Thanks Cliff ! I don't think my line relates to him, but very interesting. Emma in NM
Hi Gang! Learning about my O'Neall line was always, at least since early childhood a part of my life. Although at the time no one in my branch had anything organized, I do remember, as a child, my grandfather (P J O'Neall) bringing out the old papers and telling us about them. These were rare occasions due to the fact grandpa lived some three to four hours from me, and it was during WWII and one used gasoline and tires sparingly. As I got older I was intrigued by the stories and the mystery of the family history. My grandfathers old papers and ledgers were passed on to my father upon my grandfathers death and access was much easier. Dad was very interested in the memorabilia and had he lived longer I am sure he would have started this whole thing himself. Before he died in 1976, he gave me all the papers and memorabilia. Perhaps because he was dying I could see the fleeting aspect of life and I began to ask him questions which I had never had answered about the family. Mostly the had not been answered because I had never asked. My Mother died just 10 weeks following my father and after her death I really dug into all the 'stuff'. Boxes of old ledgers, letters, deeds, personal papers, tax receipts, telegrams, etc., I carefully dug through. There in all that 'stuff' was a nearly whole family history of my branch of the O'Neall's. Ledger entries listing ancestors from my great grandfather back to Hugh O'Neall, born in Ireland. Needless to say I was thrilled. Sure lots of holes in final scheme, but non-the-less a healthy start. I even found a handwritten promissory note on a little slip of brown paper dated 1809. What a find! Then I found the cipher books and the math books of William O'Neall dated 1815 through 1820, this was my great-great-grandfather. They were living in South Carolina, the books even have doodles in them by someone that shows the broad brimmed black hat and other black attire of the Quaker man and the ladies typical dress of the day. Then in the fall of 1996 I got my computer and internet access and found Jill and her list. From the generosity of many on this list and the help of Bert O'Neall, I now have some information all every branch of Hugh's children and their descendants. This list has introduced me, electronically, to cousins 3rd, 4th, and all the way to 7th and all versions of the removed process. What a great day we live in! It is still my hope that someday, before I die, We O'Neall's and all kin will find a time to gather together here in the U.S., What a time we would have, telling lies. It has been fun and someday I will get all my stuff put into one volume, although I am not sure I could carry it. I did give my children a four hundred page genealogy draft of my material, as of one year ago, as a Christmas gift in '97. I really think they have enjoyed it, they keep coming up with questions about some person or event, so I know they are reading it. Well, like all O'Neall's I am rambling on and better "shut the heck up" ! Jim O'Neall [email protected] "Searching the past; Looking to the future"
In searching for an elusive ancestor in one my other lines, I was looking at info about the 26th INF from Alabama (CSA) which was taken into the Army of Northern Virginia at one point. The unit was listed as , in this order I believe as Rode's Brigade, ON'EAL'S BRIGADE, Battles Brigade. Does anyone know anything about this O'Neal ?? Eternally curious, Emma in NM
BTW, I have a close relative who may be going to Ireland on business soon. I don't know how much time she will have, but if anyone has clues to the O'Neals in Ireland, please let me know and I will ask her to search for whatever she can find there. Emma In New Mexico
My sister and I began dabbling in genealogy about 4 years ago. When she died suddenly of a stroke in 1996, I realized that most of us who knew anything definite about the family history were gone, so better get at it. I knew quite a lot about the Bozeman side of the family, they are/were very literate people who kept good records. My O'NEAL side was sketchy. I knew only that my mother's father was one Zack R. O'NEAL. Since he was killed in an accident in Old Mexico when she was only seven , and his wife, my grandmother died when I was 12 I had only limited information on the O'Neals. The real stumbling block was not knowing what my g grandfather's name was. I knew that Zack had a half brother, Michael and a sister Millie who died young. Here's where it gets interesting folks. One day while reviewing copies of a column about Winn Parish Louisiana, written by one of my Bozeman cousins in the 1950s, I came upon a line which said "In passing I might add that Z.R. O'Neal was a great uncle of Mrs. W.A. Swilley, wife of our present Rock Island railroad agent here in Winnfield." Thank you Harley Bernard Bozeman and the Winnfield Enterprise-News American ! I immediately got in touch with H.B.'s son, and he was kind enough to put me in touch with a descendant of Irene Swilley. This gentleman lives in Louisiana and he and his wife have been wonderfully helpful to me. Seems we have a common ancestor in HENDERSON O'NEAL , since he descended from Michael , son of Henderson and Rebecca, and I descended from Zack, son of Henderson and his second wife Nancy Kilner. We have not yet been able to trace back from Henderson, but I am overjoyed to have found this kin. I keep telling everyone, not one little smidgen of information is useless ! Somewhere someone needs it. Still searching Emma In New Mexico .
In a message dated 11/4/1998 8:48:23 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << I now have some information all every branch of Hugh's children and their descendants. >> Jim, Well, I hope that you have something on my great-great-great grandfather Edward O'Neal. He is supposed to have been married to a Rebecca. One of his daughters, Keziah O'Neal, was my great-great-grandfather's mother. Do you have anything on Edward O'Neal and his family group, parents, sibs, children? I would surely appreciate any information you could offer. Julia Florida/USA
Bert was my next suggestion too Anne, I have not heard of where/how ro find British Records of military service, but it is certainly worth considering, I wonder if L of Congress might be a source, or the archives in VA? If John had alot more children, it would sure answer some questions, Jill : To Jill, Richard, and List, : Your query brings about a question of my own. John was 31 in 1776 : which leaves him time to have done considerable fathering before he died : in 1781. Since he was a Captain in the British army and was killed in : the skirmish with Capt.Roebuck in Union District, is it possible that : there are military records of any sort left by the British? I have : heard of our record keeping but have never come across the issue of : British records. If so, then might not spouses or children be listed in : such records? : I'm out here but can do no more than ask more questions. : I think I will write Bert and see what he thinks. : Anne :
I am hoping folks would like to share their stories of success or how they became interested in the activity we do called genealogy??? My interest started with a simple visit to Oregon to find a man who knew the grandpa I never knew, from that I wrote a story about our adventurous journey (the pie was great!) and I truly caught the bug big time. Charles Edward O'Neall b 1900 Chicago was the beginning of it for me, and I have been very fortunate to have help and success since then~I am always looking for more detailed facts about my ancestors and when I am not overwhelmed with other things in my life, I spend a great deal of time working on this family. One of the most wonderful benefits is sharing the material with my siblings............this has created a closeness I am very grateful to have in my life. I would like to hear from others also. Aloha, Jill
My mother started researching in the late 1960's, due to her Step-Father, Albert Walker Torrans, telling her that he did not know his grandfather's name. This led to several years of searching for the family of my grandpa (step or not)-----during this time Mom began to search for her own Roots...... For over 25 years, with NO computer, she amassed boxes and boxes of paperwork. She joined genealogical societies (pouring over their publications), wrote letters by the thousands, logged hundreds of hours on the telephone, visited cemeteries, and family every chance she got on trips to TX and LA from her home in Calif. Bless her heart, everytime a conversation started, it got into genealogy------with everybody. My children were embarassed, and she had me totally confused on which family went with who. In 1991, Mother passed on, and I was left to sort through the boxes and boxes of family group sheets, census records, letters, bits and pieces of information written on everything. Not realizing that all the families were jumbled together---including what little she had been able to sniff out on my Father's family. It took me 4 years, of dabbling here and there. By February of last year I was hooked totally on this unending quest. I still don't have all her research in the computer----but I have managed to add several generations to the tree. I hope she knows that she left a legacy that has been carried on and hopefully will find another after. This has been one of the most exciting and fun things (besides my business) that I have ever done. My only regret being that I didn't get the "bug" sooner, what fun and what discoveries we could have made together. Thank you Mom Researching: Squyres, O'Neal, Adair, Pyburn, Rhame, Bazer, Smith, Mosley, Wilson, Hartsell, Cline, Anderson All wound up in LA or TX
In 1978 our first grandson was born. My mother-inlaw would never speak a word about the man she had married, Jack Belton O'Neill. When she became ill, she mentioned that the family had all lived in the Atlanta, Ga. area and there had been 5 boys. Sitting alone on a January evening, I picked up the phone and dialed information for Atlanta for a James or Jack O'Neill. And Bingo.....reached a cousin who connected me to his father. From that call I received boxes of information on this family and a picture of my husband's father, who had died in 1940. This was the first time my husband had seen a picture of his father in 38 years. We are still searching for GGGrandfather as he suddenly appeared and just as quickly disappeared. We know that in 1790 one John B O'Neill was born and in 1820 married a Sophia Yancey Dobbs. Great G was born in 1822 in Prince Wm. Co, Va. and then appears in 1840 in GA. This quest has been going on now all these years. I know there were brothers of this JBON (1822)...so now to find them and the rest of the story. Just found a Daniel O'Neill 's will in Prince Wm. Co 1823 so perhaps I am on to something. Thanks for listening and sharing. Mrs. John Belton O'Neill, in Texas.
To Jill, Richard, and List, Your query brings about a question of my own. John was 31 in 1776 which leaves him time to have done considerable fathering before he died in 1781. Since he was a Captain in the British army and was killed in the skirmish with Capt.Roebuck in Union District, is it possible that there are military records of any sort left by the British? I have heard of our record keeping but have never come across the issue of British records. If so, then might not spouses or children be listed in such records? I'm out here but can do no more than ask more questions. I think I will write Bert and see what he thinks. Anne
Hi, I am forwarding your question to the O'Neall discussion group, I suggest you join it, and perhaps someone here can answer your question~ Jill ---------- : From: [email protected] : To: [email protected] : Subject: re: Mary O'Niell : Date: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 5:16 AM : : Trying to find the origins of the Mary O'Neill that married William McQuaid. : She was born in Ireland in 1811 in Ireland. She died in Kingston Ontario : August 16, 1877. They arrived in Kinston Ontario from Ireland around 1850 : beleived to be due from the plight of the Famine in Ireland. They arrived with : 5 children. I beleive they were married in Ireland. Exactly where is not known : at this time. : Thanks for any help in my search. : Shannon Courtney
Well, it certainly all is possible, just as you say. Why wouldn't he be in VA then, I don't believe they went to SC until 1764-65??? Can someone else confirm this?? I have also thought that Darius is part of this family, but there is no proof that I know of. Anne??? Are you out there what do you think of this possibility? I don't know anything, other than what is in the database and cousins project about John's family......maybe he had another woman, who had Darius? I dunno.... I would get the early tax list, when Darius comes of age and is named and see who is around named O'Neill or O'Neal, if there are no males then you know his father is gone...... worth a check? Jill ---------- : From: Richard O'Neill <[email protected]> : To: [email protected] : Subject: [ONEALL-L] Inquiry about John O'Neall : Date: Monday, November 02, 1998 6:03 PM : : Jill, : : Do you have any information, family tradition, suspicions, or even : rumors about John O'Neall (son of Hugh) having any other children aside : from the two daughters that you list? Do you have any information about : these two daughters? : : The reason I ask is that I have a wildly improbable theory. I am : descended from both Hugh O'Neall and Darius O'Neill and have always : thought that these were two different families. However, no one can : find any information about the parents of Darius. Speculation includes : that the father may have been named John and the mother may have been a : KITCHEN from Connecticut. : : What if John O'Neall was the father? Darius was born in Culpepper Co, : VA on 5-18-1764. This is well within an appropriate age for John to : have fathered him. It seems unlikely that he fathered only two children : (as compared to his prolific siblings). Do you know if John traveled to : VA during his lifetime? Where did he die? I believe that John's : youngest sibling was born in VA? : : I know this idea is outlandish, but I'm trying to be creative in my : research. Tell me what you think. : : Take care. : : Richard O'Neill : San Antonio, TX : [email protected] : [email protected] :
Would like to find in where he died other then IN. Also, very his father, John O'Neal born inn NC. Wm., b.Feb.1853 in IN, d.ca1923, IN; married ca1876 to Elizabeth Brode, b.Nov 1853, IN; d.ca1920 IN. No much but any help would be most appreciated. Joseph P. Lafnear, Sr. [email protected]
Jill, Do you have any information, family tradition, suspicions, or even rumors about John O'Neall (son of Hugh) having any other children aside from the two daughters that you list? Do you have any information about these two daughters? The reason I ask is that I have a wildly improbable theory. I am descended from both Hugh O'Neall and Darius O'Neill and have always thought that these were two different families. However, no one can find any information about the parents of Darius. Speculation includes that the father may have been named John and the mother may have been a KITCHEN from Connecticut. What if John O'Neall was the father? Darius was born in Culpepper Co, VA on 5-18-1764. This is well within an appropriate age for John to have fathered him. It seems unlikely that he fathered only two children (as compared to his prolific siblings). Do you know if John traveled to VA during his lifetime? Where did he die? I believe that John's youngest sibling was born in VA? I know this idea is outlandish, but I'm trying to be creative in my research. Tell me what you think. Take care. Richard O'Neill San Antonio, TX [email protected] [email protected]
No need here to apologize Denise.....I was wanting to see about posting some of mine.....but I was in a hurry.....anyway my personal feelings is that if its $100 its not something I would spend that much on, but my rich cousins might! Aloha~ Jill ---------- : From: DL O'Neal <[email protected]> : To: [email protected] : Subject: Re: [ONEALL-L] A must see!! : Date: Sunday, November 01, 1998 6:31 AM : : Hi Jill, : I must apologize for not looking further into it. It does say that there : is a fee for placing a name on the wall. I had only viewed some of the : names on the wall and that was of course free. : Denise : : -----Original Message----- : From: Jill O'Neall Ching <[email protected]> : To: [email protected] <[email protected]> : Date: Saturday, October 31, 1998 10:51 PM : Subject: Re: [ONEALL-L] A must see!! : : : >Hi I looked at the site, is there a fee to post a name? I read one part of : >the site and it read to me that it costs $100, is that true, am I wrong? : >Jill : > : >---------- : >: From: [email protected] : >: To: [email protected] : >: Subject: Re: [ONEALL-L] A must see!! : >: Date: Saturday, October 31, 1998 3:23 PM : >: : >: Denise, : >: : >: This is a great site. I have an ancestor on the wall, Theobald Dauber, : >who : >: immigrated in 1873. : >: : >: I think it is too bad that there is no way to link to the person who : >applied : >: to put their ancestor on the wall. This is done every day on the web and : >: would have been easy to include. This would enable millions of people to : >: contact their "cousins", related to the immigrant ancestor. Too bad they : >: didn't have the imagination to do this. : >: : >: Still, its a good site. : >: : >: Bob O'Neal : >: : > :
Hi Jill, I must apologize for not looking further into it. It does say that there is a fee for placing a name on the wall. I had only viewed some of the names on the wall and that was of course free. Denise -----Original Message----- From: Jill O'Neall Ching <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, October 31, 1998 10:51 PM Subject: Re: [ONEALL-L] A must see!! >Hi I looked at the site, is there a fee to post a name? I read one part of >the site and it read to me that it costs $100, is that true, am I wrong? >Jill > >---------- >: From: [email protected] >: To: [email protected] >: Subject: Re: [ONEALL-L] A must see!! >: Date: Saturday, October 31, 1998 3:23 PM >: >: Denise, >: >: This is a great site. I have an ancestor on the wall, Theobald Dauber, >who >: immigrated in 1873. >: >: I think it is too bad that there is no way to link to the person who >applied >: to put their ancestor on the wall. This is done every day on the web and >: would have been easy to include. This would enable millions of people to >: contact their "cousins", related to the immigrant ancestor. Too bad they >: didn't have the imagination to do this. >: >: Still, its a good site. >: >: Bob O'Neal >: >
Good site with lots of nicknames: http://www.tngenweb.usit.com/franklin/frannick.htm ~Jill O'Neall Ching~ [email protected]
Hi I looked at the site, is there a fee to post a name? I read one part of the site and it read to me that it costs $100, is that true, am I wrong? Jill ---------- : From: [email protected] : To: [email protected] : Subject: Re: [ONEALL-L] A must see!! : Date: Saturday, October 31, 1998 3:23 PM : : Denise, : : This is a great site. I have an ancestor on the wall, Theobald Dauber, who : immigrated in 1873. : : I think it is too bad that there is no way to link to the person who applied : to put their ancestor on the wall. This is done every day on the web and : would have been easy to include. This would enable millions of people to : contact their "cousins", related to the immigrant ancestor. Too bad they : didn't have the imagination to do this. : : Still, its a good site. : : Bob O'Neal :
How thrilling it is to find relative. I agree with you that it would have been a great idea to know who submitted the name. They should have asked you first. Have a good evening. Denise -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, October 31, 1998 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [ONEALL-L] A must see!! >Denise, > >This is a great site. I have an ancestor on the wall, Theobald Dauber, who >immigrated in 1873. > >I think it is too bad that there is no way to link to the person who applied >to put their ancestor on the wall. This is done every day on the web and >would have been easy to include. This would enable millions of people to >contact their "cousins", related to the immigrant ancestor. Too bad they >didn't have the imagination to do this. > >Still, its a good site. > >Bob O'Neal >