In reference to the message below about Dionysius Oliver of Elbert County, please be very careful with names and relationships. You have mixed together two different unrelated Oliver families. There were two completely unrelated lines that lived in Elbert County, GA from 1795-1830. The large Dionysius Oliver family of Petersburg and the smaller Caleb Oliver family of Vann's Creek and Ruckersville, originally from Orange Co., VA. In the list of siblings of Dionysius Oliver below (Some are actually his children), you have a Seaborn and Seborn Oliver of Tallapoosa Co, and a Nancy T. Oliver. Those belong to the Caleb Oliver Family. Further down you have a "John J Oliver" and "Rachel Lucy Oliver", wife of Thomas Cotton, were not children of Rev. Florence M. Oliver. These are children of Caleb Oliver and not related to the Dionysius line. The "Milly T. Oliver" who married Asa Mann was also from the Caleb Oliver family, not the Dionysius line. I hope this helps a little. Robert C. Johnston, Jr. Wetumpka, AL -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 2:01 AM To: [email protected] Subject: OLIVER Digest, Vol 4, Issue 148 OLIVER Most Wanted http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/oliver.html Today's Topics: 1. Re: Dionysius Oliver ([email protected]) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 12:57:53 EDT From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [OLIVER] Dionysius Oliver To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, I am trying to prove that I am related to Dioysius Oliver's sister Ann or Mary Ann. Check Edgefield SC genweb. I have found a lot of info there. He founded Petersburg, GA in Elbert County, GA by selling the Bounty land from the state of GA that he recieved after the Revolutionary War. Information is very confusing as there several different Dioysious Olivers, Peter Oliver and Berrien Oliver. I think his wife was Polly. She could have been his son or nephew's wife. His father was Thomas Oliver of Petersburg, VA. His brothers and sisters were: Eleanor Oliver Mary Ann Oliver Thompson Hancock? John Oliver Peter Oliver Martha Oliver Jane Oliver Ragsdale McCarty Oliver James Oliver Francis Oliver William Oliver His children were Martha Oliver Hancock Seaborn Oliver ?Davidson Baptist Church Cemetery, Tallapoosa County, AL_ Seborn Oliver b. 1848 d. 1900 (This is probably his son/grandson as he died about 1827.) Nancy T. Oliver b. 1854 d. 1948? Beryan/Berrien Oliver Dionysius Oliver Peter Oliver? William Oliver whose family ended up in Tallassee, AL. ?www.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/al/alfiles.htm? Dorothy Burandt [email protected] ?Chief efau Hadjo, Mad Dog,of the Wind Tribe became Chief of the Creek Indian Nation in 1793 when he succeded Alexander McGillivray. The Creek Nation at that time consisted of the Wind Tribe who were the most elite, the Upper Creeks and the Lower Creeks. He lived in Tuckabatchee which is near present day Tallassee. He signed Treatys as early as 1765 and as late as 1802. In 1929, the Alabama Antropological Society placed a monument marking the Creek Indian Nation at the great Council Tree in Tuckabatchee where the Wind Tribe resided.The monument mentions Chief Efau hadjo. The monument has been moved to present day Tallassee. There is nothing now to mark Tuchabatchee. Big Woman was the daughter of Chief Mad Dog. She was married first to Tom Low and had a daughter, Anny Low. She then married Alexander Cornell and had 3 children, Suckey, Charles, Hawkins. Big Woman was a full blooded Creek and I believe Alexander Cornell to be white. Alexander Cornell was the interpreter to Benjamin Hawkins, the Indian Agent as early as 1784. Anny Low first married George Goodwin, then Polly Miles. One daughter was born, Mary Lou Miles, on July 24, 1824 at Pidgeon Creek, AL. Mary Lou Miles maried James Cornell Oliver in 1837, son of William Oliver and Mary Kean. William Oliver is the 6th son of Revolutioary War Hero Dionysius Oliver. Mary Kean is the daughter of John Kean and Lucy Cornell Kean. There were 4 children: William James Oliver born 1839 Catherine Oliver, born August 5, 1844, who married Richard Burgess, son of William Burgess of Pike County (AL?) Frances Nancy Oliver, born 1845 Malinda Hawkins Oliver, born 1850 Upon the death of Oliver, Mary Lou Oliver married Richard Wingard on July 14, 1853, son of William and Ellender Wingard of Pike County (AL?). She had 3 more children with Richard Wingard: Nora Wingard who married William Curry George Franklin Wingard, born July 27, 1860, who married Lena Curry on 3 January, 1883 and had 3 children. He then married Carry Lou Moore on July 15, 1981 (1881?) and had 10 children. He was still alive in 1946. James Wingard, died as a boy. Richard Wingard died on July 27, 1862 and is buried in the Wingard Cemetery in Wingard, AL. Mary Lou Miles Wingard came to be known as ?Grandma Wingard? . She had 7 children, 24 grandchildren from her Oliver children and 13 grandchildren from her Wingard children. There were great and great grandchildren also. She died on June 17, 1911? ?John J. Oliver was born about 1810 in Elbert County, GA and died after 1880 in Tallapoosa County, AL. He was the son of Rev. Florence McCarty Oliver and Susannah Clark. Rachael Lucy OLIVER b: 20 MAR 1822 in Elbert, Georgia married Thomas Cotton/Cotten. She was the daughter of Rev. Florence McCarty Oliver & Susannah Clark. They moved to AL. Rev. Florence McCarty/McCartie/McCarthy Oliver, born in VA, was recorded in the 1850 Chambers County AL census with several grown and small children. He and Susannah Clark had children in GA around 1811.They moved to AL. Mariah W. Oliver b. about 1796 Elbert County, GA d. after 1870 Bullock in Pine (?) County, AL m. Asa A. Brown 1 Nov 1821 in Elbert County, GA, daughter of William Oliver b. about 1776 VA and Barbara Tait Matilda Oliver b. 2 Sep 1790 Elbert County, GA d. between 1820-1823 in Elbert County, GA m. David B. Hudson 9 Sep 1817, daughter of William Oliver and Barbara Tait (2nd hus band Asa Mann m. Milly T. Oliver 6 Sep 1832?) Mary Ann Oliver b. between 1799-1800 Elbert County, GA d. after 1827 Elbert County, GA m. William Hudson 13 June 1824, daughter of William Oliver and Barbara Tait Malinda Oliver b. bedtween 1799-1806 Elbert County, GA m. Stephen A. Mann 8 Jul 1824 Elbert County, GA, daughter of William Oliver and Barbara Tait? ?SC Archives microfilm? ?In the name of God Amen I Dionysius Oliver of South Carolina Edgefield District being weak in body but of perfect ? and memory thanks be given to god and call onto mind the mortality of my body with knowledge that it is appointed for all men to die I do make and ordain this to be my last will and testament (Viz) Personally and first of all I Give and recommend my soul into the hands of God that give it, and my body I recommend it to the Earth to be buried in a decent Christian burial at the discretion of my Executors, no thing doubting but at the General Resurrection I shall receive the same again by the mighty Power of God, and as Touching such worldly Estates where with it hath pleased God to bless me with in this life, I Give desire and dispose of the same in the following manner and From (Viz) It is my will that all my just debts and Funeral Charges be first paid Item I Give and bequeath all my Estate both real and Personal of what kind soever to my son Lewelling Oliver. To him and his heirs forever. But should it so happen that my son Lewelling Oliver should die without Issue Then and in that case it is my will and I do give six hundred Dollars to my nephew Dionysius Oliver son of my brother Peter Oliver, also I give to my nephew Berrien Oliver son of Dionysius Oliver six hundred dollars. Also I give one third part of the remainder unto the heirs of Saml Pas??? Also give the remaining two thirds to my Brother John Oliver and sister Jane Ragsdale to be equally divided between them. Lastly I do constitute to this my last will and testament Thomas Coleman David Richards and Darcy Hedurn to be my Executors of this my last will and testament and I do hereby re.. and disdain all other wills Bequeaths and testaments by my hand for made & ? Do discredit all other Executors by me here to fore appointed. Dionysius Oliver Signed sealed published and discharged in the presents of Each other herein subscribed our names as witnesses to the same. Frances Burts Ezekiel M. Hoell William Forest Dionysius Oliver Will Proved by the Oath of William Forest this 2nd Day of October 1815 and same time qualified Thomas Coleman, David Richards and Drury Hern Dec? to this written Jn Tinkiny OED Recorded 20th May 1816 Book B Page 355-356 There are also many ESTATE PAPERS. An inventory was filed 24 Oct. 1815 by Thos Coleman, Drury Hern, David Richards -This included corn, rye, cotton, 7 cows, 50 hogs, 1 yoke of oxen, 36 sheep, 26 cattle, 7 horses of various colors -This also included several Negroes: man named Jack, woman named Fillis, Washington, girl name L???, girl named Emily, boy named Lewwey, woman named Judah, boy named Boston, girl named Rachel, boy named Prince, boy named Sam, girl named Caroline, woman named Lucy, girl named Zena, girl named Harriet, girl named Eliza, boy named Joe, woman named Crecy, woman named Seanty, woman named Mary -Total value $7353.50 Property sold belonging to the estate of Dionysius Oliver Decd December 30, 1815 -this sale included mostly small household items such as a looking glass, tallow candle molds, sheets, etc. for a total of $1751.99 -Three Negroes Jack, Phyllis & Whashington were purchased by William Parten -One Negro girl Lucrey was purchased by Leo Parten -One Negro girl Emily was purchased by William Coursey Money was paid out for sewing of clothes by Mrs. Burt [note other times she is called Widow Burt or Mrs. Jeaneen Burt] and Mrs. P. Goode and the purchase of two pairs of shoes for Lewelling. At another time a knife, a mare, shoeing of his horse, suspenders, buttons, a hat, a pair of boots, etc. Although Board is often paid for him, it never indicates to who. [Note some postings suggest he was raised by his late mother's sister named Talitha Goode. There is one mention of a Talitha Watskins paid $15.75 from the estate on June 5, 1820 and the one mention of Mrs. P? Goode sewing clothes, but that is all.] Lewelling's education is mentioned a few times in the accounts, i.e. Richard M. Todd for schooling, Lewis Holloway for tuition and books, etc. An accounting of a sale made by Thos Coleman on 31 Jan 1817 for $1517 Money was paid out in Dec. 1819, including $100 "Cash to Lewelling" and $1 to a Mid Wife Money paid out through Nov. 1821 including "Boarding Lewelling Oliver 1820" for $80 and "articles for use of the plantation" $187 signed by David Richardson Money received for cotton sold in Charleston and Augusta in 1820 and 1821 The last entry is this collection is 1822. My interpretation follows: This Dionysius Oliver clearly had just the one son Lewellling who I believe was born about 1805 assuming these census records pertain to him: 1850 United States Federal Census > Alabama > Sumter > Warsaw Lewellen Oliver 45 M 8000 SC Eliza 42 F SC Ann 18 F AL Dunelia 14 M AL [actually Dionysius] Luellen 10 M AL Robert 6 M AL Dabney 3 M AL 1860 United States Federal Census > Alabama > Sumter > Northern Division 82 82 Lewellyn Oliver 54 M Farmer 43,000 140,000 SC Francis H Oliver 40 F SC Robt Oliver 16 M AL Lewellyn Oliver 18 M AL He mentions a sister Jane Ragsdale, a brother John, a brother Peter who had a son Dionysius, and then there is mention of a nephew Berrien, son of Dionysius Oliver! The only way I can make that work is that he had another sister who married a cousin named Dionysius Oliver. I found a marriage record for such a marriage: Marriages of Granville County, North Carolina, 1753-1868 Oliver, Dyonisisu & Polley Oliver, 26 Jan 1790; Joseph Smith bm; A. Henderson wit. Whether this is them.......I don't know. If so then this is likely the son's marriage: Marriages of Granville County, North Carolina, 1753-1868 Oliver, Berrien & Mary B. Royster, 12 Nov 1821; Willis A. Royster, bm. Mary ------------------------------ To contact the OLIVER list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the OLIVER mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of OLIVER Digest, Vol 4, Issue 148 **************************************