Hello Carol: I suspect your "Enniskillen Church Diary" is a publication of the Bowmanville Museum. I recall reading the same article. My grandfather (Alfred RICHARDS) was working at Sylvester's in Enniskillen when he met my grandmother (Zilla PARKIN). They were married in 1897, so that will give you a time frame. I grew up in Bowmanville, and visited Enniskillen occasionally, but never knew about Sylvester's until I started doing genealogy. I believe there is a picture (drawing) of the place in the Tremaine atlas. The main reason I'm writing is to say that I too am researching FEE. My wife is descended from the immigrant FEE family who settled in Emily Township in 1819. Can I help you with that family? Alan E. Richards, London, Ont. Subject: Virtues & Sylvesters in Enniskillen Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 20:52:34 -0800 From: Carol Williams <CarolW@islandnet.com> To: ONDURHAM-L@rootsweb.com I am researching Enniskillen, too and was sent a copy of an article about the town. Unfortunately I do not know where it is from, but it is entilted "Enniskillen Church Diary" and is written by Dr J N Hutchison of Winnipeg in May 1939. He mentions the founding families of the Anglican Church (which I have seen referred to as the "English Church"). John Virtue and family and Archy Virtue and family, just east of the village are amongst the listed. He also talks about a graveyard of pioneers associated with the church. The family I am looking into the family of Henry Sylvester and his two sons Robert & Richard Sylvester. They had an Agricultural machine works in Enniskillen. At 13:58 24/01/00 -0400, you wrote: >On 24 Jan 00, at 10:21, Leah Joys wrote: > >> My husband's gggrandfather, Robert Virtue (abt. 1771 - Sept. 16, >> 1861) I had thought was born in Enniskillen, County Fermanagh, >> in N. Ireland. But now there is a possibility that he was born in > >Scotland. > Carol Williams carolw@islandnet.com researching: Sylvester, Touchburn, Gillis, & Fee in Ontario, Michie in London; Watkinson in Liverpool; MacKenzie in Edinburgh

Hi Penny... I just noticed that you were wondering about 1851 census returns for Cavan. Cavan was part of the Newcastle District til the districts were abolished in favour of the present county system around 1850 or so. There are the following: Cavan NEWCASTLE DISTRICT 1819-1823 (microfilm call #M-7737) 1825-1848 (microfilm call #M-7737) 1850 (microfilm call #M-7737) These are available through the Inter-Library loan program from the Archives of Ontario. If you live in Ontario, your library will order these (& all Ontario) census rolls. Just expect a bit of a wait. I've ordered some that took two months to get to my library. Others were there in a couple of weeks. Also, the Canadian Archives offers the same service for all canadian census rolls. An excellent guide (a copy of which I own) is: CENSUS RETURNS/RECENSEMENTS 1666-1891 published by the Public Archives of Canada. This gives a list of all enumeration districts in Canada, by microfilm call number, for most of the Canadian censuses & some regional censuses. There are some censuses that just covered small areas that are not listed. There is usually a well thumbed edition is all libraries. Also, there is a 1901 edition (which I don't own). Regards, Chris Bradshaw bradshawchris@home.com Searching for BRADSHAW in Paisley Scotland SMITH/COOPER in Rosedale North Riding Yorkshire HAY in Cruden Bay Aberdeenshire Scotland FORAN/WHITE Buffalo NY and Canada WEBSTER in Wexford Ireland MCDERMID/MCNEIL/TAYLOR IN Argyllshire Scotland TAYLOR/FINNIE in Aberdeenshire Irish HENDERSONs in Ontario Irish CAIRNS/CARNS/KEARNS in Norfolk Co. Ontario DOWSON/BARKER/HALTON in North Riding Yorkshire ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Witheridge" <kathpaul@ebtech.net> To: <ONDURHAM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: January 24, 2000 8:09 AM Subject: Re: Glenn-Bruce marriage look-up > On 23 Jan 00, at 20:24, pparker@compusmart.ab.ca wrote: > > > Do you have any suggestions as to how to access earlier records in Cavan? > > There is no census for 1851 that I can find, and the Methodist > > ministers were circuit riders who often didn't have a church. I have > > been told that there is a Millbrook Methodist church. Any suggestions > > on who might be able to access their records? Alberta is a long way > > away. > > Hi Penny; > > Are you a member of the Whitby/Oshawa branch of the Ontario > Genealogical Society? If not, maybe this would be a great help to you. > They have indexed quite a few churches and chapels in Durham County. > > I have been a member for many years and have had lots of help from > them. > > I do believe that you can order some of the early parish registers through > the Family History Centres, but you would have to check into this. > > Kind regards > Kathy Witheridge > Sarnia, Ontario, Canada >

Hello Donna, Geographically, Beaverton is included in Durham Region North. I can't recall seeing any rootsweb info on it. Good hunting, Bev

I am researching Enniskillen, too and was sent a copy of an article about the town. Unfortunately I do not know where it is from, but it is entilted "Enniskillen Church Diary" and is written by Dr J N Hutchison of Winnipeg in May 1939. He mentions the founding families of the Anglican Church (which I have seen referred to as the "English Church"). John Virtue and family and Archy Virtue and family, just east of the village are amongst the listed. He also talks about a graveyard of pioneers associated with the church. The family I am looking into the family of Henry Sylvester and his two sons Robert & Richard Sylvester. They had an Agricultural machine works in Enniskillen. At 13:58 24/01/00 -0400, you wrote: >On 24 Jan 00, at 10:21, Leah Joys wrote: > >> My husband's gggrandfather, Robert Virtue (abt. 1771 - Sept. 16, >> 1861) I had thought was born in Enniskillen, County Fermanagh, >> in N. Ireland. But now there is a possibility that he was born in > >Scotland. > Carol Williams carolw@islandnet.com researching: Sylvester, Touchburn, Gillis, & Fee in Ontario, Michie in London; Watkinson in Liverpool; MacKenzie in Edinburgh

On 24 Jan 00, at 10:21, Leah Joys wrote: > My husband's gggrandfather, Robert Virtue (abt. 1771 - Sept. 16, > 1861) I had thought was born in Enniskillen, County Fermanagh, > in N. Ireland. But now there is a possibility that he was born in > Scotland. Hi Leah; The only census I have is the 1871 and your Robert Virtue was dead at this time. However, members of the Virtue family living in Durham County in 1871, most of them were Irish, but a large number from other areas of Ontario were Scotch. There were also Virtues from Britain. I took a look in my book 'Out of the Mists' - A History of Clarke Township by Helen Schmid and Sid Rutherford. On page 238 I found the following: "Orono Plough Works..................... The foundry was sold in 1869 to John McCullough who operated the business for 14 years. Moulders employed during the 1870's included Samuel P. Maxwell and Robert Virtue." This might not have been your Robert, but could it have been his son? The 1861 Tremain's Map Transactions, under Darlington Twp., shows that Robert Virtue owned Lot 32 in Conc., 8, and a John Virtue owned Lot 17 in Conc., 8. There was also an Archibald Virtue at Lot 17 in Conc., 8. Do you think that there might be a connection? According to the Surrogate Court Index for Durham/Northumberland Counties, there is a Will for Robert Virtue, as follows: VIRTUE, Robert of Darlington - #455, 1867 Maybe if you obtained a copy of the Will it might help you some. Kind regards Kathy Witheridge Sarnia, Ontario, Canada

My husband's gggrandfather, Robert Virtue (abt. 1771 - Sept. 16, 1861) I had thought was born in Enniskillen, County Fermanagh, in N. Ireland. But now there is a possibility that he was born in Scotland. He was married to a Philina Morrison who was Scottish. I am not sure as to the date Robert and Philina and their eleven children (I had thought they were all born in Ireland but this too is in doubt) came to Enniskillen, Ontario, where Robert took up homesteading on a Crown Land Grant east of Enniskillen village on Lots 17 and 18, Concession 8, Darlington Township. They most likely came before 1842 but I wish I could get a more specific date. Does anybody have access to Darlington Township censuses that might give the place of birth as either Scotland or Ireland? Robert died on Sept. 16, 1861 at Enniskillen. Thanking you in advance, Leah Joys (Medicine Hat, Alberta)

On 24 Jan 00, at 10:01, Donna Hawes wrote: > Could you please tell me if ONDURHAM cover the area of BEAVERTON, > ONTARIO. > If not would you know if there is a Rootsweb that does and what it > is called. Hi Donna; I am not one hundred per cent sure of the answer. I personally have never seen it in Durham information. So far as I am aware, Beaverton may be in Victoria County. Maybe there is someone on the list that could advise more accurately. Kind regards Kathy Witheridge Sarnia, Ontario, Canada

On 24 Jan 00, at 10:43, olear15@attglobal.net wrote: > I noticed your reply to Astrid which contained info from Ontario Co. > Marriage Registers. Do you have ready access to this? I am looking for > any information on my MONTGOMERY family. At this point, about all I > have to go on is that George MONTGOMERY, my gr.grf, was b. in Whitby, > Ontario, Canada . I've found a number of Whitbys and am unsure if this > means Ontario Co, or the province of Ontario. His mother was Isabelle > CUNNINGHAM, father's given name is unknown. George was b. 12 Nov 1844, Hi Marilyn; The Ontario County Marriage Registers 1858-1869, show: Agnes MONTGOMERYof Pickering d/o John, married Thomas D. HAIGHT of Maryborough, s/o John - REF: 1863 - 1:223 Catherine MONTGOMERY of Pickering d/o John, married James MACKIE of Pickering, s/o James - REF: 1861 - 1:135 George MONTGOMERY of Georgina s/o Isaac, married Martha GODFREY of Georgina d/o David - REF: 1860 - 1:131 I took a look in the Durham County Newspaper Index, but there are far too many MONTGOMERY listings for my to type. Kind regards Kathy Witheridge Sarnia, Ontario, Canada

Dear Kathy, Could you please tell me if ONDURHAM cover the area of BEAVERTON, ONTARIO. If not would you know if there is a Rootsweb that does and what it is called. Many thanks, Donna Hawes

On 21 Jan 00, at 21:59, Dave West wrote: > Many thanks for your efforts in searching for my ANGELINA WEST, your > efforts are most appreciated. > > The two WESTs (James and Samuel) you found on Tramain's maps were > Angelina's brothers-in-law. > > Any idea what a "pathmaster" is? Should it be "postmaster"? Hi Dave; It definately says "pathmaster" and it had me wondering too. I looked in the dictionary and the encyclopedia, but couldn't come up with anything. Maybe there is someone on the list that could advise. Kind regards Kathy Witheridge Sarnia, Ontario, Canada

On 23 Jan 00, at 20:24, pparker@compusmart.ab.ca wrote: > Do you have any suggestions as to how to access earlier records in Cavan? > There is no census for 1851 that I can find, and the Methodist > ministers were circuit riders who often didn't have a church. I have > been told that there is a Millbrook Methodist church. Any suggestions > on who might be able to access their records? Alberta is a long way > away. Hi Penny; Are you a member of the Whitby/Oshawa branch of the Ontario Genealogical Society? If not, maybe this would be a great help to you. They have indexed quite a few churches and chapels in Durham County. I have been a member for many years and have had lots of help from them. I do believe that you can order some of the early parish registers through the Family History Centres, but you would have to check into this. Kind regards Kathy Witheridge Sarnia, Ontario, Canada

Hi Kathy, Thank you so much for your willingness to look up records in Durham. I have THOMAS BRUCE m. MARY GLENN in Caven Twsp., Durham Co. in either 1842 or 1844 (census record and obit have differing dates). Tom and Mary subsequently moved to Huron Co. with the rest of the GLENN family. I am aware that there was a large BRUCE family that settled in Cartwright Twsp, but have been unable to connect Tom to them. Both Tom and Mary emigrated from Fermanagh Ireland in 1840. I have been unable to find a marriage record for Tom and Mary, and am hoping that you can help. I am hoping that the marriage record (if one exists) will list parents of the bride and groom. They list their religious affiliation as Methodist in the Huron census in 1861. Thank you in advance Best regards, Penny Parker pparker@compusmart.ab.ca

My gg-grandfather, George Porteous - a resident of Reach Township (possibly around present-day Utica), - was admitted to the Toronto Lunatic Asylum on December 28, 1870 and died there in July, 1898. George's was a "warrant case", meaning a warrant was issued to the sheriff of Ontario County (a gentleman by the name of Nelson Gilbert Reynolds) to have him transported from the local "gaol" to the asylum in Toronto. The warrant is dated December 20, 1870. This would mean that perhaps there was some kind of "to do" or incident that landed George in jail some time before that date. My questions: What local newspapers should I check? Might some of these newspapers be indexed (other than births, marriages and deaths)? Is whatever incident that led to George's incarceration likely to have been reported? Thanks for any light subscribers might be able to shed on this issue. --Doug

Hello Kathy, This is certainly wonderful for you to share your library and I would really appreciaate a look up in the Durham County Marriages. I am having a rough time with these Harrisons; property was at Lot 10, Concession 5, Manvers Township, 1846 until after 1901. Robert Harrison. 1. I need to know if his parents were James Harrison and 1. Jane Costes or 2. Mary Ann Harkness. If they are not I will know for sure I am on the wrong track. James appears to have married twice. Possibly two marriages for Robert Harrison. 1. Robert Harrison and Agness with a son James born 1865; and James marries Elizabeth Strong, d/o Robert and Mary Strong in 1879. 2. Robert Harrison and Jane Leary with children Robert, Richard, Benjamin and Thomas William. For sure a Robert Harrison and Jane Leary are parents of Benjamin born 5 May 1871 and Thomas William born 2 Jun 1873. Have certificates. Thank you for your interest and your time. Marg. Hutton Here is a death certificate I noted and would like to share as it gives so much information. Not my family though. LDS microfilm 1854468. Death registration number 021229. County of Durham, division of Manvers. Mary Johnston died 25 Dec 1908 at Lot 23 Con 6 Manvers. Born 4 May 1817, age 91 years, born Ireland. Widowed. Her parents were Edward McCaul and Isabella Hill, both born Ireland. Dr. Hamilton, of Bethany. Registered by Richard Johnston, Bethany. In the medical part she is referred to as Mrs. James Johnston. Robert and Margaret Hutton 2104 Cypress Road Comox, BC V9M 3Z5 rkhutton@mars.ark.com

In a message dated 1/21/00 3:40:10 PM Central Standard Time, davewest@sympatico.ca writes: << Solina is west of Hampton on Concession Road 6 at Solina Road. Hampton is about 6 km north of Bowmanville. >> To narrow it down a little further, Solina is located at approximately Lot 23/24, Concession 6. I grew up on Solina Road. :-) Susan, in Houston (now)

Hi Carol-Anne, I have the book "A Place called Solina" Solina History: Solina, Ontario - Also know as Eldad, Ontario Quoted from the book : When word came that a Post Office was to be installed in the village Mr. Hughes called the young men of the community together. "Pilchardtown?" he scoffed, "The name has neither dignity nor distinction. We shall select another". Accordingly he wrote on the blackboard three consonants: L, N and S. He added three voles: A, I and O. "Now", announced this enterprising schoolmaster, "you will each fashion a name from these six letters. Then we shall take a vote to decide what the name of this place is to be." The decision was unanimous. SOLINA was the name chosen..... I went surfing on the net and came up with the following: Ontario Cemetery Finding Aid listing I typed in Solina on "Edit" and "Find in page" http://www.islandnet.com/ocfa/cemlist1.html County: Durham; Township: Darlington Eldad United, Solina Found MapBlast!! has a map of Solina! http://www.mapblast.com/mblast/index.mb Just click Vicinity to Quick Canadian map of.....type in Solina.....Wala! Querying Canadian Geographical Names http://GeoNames.NRCan.gc.ca/cgi-bin/sima_unique_v3?english?FCSLK?C Larger scale map : Solina , Ontario Shows some places in the general vicinity of Solina, Ontario http://GeoNames.NRCan.gc.ca/cgi-bin/macduff_v3?35?435800?784700?Solina?Ontario Hope this helps, now we know where Solina is located :) Debbie :) Vancouver, BC Canada

Solina is west of Hampton on Concession Road 6 at Solina Road. Hampton is about 6 km north of Bowmanville. Kathy Witheridge wrote: > > On 17 Jan 00, at 20:50, Carol-Anne Hamilton wrote: > > > I am not familiar with Solina. Can you tell us where it is etc.? > > Hi Carol-Anne; > > Not quite sure! It is not on a current map. I know that at one time it was > named Pilchardtown. > > Maybe there is someone out there that could tell us just where it is. > > > Kind regards > Kathy Witheridge > Sarnia, Ontario, Canada

On 17 Jan 00, at 20:47, Carol-Anne Hamilton wrote: > 1. Robert Porter died in Manvers Twnship, January 11, 1873. The > death certificate notes the cause of death as "frozen feet for 18 > days". If you count back 18 days that is Xmas eve. I would love to > know the circumstances of what happened that Xmas eve in 1872. Any > suggestions? I have not been able to determine where Robert is buried. > I have checked OCFA and all Manvers cemetery transcriptions. Hi Carol-Anne; The death is not in the Durham County Newspaper Index. However, if you read some local Newspapers for Christmas 1872, there might have been some mention of weather conditions. > 2. The same Robert Porter was married to my 3g-grandmother Bessie > Hall Hamilton. It was Bessie's 2nd marriage. She had 4 children by > this second marriage: Mathew, Lydia, Jane and Ann. I have tracked > the first 3 children, however Ann continues to elude me. She is in > the 1851 and 1861 census living at home in Manvers but then I lose the > trail. She was born 1840 in Ireland. I have checked all marriage > indices, cemetery inscriptions for Manvers, Ontario archive BMD > records and all yield nothing. I have taken a look in the Surrogate Court Index for Durham/Northumberland Counties and found the following: PORTER, Ann Jane of Manvers - #2400, 1888 PORTER, Archibald of Port Hope - #2755. 1890 PORTER, David of Manvers - #3307, 1893 PORTER, Francis of Manvers - #3083, 1892 PORTER, Henry of Cramahe - #663, 1871 PORTER, John of Manvers - #4247, 1898 PORTER, Marshall of Bowmanville - #3626, 1895 PORTER, William Henry of Port Hope - #1724, 1882 PORTER, William James of Cobourg -#2645, 1889 Don't know if any of the above are of any use to you, but cannot find much else. Kind regards Kathy Witheridge Sarnia, Ontario, Canada

On 18 Jan 00, at 8:47, Ernie Rowe wrote: > Looking for information on Mary Thomas Manuel, father Jacques or > Elando Manuel, came ot Ca in 1839 to Columbus or Whitby. Hi Willa; Found the following marriage in the Ontario County Marriage Registers for Durham County: Thomas H. MANUEL, 21 of Oshawa, born England, s/o Elijah and Catherine, married Apr 11, 1867, to Elizabeth J. SADDLER, 21 of Whitby Town, born England, d/o Robert and Martha In the Durham County Newspaper Index: MANUEL, Catharine, died in Bowmanville, Nov 30, 1896, aged 79 years, w/o Elijah MANUEL, Elijah, died May 18, 1900, aged 86 years. Buried in Bowmanville Kind regards Kathy Witheridge Sarnia, Ontario, Canada

On 17 Jan 00, at 20:50, Carol-Anne Hamilton wrote: > I am not familiar with Solina. Can you tell us where it is etc.? Hi Carol-Anne; Not quite sure! It is not on a current map. I know that at one time it was named Pilchardtown. Maybe there is someone out there that could tell us just where it is. Kind regards Kathy Witheridge Sarnia, Ontario, Canada