Brenda ~ -Julia wrote- <snip> >Jim, >Well, I hope that you have something on my great-great-great grandfather >Edward O'Neal. He is supposed to have been married to a Rebecca. One of his >daughters, Keziah O'Neal, was my great-great-grandfather's mother. >Do you have anything on Edward O'Neal and his family group, parents, sibs, >children? >I would surely appreciate any information you could offer. <end of snip> I responded with all the Edward O'Neall's I have in my data base which does not appear to match the Edward she is looking for. I don't believe your Edward Newton is a match. Jim O'Neall [email protected] "Searching the past; Looking to the future"

Now John, you'll get your steak at your dad's house!! Some of us know your schedule:>) Don

i said: |then we could meat in, say, virginia. i meant "meet", of course. was that freudian? i'd love a good american steak! john

Hello List Cousins, Just wanted to add another "story". We obtained a computer about four years ago, after my son became so interested in them in middle school. We basically did so, for the benefit of his school work. However, one evening I was 'playing around' on the Internet and typed in "Martha Stewart" - no not an ancestor - but the Martha Stewart guru of crafts, cooking, growing plants, and just about everything a super human could do around the home and whom we see all over the television, magazines, etc. Well, low and behold, what should turn up as the one and only "hit", but a Marriage List from early Reynolds County, Missouri. This is where my mother's parents were from and where I had visited many times in the summers of my youth. I am related to nearly every past resident of that county and the names on that list were nearly all familiar to me! Well, that did it! I've never been the same since - and no one else in the family ever gets the computer, much as I'm always on it! Oh - I forgot all about Martha Stewart's web site, and wouldn't have time now, for any of those projects anyway as all my spare (and not so spare) moments, are spent on my family history search. I truly believe this was an event of "serendipity". I mean, what are the odds that on the entire Internet, and out of all the counties in the entire United States, this county would surface! And there wasn't even a "Martha Stewart" on that marriage list! Down right spooky! For anyone who has had such an experience, or is interested, I just got the book Psychic Roots, Serendipity and Intuition in Genealogy, by Henry Z Jones, Jr. (there's a sequel, too) from the library. Can't give a review or recommendation as just obtained it, but thought I would pass this along. It can also be purchased from the publisher, Genealogical Publishing Co. (this is where I saw it listed and no, I have no connection, in any way, to this book, author or publisher). Sorry to make this so long, but I really feel we are into something very special. Why it only comes or 'bites' certain of us, is a question. An O'Neal cousin in Kansas, Brenda [email protected]

jill, if you think salt lake city is centrally located, it means you're including hawaii in your map. (yes, i know, it's a state too. but it's "weight" should be rather small in a calculation of where the middle of the "country" is.) but ok, let's be even broader-minded then and include where i live. then we could meat in, say, virginia. hey, why not in south carolina or ohio, where so many of our relatives lived? john in france |-----Original Message----- |From: Jill O'Neall Ching [mailto:[email protected]] |Sent: Thursday, November 05, 1998 6:04 AM |To: [email protected] |Subject: Re: [ONEALL-L] Family History | | |Jim and all listmembers~~~ |I think a get together would be fantastic, we would need place, date. I am |open to any ideas..... |I think meeting in Salt Lake City, Utah might be an interesting idea.....I |only come to the Mainland once a year, and could come end of June time. I |would love it!!! |June 26-27? or after July 4 holiday time>>>> July 10 or 17??? I know Salt |Lake has facilities for groups, but I have never been there, its pretty |centrally located too......and we could do some gen digging also! |What does everyone think about this? I am willing to help orgamize, but |only if Jim and others could help. |Jill | | | | | |

Julia and James, Woops! Looks like I missed something on the List. Who needs "what" on Edward Newton O'Neal? He and Julia Bowes are my gr grandparents and I would love to hear from a 'cousin' and share what I have!! Julia - don't have your email address so please get in touch w/me and let me know what you need! Brenda in Kansas [email protected]

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I must say I'm pretty envious of all the success stories out there. The O'NEIL side of my family is the hardest one of all for me to trace. My grandfather's name was Lawrence Jeremiah O'NEIL. He was born in 1907 and died in 1961. We believe he was born in Houston, Harris. Co., TX, and I believe his parents' names were William O'NEIL and Edith COPELY. I'm not totally sure about his mother's name. (Still waiting for the social security form to come back and my dad has misplaced his dad's baptismal certificate -- he was baptized before getting married to my grandmother.) Larry worked on the railroad setting down rail during the Great Depression. From the family stories, we think he rode the rails from town to town looking for work and when he came to Omaha in the late 1930s, he was hired at the local hospital, met my grandmother, married her, but never really talked about his past. He died very young, before anyone really got the chance to ask him questions. We think he may have had a sister, since he said that my grandmother reminded him of his sister. At any rate, if anyone knows anything, I'd be interested in finding something out. This is something we are all very curious about. Sharon O'Neil Kazmierski Sharon Kazmierski Listowner, Latinteach & Latin E-mail Discussion Forums For Latin language educators and enthusiasts mailto:[email protected] Visit the UPDATED Latinteach Website at: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Styx/1790/index.html

Jim and all listmembers~~~ I think a get together would be fantastic, we would need place, date. I am open to any ideas..... I think meeting in Salt Lake City, Utah might be an interesting idea.....I only come to the Mainland once a year, and could come end of June time. I would love it!!! June 26-27? or after July 4 holiday time>>>> July 10 or 17??? I know Salt Lake has facilities for groups, but I have never been there, its pretty centrally located too......and we could do some gen digging also! What does everyone think about this? I am willing to help orgamize, but only if Jim and others could help. Jill

Brenda! You are "too" kind. Seems as though one of the things I do best is 'open mouth and insert foot'. I am sure someone with many more organizational skills than I should be heading up and 'O'Neall USA Clan Gathering'. I just fostered the idea. I would be more than willing to share some of the responsibility of getting things going if we could come up with a "good old fashioned USA type committee of O'Nealls" and put our venerable heads together. It would be such fun to meet some of these electronic cousins in real time and real flesh. Hey all you cousins on the list who are not in the USA, I would of course include you in our little gathering. Here I go again rambling on and on. Just so you all know the temp is a mere 25 degrees this evening (10:30 p.m. CST) here in the heartland of America, the nations agra center and truly God's Country, Iowa. Let me tell you, from my window you can see about as 'fer as you can see', looking over newly fall plowed black earth fields. Snow is in the forecast for tomorrow or Friday. Not much, you understand, but just a flurry to let us know that winter is just around the corner. Sometimes I envy my oldest son who lives in Texas. At least there the winters are short. Jim O'Neall [email protected] "Searching the past; Looking to the future"

I belong to the rootsweb Love list as well as this one and many others. We had a meeting such as you are talking about. We all met at Dallas, stayed at a big motel over the weekend , talked ourselves hoarse, shared our genealogy papers, used our Laptop computers , went out to eat together and get acquainted and although we were not all from the same love family , we all learned a lot and came away from the meeting with many ideas . Only about 15 to 20 people showed up this year we found it worthwhile. People came from Canada, Washington State, Minnesota, Kentucky , Arkansas and all parts of Texas . If the O'Neal's want to do this just GO FOR IT! Mary Russell [email protected] >Jim, >Really enjoyed your "ramblings" and just wanted to say, I love the idea of all >we "O'Neal" cousins, getting together, here in the US of A! Just tell us >where and when! ( Don't you love having it all delegated, to you?) >

Oh I think she knows Tdsfw.......I'm really enjoying everyones stories about how each got into genealogy and I realized I haven't told mine for a long, long time on this forum.....so here goes......I grew up with a Mom who loved to talk and a Pop who rarely spoke, but when he did it was meaningful. As a child I was enriched with having my maternal grandma live with our family for several years, she was the first old person I truly loved, white hair, always wore apron, nipped a drink, etc. I also had my Nannie and Grandpa, who were my Dad's parents, Nannie was always sick and Grandpa was a Judge and a chef at holiday time, typical turkey carving, robust fellow, big smile and laugh, beautiful home. Nannie was very matronly and high brow. Then I had my great grandparents, the Patten's who were my Nannie's parents, he was a carpenter, she a doll restorer. So I had 5 grandparents as a child, pretty lucky and it was always special to visit them. When I was in 8th grade I had a family tree to do and I started to put down the Judge as my grandfather......Mom stopped me. She said Frank Baker was not my actual grandfather, but that his name was O'Neil, I said, What? She went on to tell me my Dad had been adopted by Nannie's second husband who was too young to be Dad's natural pop anyway. Well I had a zillion questions but Mom didn't know anything (not even his first name) and she warned me not to ask Dad or Nannie, and she said they both hated the O'Neil. She called him The O'Neil ! Oh geeezzzzzzzzzzz........this drove me nuts...........all I could do was write down a dead family tree, this was in 1964 about. As I became a teenager I used to fantacize about changing my name to Jill O'Neil....and I practiced writing and signing my name like this.....years later my sis got into genealogy and sent me a tree and it had all of Judge Baker's family on it, nice pedigree, the Fairbanke's family of Dedham Mass is his mother, etc. I told her its wrong......then my aunt got interested, finally one of the children of the O'Neil willing to talk, since I was here in Hawaii I left it to my sis to work on this, and my interest was in other things (but it was always in the back of my mind). Well in 1994 they found out his name from SSDI records and requested his death cert and then contacted the informant of the cert who knew my real gramps his whole life. In June 1995 I bought a computer and joined my sister, aunt, my sis' mother-in-law and 2 neices on an overland adventure to Hermiston and LaGrande Oregon to meet Walter Primm, our gramps friend, he showed us pics, we picked his brain, we visited cemeteries, houses and more, it was lovely, he told us the life story of Charles Edward O'Neall my grandfather. We got copies of everything, and he told us of his neice Joann and we went to see her in Klamath Falls and she gave us an album of pictures, there were photos of my Dad and aunts as youths, and so much more. IT was really something.....Joann used to ask Charles, don't you think you have grandchildren? And he said yes he thought he must......he lived til 1987, and I surely wish I would of found him sooner, but then my Dad would of been so upset, and he lived til 1994, so I think in a way it was meant to be exactly the way it turned out. This unravelled mystery is how I got involved in genealogy, it been a short time, but I have spent thousands of hours since that trip to find my grandfather. Sometimes families are separated in life and can only be reconciled by time, I found out the lies that Charles' mother had told him about my grandmother were just that, and he was not a scoundrel and a bootlegger, but a man who worked for the railroad his whole life and died wondering about his 36 descendants he never knew. Yes its sad, but now at least we know our past and our children will know too, where we came from and who we are................and the family secret has been revealed finally. After this trip I wrote a story and collected all the data together, and also copied all the other lines my sis had worked on so diligently. Walter had told us there might be another brothers family and I have found them too and hope to see them when I move back to California in a couple of years. The following Spring, Walter died too, but not before passing on the legacy of his old pal to his grateful family. By then we had started this oneall list, I had connected my grandfather to Hugh and Annie O'Neall and found lots of cousins online from the same tree. And now I always sign my name proudly, Jill O'Neall Ching. <3 ---------- : From: [email protected] : To: [email protected] : Subject: Re: [ONEALL-L] Success stories~How you became interested in Family History : Date: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 8:37 PM : : My mother started researching in the late 1960's, due to her Step-Father, : Albert Walker : Torrans, telling her that he did not know his grandfather's name. : This led to several years of searching for the family of my grandpa (step or : not)-----during this time Mom began to search for her own Roots...... : For over 25 years, with NO computer, she amassed boxes and boxes of paperwork. : She joined genealogical societies (pouring over their publications), wrote : letters by the thousands, logged hundreds of hours on the telephone, visited : cemeteries, and family every chance she got on trips to TX and LA from her : home in Calif. : : Bless her heart, everytime a conversation started, it got into : genealogy------with everybody. : My children were embarassed, and she had me totally confused on which family : went with : who. : : In 1991, Mother passed on, and I was left to sort through the boxes and boxes : of family : group sheets, census records, letters, bits and pieces of information written : on everything. : Not realizing that all the families were jumbled together---including what : little she had been : able to sniff out on my Father's family. : : It took me 4 years, of dabbling here and there. By February of last year I : was hooked totally on this unending quest. : : I still don't have all her research in the computer----but I have managed to : add several generations to the tree. I hope she knows that she left a legacy : that has been carried on : and hopefully will find another after. : : This has been one of the most exciting and fun things (besides my business) : that I have : ever done. My only regret being that I didn't get the "bug" sooner, what fun : and what discoveries we could have made together. Thank you Mom : : : : Researching: Squyres, O'Neal, Adair, Pyburn, Rhame, Bazer, Smith, Mosley, : Wilson, : Hartsell, Cline, Anderson All wound up in LA or TX :

Hello List, My half-hearted genealogy research came to a halt about 3 years ago when it grew to the point I couldn't keep it organized. My husband came to my rescue and helped me put all my genealogy information on the computer. In the process he became interested and caught the bug. This is the first hobby we have ever shared. We both became consumed. Our goal is to write a book for each of our grandchildren which parallels the child's family tree with history. Since we both began 3 years ago we have contacted relatives we didn't know we had. Found cousins all over the USA. We found an 80 year old Great Aunt living in North Carolina who had looked unsuccessfully for my husband for years in order to give him his grandmother's Bible. What a blessing. On the other hand we just missed by one week meeting a Great Uncle who died at age 100 and knew information we needed. I knew little of my Mom's family (O'Neals) because of the divorce of her parents when she was four. But in August of this year I spent a delightful day touring the old family homeplace in Lincoln Co., TN. with my Mom's fourth cousin whom we had never met. Russell O'Neal and his wife treated us to a day of true Southern Hospitality. Genealogy has given us a connection with family we were unable to have before. Trisha

Hi, I am sending your request on to the oneall discussion list for their input (see below) I suggest you join the group, its free let me know if you wish too......you are right, contact the Vital Records in Sacramento CA for the marriage record, the cost is $12. Also find the death certs of your grandparents, and their marriage and birth records, obits help too. And if you know where they are living in 1900, 1910 and 1920 look for them in census records, I suggest you visit the Family History Center at the largest Mormon church in your area and tell them you are new to this and ask for some help.......its free and you don't need to be Mormon, as for the spelling, look for all possibles.Ask your mother who all her aunts and uncles were so you have the names of all the children in birth order...... anyone else have suggestions, send them directly to papasunny address too please. Thanks for writing and good luck, Jill ---------- : From: [email protected] : To: [email protected] : Subject: where do i start : Date: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 9:41 PM : : My mother, maiden name Ruth O'Neil, doesn't know anything about her ancestry : beyond her father and mother. My mother was born in 1915 or 1916 in Oakland : Claifornia. Her father was James O'Neal (you see the different spellings of : O'Neil--my mother's mother and farther separated soon after she was born and : her mother changed the sprelling of the name to keep him from finding her) and : her mother was formerly named Rose McGuire. My understanding is that their : marriage took place in Oakland. My mother remembers her father singing to her : about the sidewalks of new york ("uptown, downtown, all around the town....). : her mother worked in gloverville new york before coming to Oakland, Ca. but my : mother thinks her mother may have been born in Boston. My mother's mother died : in a car wreck in Yakima (spelling?), washington in 1945 and her father also : diied in Washington state but when, where, or how is unknown. : : That is not much to go on, but i would love to be able to learn more before my : mother dies---she is 83 or 84 (depending on her actual birth date). I suspect : my best chance might be to track down an obit for her mother in Yakima or to : find marriage records for her parents. : : Can you help? : : thanks for your consideration, : : Michael Sunnafrank

Hi Betty, I assume you have looked at the census for Laurel? City Directories? Searched Margie's house for documents, letters? I would investigate every O'Neal in Laurel....thanks for sharing your story, Jill ---------- : From: [email protected] : To: [email protected] : Subject: Re: [ONEALL-L] Success stories~How you became interested in Family History : Date: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 11:51 AM : : Enjoyed your story on how you got "hooked" on geneology and searching for you : roots. I have been involved for several years doing research on my Mother's : family. Found a lot of info in the New Orleans main library; they have copies : of ships' logs and newspapers. : A nephew, Major David O'Neal, US Army Special Forces, stationed in Germany, : was contacted by someone who found him on the "net"; he got me hooked again in : researching my Dad's roots. I know so little about Dad's family other than : that my Grandfather, James Albert O'Neal was from Mississippi. He was married : to Almeda Russell and they had three children - my Dad, Clarence L. O'Neal, : Sr. (David's grandfather), Uriel O'Neal and Margie O'Neal Cadle. Margie is : still alive, living in Houma, Louisiana but has suffered a series of strokes : and has Alzheimers so I am unable to get any info out of her. : Is there any O'Neal out there who might know anything about the O'Neal family : in or around Laurel, Mississippi? Would really like to hear from them. : Aloha from Hawaii, : Betty O'Neal Thatcher :

Julia - Looks like I am not going to be of much value to you. these are the Edward O'Neal's I have in my data base ____________________________________ Edward Newton O'Neall b. March 21, 1846 Salem IN d. May 11, 1906 Braynor MO m. Julia Augusta Bowes March 23, 1873 MO b. March 1857 PA ______________________________________ ______________________________ Edward O'Neall b. ? m. Sue ? _____________________________ _____________________________ Charles Edward O'Neall b. September 30, 1900 IL d. March 1987 OR m. Edith Minnie Patten July 03, 1922 OR b. August 23, 1904 SD d. November 27, 1967 CA ___________________________________ _____________________ Edward Dennis O'Neall b. October 21, 1959 WA _____________________ __________________ Robert Edward O'Neall b. July 11, 1922 KS m. Joan Churchman ? m. Mary Burke ? __________________________ ______________________________ Richard Edward O'Neall (my brother) b. 1941 IA m. Karen M. Smith 1963 IA b. 1944 IA _______________________________ Don't think any of these match to your Edward O'Neal. Do you have any clue as to his fathers name. I ran Keziah through my program also and didn't get a match. I am sure there are grandchildren of Hugh O'Neall that we are not aware of, perhaps either out of wed-lock children or children not registered anywhere that we have looked to date. If you can find any more little tid-bits about place of birth or approximate date of birth it sure would help you and all of us with trying to make a match. I have even run across the instance where a name as "Edward" was not the given name but a name that was used in a particular place of residence and makes it really hard to trace him that way. Keep looking and I will do the same, just maybe we will come up with something. Jim O'Neall [email protected] "Searching the past; Looking to the future"

At 01:01 PM 11/4/98 EST, [email protected] wrote: >In searching for an elusive ancestor in one my other lines, I was looking at >info >about the 26th INF from Alabama (CSA) which was taken into the Army of >Northern Virginia at one point. >The unit was listed as , in this order I believe as Rode's Brigade, ON'EAL'S >BRIGADE, Battles Brigade. >Does anyone know anything about this O'Neal ?? >Eternally curious, Emma in NM > > Hi Emma, Yes, This was Col. Edwin Asbury O'Neal from Florence, Alabama. He was then a Brig. General. His Brigade was involved in several major battles, the most "famous" being Gettysburg. He was a Lawyer. After the War, he was instrumental in reestablishing the Democratic Party in the South. He was the elected Governor of Alabama (2 terms). His son, Elliott O'Neal was also a Lawyer and served as Governor of Alabama. They are part of my O'Neal family line. Cheers, Cliff Fiveash Pensacola, Florida [email protected]

Hello List I became interested in the " O'Neal " family history due my sister researching our roots on the Wilson,Troublefield,Tate,Rodgers,Henderson,Lines,etc. I then realized there was little information to "pass on" to the O'Neal descendants of the O'Neal line. I remembered bits and pieces of conversations with "names", etc. The fact my father-in-law Elmer Horace O'Neal (nickname *smile* "Dick"-?) said they came from Bedford Co. TN. After obtaining death certificates this inf. was verified., His father was Merit Elehaus b 30 Jan 1864 TN MD Mary Ada Best b 22 Jan 1865 TN on 10 Aug 1881 in Bedford Co. TN. All are buried in David Cemetery Henderson Co.,Tx. Merit Elehaus and Mary Ada were in Bell Co. TX. by 1910 with six of their 8 children. HOWEVER they are in Henderson Co., TX by 1912 Merit Elehaus has the name of "Richard" O. /R.O. and is BURIED under this name. These are definitely one and the same person. I located a John O'Neal b 1800 in SC(from census) in 1850 Coffee Co. TN with a son Elihu O'Neal b @ 1836 in 1850 whom I think is the father of my Merit Elehaus I have yet to locate additional information. If anyone can shed any light on any of "my "'O'Neal" descendants (I claim to be as much O'Neal as I am Wilson Since I married into the family @ age 16) and still live on the " family home Place". Anyone that can connect to or has additional inf. on this family would be greatly appreciated. Sorry this is so long! Norma O'Neal

Enjoyed your story on how you got "hooked" on geneology and searching for you roots. I have been involved for several years doing research on my Mother's family. Found a lot of info in the New Orleans main library; they have copies of ships' logs and newspapers. A nephew, Major David O'Neal, US Army Special Forces, stationed in Germany, was contacted by someone who found him on the "net"; he got me hooked again in researching my Dad's roots. I know so little about Dad's family other than that my Grandfather, James Albert O'Neal was from Mississippi. He was married to Almeda Russell and they had three children - my Dad, Clarence L. O'Neal, Sr. (David's grandfather), Uriel O'Neal and Margie O'Neal Cadle. Margie is still alive, living in Houma, Louisiana but has suffered a series of strokes and has Alzheimers so I am unable to get any info out of her. Is there any O'Neal out there who might know anything about the O'Neal family in or around Laurel, Mississippi? Would really like to hear from them. Aloha from Hawaii, Betty O'Neal Thatcher

Jim, Really enjoyed your "ramblings" and just wanted to say, I love the idea of all we "O'Neal" cousins, getting together, here in the US of A! Just tell us where and when! ( Don't you love having it all delegated, to you?) Thanks again for all the great help you've been to me! I think your grandfather would be very pleased to know how you've helped spread the O'Neal- O'Neall 'knowledge'. Brenda in Kansas