of the country for me (WV) but I was struck my Giles' middle name of Henderson as I think it is a bit unusual. My great grandfather was a HENDERSON O'NEAL, (born abt 1811 in NC) who in 1830 married one REBECAH HORTON (b abt 1813). They had 7 children to the best of my knowledge: JOHN O'NEAL 1833 NC FRANCES ' b 1836 ? SIDNEY ' b1837 NC THOMAS b 1842 NC MICHAEL CADGER DEE HAWKINS O'NEAL b Nov 19 1846 NC CAROLlNE b 1848 AR SAMUEL b 1852 AR After Rebecah died, HENDERSON married NANCY KILNER (born in TN) (mother of my grandfather) in 1862. She was 32, he was 57. Their children were" MARTHA O'Neal born about 1864 in AR ZACHARIAH O'Neal born 1865 in AR (known to us as ZACK R.) There was listed also a SUSAN O'NEAL born in 1858 in TN, who may/may not have been Nancy's daughter from a previous marriage. I don't know if Nancy's maiden name was Kilner or not. All of the above is correct to the best of my ability. Corrections, additions or questions are welcome. Emma

no, of william o'neall and mary frost. john |-----Original Message----- |From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] |Sent: dimanche 20 septembre 1998 19:15 |To: [email protected] |Subject: Re: Fw: [ONEALL-L] From ancestry.com | | |Hello, |Is the Hugh O'Neal m. to Anne Kelly the son of HUGH and MARY PARKINS? | |Thanks |Brenda |[email protected] | |

Thanks Jim, Yes, that clears it up and gives me some new info. to enter on my O'Neals. Thanks so much!! You're always coming to my rescue! So glad we have such an on the ball, researcher on the list!! Brenda [email protected]

List~ Some of this type of ancestral material is included in the O'Neall Cousins Project and the attached database at the site: http://www.maui.net/~mauifun/hugh.htm including how the O'Neall name became Neal, O'Neil etc for some descendants. Corrections/additions always welcomed. Jill : Do you have the names of the four daughters of Hugh and Anne Kelly : O'Neal : [email protected] :

Brenda ~ This Hugh O'Neall, married to Anne Kelly was the son of William O'Neall my ancestor. The Hugh O'Neall married to Mary Parkins was the brother of the above William and the son of Hugh O'Neill/O'Neall married to Anne Cox. Hope this clears that up. Jim [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, September 20, 1998 12:18 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [ONEALL-L] From ancestry.com >Hello, >Is the Hugh O'Neal m. to Anne Kelly the son of HUGH and MARY PARKINS? > >Thanks >Brenda >[email protected] >

In a message dated 9/18/98 11:21:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << To be brief, Njal's saga dates from oral stories told around the year 900, whereas Nial of the 9 Hostages lived in, if I remember correctly, the 400s. Would sound more like a Celtic export to Scandinavia that the other way around, based on the saga. But when was the god worshiped? >> Jon, Yes, I only used "Njal's Saga" as an example of the name. This Norse god is no doubt from antiquity. Bob O'Neal in Tacoma

In a message dated 9/20/98 9:17:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << I was born in 1918 in Pittsburgh but I grew up in Eastern Ohio. Both of my parents were born in County Antrim so I am a first generation American. >> Bill, Thank you for your kind reply. I too was born in Pennsylvania (New Castle) and I too grew up in Eastern Ohio: Wintersville, Jefferson Co Ohio, a small town just six miles from Steubenville. My grandparents (mother's side) lived in Washington Co, Marietta, Ohio and we visited them every year in the summer from 1938 to 1954, when we moved back to Pittsburgh. I took Ohio state civics in school, so I am an indoctrinated Ohioan. (Round on both ends and 'hi' in the middle.) On your comments; What you wrote is somewhat familiar to me as I have been focusing on Antrim in my research from time to time. I have run across the town of Balleymena, but there is also an "administrative region" called Ballymena. I assume you refer to the town. I am not sure of the parishes ("administrative districts"?). Is Skelly a town or parish? On my Antrim map I find Skerry as an area (as you say a parish) due northwest of Ballymena town. I can only find the town of Ballymena on my map. I can not find Loughconnelly or Tecloy or Carnlough (towns?) either. Are these places close to Ballymena? Are these "administrative regions" similar to our townships as in Ohio? I alos have thought that our immigrant ancestor could have been from the Clandeboye O'Neill branch. The reason that they are Protestant is covered in several histories and genealogies. Apparently, some of them were allowed to keep some their lands as they had turned Protestant and their leader, the Clandeboye O'Neill had fought against the 'rebel' O'Neill and been knighted. I have read about these confusing back-and-forth-and-back battles, skirmishes, plots, and massacres in "A History of Ulster", by Jonathon Bardon (Blackstaff Press:Belfast 1994) and in "History of the Name O'Neill" by J.D. Williams, (History House Publ.: Ennis, Co.Clare, 1983). It is terribly confusing to trace any one family through all these decades of fighting, as they appear to switch sides with abandon. The best reference I have seen is Margaret Dickson Falley's two great volumes, "Irish and Scotch-Irish Ancestral Research, (GPC:Baltimore, 1988). For example, of possible interest to you, on page 410, Vol.2, under "Presbyterian Church Records in the Public Record Office of Northern Ireland, Belfast" (PRONI) it lists "Buckna, Co.Antrim, Baptismal Register, Buckna Presbyterian Church, 1841-1850. Transcript." I have some more questions for you: 1. How far back in time have you been able to trace your O'Neills? William O'Neill (ca.1841-1914), Arthur O'Neill (1888-1976), William Stuart O'Neil (1918- ) 2. What places other than Ballymena, Skerry, Tecloy, Loughconnelly in N.I. did your ancestors live? Is Skerry also a town or village? 3. Have you done any genealogical research, esp. in the Presbyterian Church parish records in Ballymena/Skerry/Antrim? That would be fertile ground I'm thinking. In all my 14 years of researching the name, I have always been told that the records in Ireland esp. before 1800s are all local, and that one MUST have a place name to start research and find any kind of family connection in Ireland. 4. When was the last time you were over there? We are planning this coming year or next to go to N.I. My wife is from Norway and we were married in Oslo in 1964. We go back every few years as she has much family there. 5. Have you been on the O'NEALL-LIST that I mentioned? Have you ever checked out the associated web site for Shane's castle? The listowner, Jill O'Neall Ching, of Hawaii, has some sites which relate to a Hugh O'Neall/O'Neill of Shane's Castle. There is quite a lot of discussion on this list about it. Since our family, like yours were mostly farmers, etc. I just assumed there was no noble connection. But, when the Clandeboye O'Neills were dispossessed by the English, there could have been a great many O'Neill relatives left with no lands or livelihood and some could have emigrated. By the way, since we are both on AOL, we can do "instant messages" when we are both on line at the same time. I have added your screen name to my 'buddy list' so I will know when you are online. Let's keep in touch, Bill. Regards, Bob O'Neal 2102 N. Union Ave Tacoma WA 98406 Tel: 253-752-8242 Fax: 253-759-7113

Hi all! So then, all Hugh's contemporary descendants do not bear the O'Neall surname, unless they picked it up elsewhere. Does anyone have more on this Caldwell family? There are several times they show up in the O'Neall records. They were a large and powerful family. The "C" in John C. Calhoun stands for Caldwell! Carl James O'Neall wrote: > This is what I have on the children of Hugh and > Anne Kelly O'Neall > Children: > John Belton > Abigail O'Neall > Rebecah O'Neall > Hannah O'Neall > Sarah Ford O'Neall > > Below find the family of Hugh and Anne Kelly > O'Neall > and the family of his son John Belton O'Neall > > Children of Hugh and Anne Kelly O'Neall: > John Belton O'Neall > Born: April 10, 1793 Newberry Co. S.C. > Died: December 17, 1863 Springfield, SC (Rosemont > Cemetery) > Number of children: 6 > Age at death: 70 > . +Helen Pope > Born: November 19, 1797 Edgegield, SC > Died: November 10, 1871 Springfield, SC > Married: June 25, 1818 Newberry Co. S.C. > Number of children: 6 > Father: Captain Sampson Pope > Mother: Sarah Strother > Age at death: 73 > > Children of John Belton and Helen Pope O'Neall: > 1 Hannah Belton O'Neall > Born: March 01, 1820 > Died: October 18, 1830 Newberry Co. S.C. - > Rosemont Cemetery > Age at death: 10 > 2 Sarah Strother O'Neall > Born: February 27, 1823 > Died: August 05, 1857 > Number of children: 7 > Age at death: 34 > . +Dr. William H. Harrington > Married: November 18, 1841 > > Children of Sarah Strother O'Neall and Dr. William > Harrington: > 1. Helen Harrington > . +Dr. S. Pope > 2. Moriat Harrington > . +Captain J. W. Gary > 3. Hattie Harrington > . +Col. T. J. Lipscomb > 4. Hugh O'Neall Harrington > 5. John O'Neall Harrington > 6. John Belton O'Neall Harrington > 7. Sallie Harrington > . +Charles Kier > > Children of John Belton and Helen Pope O'Neall > cont: > 3. Anne Kelly O'Neall > Born: February 13, 1825 > Died: October 01, 1830 Newberry Co. S.C. - > Rosemont Cemetery > Age at death: 5 > > 4. Rebecca O'Neall > Born: March 26, 1827 > Died: March 10, 1834 Newberry Co. S.C. - > Rosemont Cemetery > Age at death: 6 > > 5. Helen Mary O'Neall > Born: June 08, 1829 > Died: October 04, 1830 Newberry Co. S.C. > Age at death: 1 > > 6. Elizabeth Abigail O'Neall > Born: November 03, 1831 > Died: March 21, 1834 Newberry Co. S.C. - > Rosemont Cemetery > Age at death: 2 > > Children of Hugh and Anne Kelly O'Neall cont: > Abigail O'Neall b. Abt. 1794 - Newberry Co. S.C. > d. January 15, 1865 > m. John Caldwell > they had 2 children > > Rebecah O'Neall > b. Abt. 1795 - Newberry Co. S.C. > d. 1854 > > Hannah O'Neall > b. Abt. 1796 - Newberry Co. S.C. > d. 1815 > > Sarah Ford O'Neall > b. Abt. 1797 - Newberry Co. S.C. > d. August 10, 1868 > never married > > -----Original Message----- > From: sarah parmley <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Date: Sunday, September 20, 1998 7:38 AM > Subject: Re: Fw: [ONEALL-L] From ancestry.com > > >Do you have the names of the four daughters of > Hugh and Anne Kelly > >O'Neal > >[email protected] > > > >James O'Neall wrote: > > > >> Resending - I didn't see it come through > before > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: James O'Neall <[email protected]> > >> To: [email protected] > <[email protected]> > >> Date: Friday, September 18, 1998 10:33 PM > >> Subject: Re: [ONEALL-L] From ancestry.com > >> > >> >Richard this Hugh O'Neall was born June 10, > >> 1767 - > >> >Laurens Dist., S.C. > >> >died October 18, 1848 Newberry Dist., S.C. > He > >> >was the second son of my ancestor > >> >William O'Neall > >> >born November 05, 1734 - Christiana, New > Castle > >> >Co., DE > >> >d. November 05, 1786 - Bush River Newberry > Dist. > >> >or Laurens Dist. S.C. > >> >m. Mary Frost > >> >b. May 16, 1738 - VA > >> >d. December 11, 1809 - Bush River, Newberry or > >> >Laurens Dist SC > >> >m. July 06, 1761-Winchester Va. > >> > > >> >Hugh was married to > >> >Anne Kelly > >> >b. August 12, 1767 > >> >d. October 04, 1850 > >> >m. November 10, 1792 - Bush River, S. C. > >> > > >> >Hugh and Anne Kelly O'Neall had five children, > >> >four girls and one son who was known as Judge > >> John > >> >Belton O'Neall. > >> > > >> >Jim > >> > > >> > > >> >-----Original Message----- > >> >From: Richard O'Neill <[email protected]> > >> >To: [email protected] > <[email protected]> > >> >Date: Friday, September 18, 1998 9:59 PM > >> >Subject: Re: [ONEALL-L] From ancestry.com > >> > > >> > > >> >>Cheryl White wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> Marriage and Death Notices From the > Up-Country > >> >of South Carolina as taken > >> >>> from Greenville newspapers 1826 - 1863 > >> compiled > >> >by Brent H. Holcomb, C. A. > >> >>> L. S. > >> >>> page 189 > >> >>> Died at the residence of Judge O'Neall, > >> >Springfield, Newberry District, his > >> >>> father, Hugh O'Neall, on Wednesday, [p.189] > >> the > >> >18th ultimo at abour 2 P. > >> >>> M. Hugh O'Neal the second son of William > >> >O'Neall and his wife. Mary Frost, > >> >>> was born 10th June 1767 in Laurens > District, > >> S. > >> >C. He there spent the early > >> >>> part of his life. In his boyhood he managed > a > >> >grist mill for his father.… > >> >>> In 1880 he entered the mercantile > business.… > >> In > >> >1820 he became an inmate in > >> >>> the family of his son who had just settled > at > >> >Springfield. There he spent > >> >>> the balance of his life. (November 10, > 1848) > >> >>> > >> >>> Cheryl White > >> >>> [email protected] > >> >>> http://www.angelfire.com/me/geneal > >> >>> ICQ #7239631 > >> >>> IM Cheryl gen > >> >> > >> >>Cheryl, > >> >> > >> >>I'm very interested in this posting as I > think > >> >you have uncovered an > >> >>ancestor of mine. Can you double check the > date > >> >he "entered the > >> >>mercantile business." Could it be 1780? > Also, > >> >if the date of the > >> >>article is 11-10-1848, in what month did he > die > >> >(...the 18th ultimo...)? > >> >> > >> >>Thank you for the reference! > >> >> > >> >>Richard O'NEILL (AKA Richard "O") > >> >>San Antonio, TX > >> >>[email protected] > >> >> > >> > > > > > > >

This is what I have on the children of Hugh and Anne Kelly O'Neall Children: John Belton Abigail O'Neall Rebecah O'Neall Hannah O'Neall Sarah Ford O'Neall Below find the family of Hugh and Anne Kelly O'Neall and the family of his son John Belton O'Neall Children of Hugh and Anne Kelly O'Neall: John Belton O'Neall Born: April 10, 1793 Newberry Co. S.C. Died: December 17, 1863 Springfield, SC (Rosemont Cemetery) Number of children: 6 Age at death: 70 . +Helen Pope Born: November 19, 1797 Edgegield, SC Died: November 10, 1871 Springfield, SC Married: June 25, 1818 Newberry Co. S.C. Number of children: 6 Father: Captain Sampson Pope Mother: Sarah Strother Age at death: 73 Children of John Belton and Helen Pope O'Neall: 1 Hannah Belton O'Neall Born: March 01, 1820 Died: October 18, 1830 Newberry Co. S.C. - Rosemont Cemetery Age at death: 10 2 Sarah Strother O'Neall Born: February 27, 1823 Died: August 05, 1857 Number of children: 7 Age at death: 34 . +Dr. William H. Harrington Married: November 18, 1841 Children of Sarah Strother O'Neall and Dr. William Harrington: 1. Helen Harrington . +Dr. S. Pope 2. Moriat Harrington . +Captain J. W. Gary 3. Hattie Harrington . +Col. T. J. Lipscomb 4. Hugh O'Neall Harrington 5. John O'Neall Harrington 6. John Belton O'Neall Harrington 7. Sallie Harrington . +Charles Kier Children of John Belton and Helen Pope O'Neall cont: 3. Anne Kelly O'Neall Born: February 13, 1825 Died: October 01, 1830 Newberry Co. S.C. - Rosemont Cemetery Age at death: 5 4. Rebecca O'Neall Born: March 26, 1827 Died: March 10, 1834 Newberry Co. S.C. - Rosemont Cemetery Age at death: 6 5. Helen Mary O'Neall Born: June 08, 1829 Died: October 04, 1830 Newberry Co. S.C. Age at death: 1 6. Elizabeth Abigail O'Neall Born: November 03, 1831 Died: March 21, 1834 Newberry Co. S.C. - Rosemont Cemetery Age at death: 2 Children of Hugh and Anne Kelly O'Neall cont: Abigail O'Neall b. Abt. 1794 - Newberry Co. S.C. d. January 15, 1865 m. John Caldwell they had 2 children Rebecah O'Neall b. Abt. 1795 - Newberry Co. S.C. d. 1854 Hannah O'Neall b. Abt. 1796 - Newberry Co. S.C. d. 1815 Sarah Ford O'Neall b. Abt. 1797 - Newberry Co. S.C. d. August 10, 1868 never married -----Original Message----- From: sarah parmley <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, September 20, 1998 7:38 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [ONEALL-L] From ancestry.com >Do you have the names of the four daughters of Hugh and Anne Kelly >O'Neal >[email protected] > >James O'Neall wrote: > >> Resending - I didn't see it come through before >> -----Original Message----- >> From: James O'Neall <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> Date: Friday, September 18, 1998 10:33 PM >> Subject: Re: [ONEALL-L] From ancestry.com >> >> >Richard this Hugh O'Neall was born June 10, >> 1767 - >> >Laurens Dist., S.C. >> >died October 18, 1848 Newberry Dist., S.C. He >> >was the second son of my ancestor >> >William O'Neall >> >born November 05, 1734 - Christiana, New Castle >> >Co., DE >> >d. November 05, 1786 - Bush River Newberry Dist. >> >or Laurens Dist. S.C. >> >m. Mary Frost >> >b. May 16, 1738 - VA >> >d. December 11, 1809 - Bush River, Newberry or >> >Laurens Dist SC >> >m. July 06, 1761-Winchester Va. >> > >> >Hugh was married to >> >Anne Kelly >> >b. August 12, 1767 >> >d. October 04, 1850 >> >m. November 10, 1792 - Bush River, S. C. >> > >> >Hugh and Anne Kelly O'Neall had five children, >> >four girls and one son who was known as Judge >> John >> >Belton O'Neall. >> > >> >Jim >> > >> > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: Richard O'Neill <[email protected]> >> >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> >Date: Friday, September 18, 1998 9:59 PM >> >Subject: Re: [ONEALL-L] From ancestry.com >> > >> > >> >>Cheryl White wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Marriage and Death Notices From the Up-Country >> >of South Carolina as taken >> >>> from Greenville newspapers 1826 - 1863 >> compiled >> >by Brent H. Holcomb, C. A. >> >>> L. S. >> >>> page 189 >> >>> Died at the residence of Judge O'Neall, >> >Springfield, Newberry District, his >> >>> father, Hugh O'Neall, on Wednesday, [p.189] >> the >> >18th ultimo at abour 2 P. >> >>> M. Hugh O'Neal the second son of William >> >O'Neall and his wife. Mary Frost, >> >>> was born 10th June 1767 in Laurens District, >> S. >> >C. He there spent the early >> >>> part of his life. In his boyhood he managed a >> >grist mill for his father.… >> >>> In 1880 he entered the mercantile business.… >> In >> >1820 he became an inmate in >> >>> the family of his son who had just settled at >> >Springfield. There he spent >> >>> the balance of his life. (November 10, 1848) >> >>> >> >>> Cheryl White >> >>> [email protected] >> >>> http://www.angelfire.com/me/geneal >> >>> ICQ #7239631 >> >>> IM Cheryl gen >> >> >> >>Cheryl, >> >> >> >>I'm very interested in this posting as I think >> >you have uncovered an >> >>ancestor of mine. Can you double check the date >> >he "entered the >> >>mercantile business." Could it be 1780? Also, >> >if the date of the >> >>article is 11-10-1848, in what month did he die >> >(...the 18th ultimo...)? >> >> >> >>Thank you for the reference! >> >> >> >>Richard O'NEILL (AKA Richard "O") >> >>San Antonio, TX >> >>[email protected] >> >> >> > > > >

Hello, Is the Hugh O'Neal m. to Anne Kelly the son of HUGH and MARY PARKINS? Thanks Brenda [email protected]

Do you have the names of the four daughters of Hugh and Anne Kelly O'Neal [email protected] James O'Neall wrote: > Resending - I didn't see it come through before > -----Original Message----- > From: James O'Neall <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Date: Friday, September 18, 1998 10:33 PM > Subject: Re: [ONEALL-L] From ancestry.com > > >Richard this Hugh O'Neall was born June 10, > 1767 - > >Laurens Dist., S.C. > >died October 18, 1848 Newberry Dist., S.C. He > >was the second son of my ancestor > >William O'Neall > >born November 05, 1734 - Christiana, New Castle > >Co., DE > >d. November 05, 1786 - Bush River Newberry Dist. > >or Laurens Dist. S.C. > >m. Mary Frost > >b. May 16, 1738 - VA > >d. December 11, 1809 - Bush River, Newberry or > >Laurens Dist SC > >m. July 06, 1761-Winchester Va. > > > >Hugh was married to > >Anne Kelly > >b. August 12, 1767 > >d. October 04, 1850 > >m. November 10, 1792 - Bush River, S. C. > > > >Hugh and Anne Kelly O'Neall had five children, > >four girls and one son who was known as Judge > John > >Belton O'Neall. > > > >Jim > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Richard O'Neill <[email protected]> > >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > >Date: Friday, September 18, 1998 9:59 PM > >Subject: Re: [ONEALL-L] From ancestry.com > > > > > >>Cheryl White wrote: > >>> > >>> Marriage and Death Notices From the Up-Country > >of South Carolina as taken > >>> from Greenville newspapers 1826 - 1863 > compiled > >by Brent H. Holcomb, C. A. > >>> L. S. > >>> page 189 > >>> Died at the residence of Judge O'Neall, > >Springfield, Newberry District, his > >>> father, Hugh O'Neall, on Wednesday, [p.189] > the > >18th ultimo at abour 2 P. > >>> M. Hugh O'Neal the second son of William > >O'Neall and his wife. Mary Frost, > >>> was born 10th June 1767 in Laurens District, > S. > >C. He there spent the early > >>> part of his life. In his boyhood he managed a > >grist mill for his father.… > >>> In 1880 he entered the mercantile business.… > In > >1820 he became an inmate in > >>> the family of his son who had just settled at > >Springfield. There he spent > >>> the balance of his life. (November 10, 1848) > >>> > >>> Cheryl White > >>> [email protected] > >>> http://www.angelfire.com/me/geneal > >>> ICQ #7239631 > >>> IM Cheryl gen > >> > >>Cheryl, > >> > >>I'm very interested in this posting as I think > >you have uncovered an > >>ancestor of mine. Can you double check the date > >he "entered the > >>mercantile business." Could it be 1780? Also, > >if the date of the > >>article is 11-10-1848, in what month did he die > >(...the 18th ultimo...)? > >> > >>Thank you for the reference! > >> > >>Richard O'NEILL (AKA Richard "O") > >>San Antonio, TX > >>[email protected] > >> > >

Cheryl, I looked up "ultimo" in my grandmother's very old (1899) Webster's Dictionary. Indeed, it does mean "from the previous month". The same source defines "instant" as "present or current as in; On the tenth of July instant." Richard O'Neill San Antonio, TX [email protected]

Resending - I didn't see it come through before -----Original Message----- From: James O'Neall <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, September 18, 1998 10:33 PM Subject: Re: [ONEALL-L] From ancestry.com >Richard this Hugh O'Neall was born June 10, 1767 - >Laurens Dist., S.C. >died October 18, 1848 Newberry Dist., S.C. He >was the second son of my ancestor >William O'Neall >born November 05, 1734 - Christiana, New Castle >Co., DE >d. November 05, 1786 - Bush River Newberry Dist. >or Laurens Dist. S.C. >m. Mary Frost >b. May 16, 1738 - VA >d. December 11, 1809 - Bush River, Newberry or >Laurens Dist SC >m. July 06, 1761-Winchester Va. > >Hugh was married to >Anne Kelly >b. August 12, 1767 >d. October 04, 1850 >m. November 10, 1792 - Bush River, S. C. > >Hugh and Anne Kelly O'Neall had five children, >four girls and one son who was known as Judge John >Belton O'Neall. > >Jim > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Richard O'Neill <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >Date: Friday, September 18, 1998 9:59 PM >Subject: Re: [ONEALL-L] From ancestry.com > > >>Cheryl White wrote: >>> >>> Marriage and Death Notices From the Up-Country >of South Carolina as taken >>> from Greenville newspapers 1826 - 1863 compiled >by Brent H. Holcomb, C. A. >>> L. S. >>> page 189 >>> Died at the residence of Judge O'Neall, >Springfield, Newberry District, his >>> father, Hugh O'Neall, on Wednesday, [p.189] the >18th ultimo at abour 2 P. >>> M. Hugh O'Neal the second son of William >O'Neall and his wife. Mary Frost, >>> was born 10th June 1767 in Laurens District, S. >C. He there spent the early >>> part of his life. In his boyhood he managed a >grist mill for his father.… >>> In 1880 he entered the mercantile business.… In >1820 he became an inmate in >>> the family of his son who had just settled at >Springfield. There he spent >>> the balance of his life. (November 10, 1848) >>> >>> Cheryl White >>> [email protected] >>> http://www.angelfire.com/me/geneal >>> ICQ #7239631 >>> IM Cheryl gen >> >>Cheryl, >> >>I'm very interested in this posting as I think >you have uncovered an >>ancestor of mine. Can you double check the date >he "entered the >>mercantile business." Could it be 1780? Also, >if the date of the >>article is 11-10-1848, in what month did he die >(...the 18th ultimo...)? >> >>Thank you for the reference! >> >>Richard O'NEILL (AKA Richard "O") >>San Antonio, TX >>[email protected] >> >

---------- > From: Cheryl White <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ONEALL-L] From ancestry.com > Date: Friday, September 18, 1998 11:09 PM > > Hi Richard, > This information came from a book at ancestry.com. It is free online right > now at www.ancestry.com Just click on new data bases then click on the > book title named below, type in the surname you want and voila. I think > that the 1880 you noticed should indeed be 1780 after all he died well > before 1880. That was the way it was written and I did copy and paste. > The books at ancestry have some atrocious typists ha ha. As far as the > ultimo. I'm not sure what that means. If you find out would appreciate > your letting me know. Other dates I've seen also use the word instant. > Could ulitomo and instant mean month before or that month? One of the > deaths mentioned a couple before his was for the month of Sept. If anyone > knows what the words ultimo or instant means can ya help us out and let us > know. > Cheryl White > [email protected] > http://www.angelfire.com/me/geneal > ICQ #7239631 > IM Cheryl gen > > ---------- > > From: Richard O'Neill <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [ONEALL-L] From ancestry.com > > Date: Friday, September 18, 1998 10:51 PM > > > > > > Cheryl, > > > > I'm very interested in this posting as I think you have uncovered an > > ancestor of mine. Can you double check the date he "entered the > > mercantile business." Could it be 1780? Also, if the date of the > > article is 11-10-1848, in what month did he die (...the 18th ultimo...)? > > > > Thank you for the reference! > > > > Richard O'NEILL (AKA Richard "O") > > San Antonio, TX > > [email protected]

W. Stuart O'Neil, To your message below which came from the Antrim rootsweb list: My name is William Robert O'Neal (1938-), my father was Robert William O'Neal (1908-1986), my grandfather William James O'Neal (1883-1969). My grandfather, originally from Cumberland MD went to Pittsburgh (Homestead) in about 1900 to work in the steel mills. He was RR Supt. at the Homestead Works for Carnegie- Illinois Steel and later US Steel. Our family lived there (Brentwood) 1940-1942 and ( Mt. Lebanon) 1954-1963. My father graduated as an engineer from Pitt. We lived in Mt. Lebanon where I graduated from high school. So your entry caught my eye. There are more coincident facts. We are trying to trace the origins. Family tradition from all branches agree that they came from "Antrim" (town?, county?), but we have no place name, no documents or other information. All of OUR branches (fully documented) spell the name O'Neal or O'Neale. They were ALL Protestant going back to 1660s. I have traced my O'NEALs back to Bedford Co PA in 1776-1850, Montgomery/Frederick Co's MD in 1750-1776 and St. Mary's/Calvert Co's MD from 1660s to ca. 1750. I have been in contact with MANY true cousins all descendants of Joseph O'NEAL (ca.1660-ca.1700). His descendants went into PA, VA, KY, OH, and southwestward. One early branch to GA. This has always been a puzzle to us. Is this a clue to searching in Antrim? Should we look for Protestant O'Neals? I am well familiar wih the "Plantation" to Ireland, but I assumed that the O'Neals/O'Neills were NOT planted, that is did not come from Scotland as there were so many of them already in Northern Ireland and esp. Antrim in the 1600s. I also do not believe they were of the Irish nobility. I do not think they owned land. Although some could have been "servitors". I am familiar with the noble branches who capitulated to the British in order to save their lands and were made tenants. You are the FIRST O'Neill/O'Neal/O'Neale I have found who back to Antrim and is PROTESTANT. They were early on in 1692, "Church of Maryland" or Episcopal (Church of England) then later in my branch mostly "Methodist Episcopal" or "M.E." as they referred to it in documents. [By the way, we use the shorthand term "O'Nexlx" to designate ALL the spellings of O'Neal/O'Neall/O'Neill/O'Neale/O'Neil/O'Neel/O'Nail.] My questions for you are the same ones that have been puzzling us: How did your O'Neill/O'Neil family become Protestant? Are there other Protestant O'Nexlx families in Antrim? How did THEY become Protestant? Where can we find some history of this? Is the fact they are Protestant a good clue to help us find the immigrant? Can we rule out certain places or O'Nexlx families in Antrim? Are there certain church records? Were they in fact planted from Scotland? (I think not). Were they not Irish born for generations in Antrim? If so, how did they become (turn) Protestant? How would you answer these questions for YOUR O'Neills? Have you been to Ireland and researched in Antrim? I would be very glad to hear from you. Incidentally, I belong to an "O'Neall LIst" which is a surname rootsweb list (newsgroup) similar to the Antrim rootsweb list. To subscribe merely send a "subscribe" message to [email protected] Most of these O'Nexlx subscribers are researching in the South, but there may be some connection for you. Bob O'Neal 2102 N. Union Ave Tacoma WA 98406 [email protected] ----------------------------------------------------- In a message dated 9/18/98 4:40:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << William O'Neill b. abt. 1841, d. 1914, Married Sarah Ritchie, b. abt 1841, d. 1923, on Dec. 19, 1861. The record was found on the microfilmed records of the Buckna Presbyterian Church. These are my grandparents. William's father's name was William O'Neill. Sarah's father's name was James Ritchie. Both William and Sarah lived in Tecloy, Skerry Parish, when they were married. They later moved to Loughconnelly. The marriage record was witnessed and signed by James Ritchie and John O'Neill. William and Sarah had 11 children. 1) John b. abt. 1862, d. 1930 in County Antrim, 2) William James, b. abt. 1865, d. 1922 in Pittsburgh, PA. USA., 3) Margaret, b. abt. 1868, d. 1953 in County Antrim, 4) Rosetta, b. 1870, d. 1963 in Scotia, New York, USA., 5) Jane b. 1871 in Breakagh, County Antrim, d. 1971 in California, USA., 6) Sarah, b. abt. 1874, d. abt. 1945 in Scotland, 7) Agnes, b. abt. 1876, d. at age 6, 8) Mary Ann, b. 1879, d. 1965 in Braid Valley Hospital, Ballymena, 9) Elizabeth, b. 1880, d. 1967 in Belfast, 10) Roy, b. 1884, d. 1963 in Scotland, 11) Arthur, ( My father), b. 1888 at Loughconnelly, d. 1976 in Coraopolis, PA, USA. My great-grandmother O'Neill's given name was Anne. I was told by my father that her maiden name was O'Hara. I would like confirmation of this and welcome any other information about her and her family. Thank you for any help you can give me. W.S. O'Neil, Coraopolis, PA. >>

About Niall's saga and the origins of the name, I asked my wife to look up what she could find in our copy. I had a feeling there was a problem with the dates. Here's what she found, interspersed in the original notes. To be brief, Njal's saga dates from oral stories told around the year 900, whereas Nial of the 9 Hostages lived in, if I remember correctly, the 400s. Would sound more like a Celtic export to Scandinavia that the other way around, based on the saga. But when was the god worshiped? Just some food for thought. John > |> 1. When I was in college, I did a research paper on the origin > |of my name > |> "O'Neal". Since I had no preconceived notions about the name, and > no > |> genealogical experience, I merely reported what I found which was > this: > |> > |> a) The name originally stemmed from a Norse god, "Njal", > |pronounced, nee-aal'. > |> The "a" has a small "o" above it, and in fact is not an "a", but > |one of the > |> three additional letters in the modern Dano-Norwegian alphabet, > |and pronounced > |> differently (ask one of your Scandinavian friends). I'm one of them. The letter is å and it's pronounced like 'aw' in saw. (I'm Swedish by the way, but the Swedes were not as involved in all this westering, the British isles, Iceland etc. as the Danes and the Norwegians.) > There is a > |famous early > |> literary work called "Njal's Saga". Yes, it dates from around 1280. Relates episodes from 300 years earlier. Just read the introduction to the saga in Penguin Classics. > |> > |> b) The name evolved over the centuries as Njall. In > |Dano-Norwegian, a "j" is > |> pronounced as "ee". Then it became Niall (an "i" is also > |pronouced as "ee" in > |> Dano-Norwegian). At one point there was a "Niall of the Nine > |Hostages" who is > |> named as the progenitor of the O'Neal/O'Neall/O'Neill name. > |Then, some time > |> later his descendants, the Irish "clan" of O'Neal's used the > |IRISH appelation > |> "Ui" to designate "descendant of" or "son of" as in Ui' Niall or > |"descendants > |> of Niall". > | > |> Bob O'Neal in Tacoma > | > |It's interesting that the Celtic language had a direct influence from > > |Norse at such an early date (c. 400). This was well before the Norse > > |invasions of Ireland. How do you sources document this connection? This is a question I've asked myself at least since John O'Neall, my husband got involved in genealogy. It seems obvious that there must have been a very close connection. But how did it work? I also tend to believe that the Norse languages had an influence on the Celtic language. I'm a linguist by the way, but not competent to do detective work on Norse/Celtic connections. My linguistic studies had nothing to do with Norse or Celtic. Siv O'Neall > | > |Anyway, I've decided to use the Soundex version of my name. > | > |Jon O540 > | > |

Richard this Hugh O'Neall was born June 10, 1767 - Laurens Dist., S.C. died October 18, 1848 Newberry Dist., S.C. He was the second son of my ancestor William O'Neall born November 05, 1734 - Christiana, New Castle Co., DE d. November 05, 1786 - Bush River Newberry Dist. or Laurens Dist. S.C. m. Mary Frost b. May 16, 1738 - VA d. December 11, 1809 - Bush River, Newberry or Laurens Dist SC m. July 06, 1761-Winchester Va. Hugh was married to Anne Kelly b. August 12, 1767 d. October 04, 1850 m. November 10, 1792 - Bush River, S. C. Hugh and Anne Kelly O'Neall had five children, four girls and one son who was known as Judge John Belton O'Neall. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Richard O'Neill <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, September 18, 1998 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [ONEALL-L] From ancestry.com >Cheryl White wrote: >> >> Marriage and Death Notices From the Up-Country of South Carolina as taken >> from Greenville newspapers 1826 - 1863 compiled by Brent H. Holcomb, C. A. >> L. S. >> page 189 >> Died at the residence of Judge O'Neall, Springfield, Newberry District, his >> father, Hugh O'Neall, on Wednesday, [p.189] the 18th ultimo at abour 2 P. >> M. Hugh O'Neal the second son of William O'Neall and his wife. Mary Frost, >> was born 10th June 1767 in Laurens District, S. C. He there spent the early >> part of his life. In his boyhood he managed a grist mill for his father.… >> In 1880 he entered the mercantile business.… In 1820 he became an inmate in >> the family of his son who had just settled at Springfield. There he spent >> the balance of his life. (November 10, 1848) >> >> Cheryl White >> [email protected] >> http://www.angelfire.com/me/geneal >> ICQ #7239631 >> IM Cheryl gen > >Cheryl, > >I'm very interested in this posting as I think you have uncovered an >ancestor of mine. Can you double check the date he "entered the >mercantile business." Could it be 1780? Also, if the date of the >article is 11-10-1848, in what month did he die (...the 18th ultimo...)? > >Thank you for the reference! > >Richard O'NEILL (AKA Richard "O") >San Antonio, TX >[email protected] >