There is an Oliver YDNA project that has descendants of Caleb. I believe that it has been mentioned here before. I am from the line of Peter (Thomas) and Ann Mary McCarty who are the ancestors of Dionysius and there are no Peter/Thomas descendants who are participants in the YDNA project. I do not match the line from Caleb. Please, anyone who is an Oliver and a descdendant of Peter/Thomas or Dionysius check out FamilyTreeDNA and the Oliver Project. Sandy --- On Thu, 9/10/09, Robert Johnston <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Robert Johnston <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OLIVER] Dionysius Oliver > To: [email protected] > Date: Thursday, September 10, 2009, 7:59 AM > In reference to the message below > about Dionysius Oliver of Elbert County, > please be very careful with names and relationships. You > have mixed together > two different unrelated Oliver families. There were two > completely unrelated > lines that lived in Elbert County, GA from 1795-1830. The > large Dionysius > Oliver family of Petersburg and the smaller Caleb Oliver > family of Vann's > Creek and Ruckersville, originally from Orange Co., VA. > > In the list of siblings of Dionysius Oliver below (Some are > actually his > children), you have a Seaborn and Seborn Oliver of > Tallapoosa Co, and a > Nancy T. Oliver. Those belong to the Caleb Oliver Family. > > Further down you have a "John J Oliver" and "Rachel Lucy > Oliver", wife of > Thomas Cotton, were not  children of Rev. Florence M. > Oliver. These are > children of Caleb Oliver and not related to the Dionysius > line. > > The "Milly T. Oliver" who married Asa Mann was also from > the Caleb Oliver > family, not the Dionysius line. > > I hope this helps a little. > > Robert C. Johnston, Jr. > Wetumpka, AL > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > On > Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 2:01 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: OLIVER Digest, Vol 4, Issue 148 > > > > OLIVER Most Wanted http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/oliver.html > > Today's Topics: > >    1. Re: Dionysius Oliver ([email protected]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 12:57:53 EDT > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [OLIVER] Dionysius Oliver > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi, I am trying to prove that I am related to Dioysius > Oliver's sister Ann > or Mary Ann. Check Edgefield SC genweb. I have found a lot > of info there. He > > founded Petersburg, GA in Elbert County, GA by selling the > Bounty land from > the state of GA that he recieved after the Revolutionary > War. Information > is very confusing as there several different Dioysious > Olivers, Peter Oliver > > and Berrien Oliver. I think his wife was Polly. She could > have been his son > or nephew's wife. His father was Thomas Oliver of > Petersburg, VA. His > brothers and sisters were: > Eleanor Oliver > Mary Ann Oliver Thompson Hancock? > John Oliver > Peter Oliver > Martha Oliver > Jane Oliver Ragsdale > McCarty Oliver > James Oliver > Francis Oliver > William Oliver > His children were Martha Oliver Hancock > Seaborn Oliver ?Davidson Baptist Church Cemetery, > Tallapoosa County, AL_ > Seborn Oliver   b. 1848 d. 1900 (This is > probably his son/grandson as he > died > about 1827.) > Nancy T. Oliver b. 1854 d. 1948? > Beryan/Berrien Oliver > Dionysius Oliver > Peter Oliver? > William Oliver whose family ended up in Tallassee, AL. > ?www.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/al/alfiles.htm? Dorothy > Burandt    > [email protected] > ?Chief efau Hadjo, Mad Dog,of the Wind Tribe became Chief > of the Creek > Indian Nation in 1793 when he succeded Alexander > McGillivray. The Creek > Nation > at that time consisted of the Wind Tribe who were the most > elite, the Upper > Creeks and the Lower Creeks. He lived in Tuckabatchee which > is near present > day Tallassee. He signed Treatys as early as 1765 and as > late as 1802. In > 1929, the Alabama Antropological Society placed a monument > marking the Creek > > Indian Nation at the great Council Tree in Tuckabatchee > where the Wind Tribe > > resided.The monument mentions Chief Efau hadjo. The > monument has been moved > to present day Tallassee. There is nothing now to mark > Tuchabatchee. > Big Woman was the daughter of Chief Mad Dog. She was > married first to Tom > Low and had a daughter, Anny Low. She then married > Alexander Cornell and had > > 3 children, Suckey, Charles, Hawkins. Big Woman was a full > blooded Creek    > and I believe Alexander Cornell to be white. Alexander > Cornell was the > interpreter to Benjamin Hawkins, the Indian Agent as early > as 1784. > Anny Low first married George Goodwin, then Polly Miles. > One daughter was > born, Mary Lou Miles, on July 24, 1824 at Pidgeon Creek, > AL. > Mary Lou Miles maried James Cornell Oliver in 1837, son of > William Oliver > and Mary Kean. William Oliver is the 6th son of > Revolutioary War Hero > Dionysius Oliver. Mary Kean is the daughter of John Kean > and Lucy Cornell > Kean. > There were 4 children: > William James Oliver   born 1839 > Catherine Oliver, born August 5, 1844, who married Richard > Burgess, son of > William Burgess of Pike County (AL?) > Frances Nancy Oliver, born 1845 > Malinda Hawkins Oliver, born 1850 > Upon the death of Oliver, Mary Lou Oliver married Richard > Wingard on July > 14, 1853, son > of   William   and Ellender > Wingard of Pike County (AL?). She > had   3 more children with Richard Wingard: > Nora Wingard who married William Curry > George Franklin Wingard, born July 27, 1860, who married > Lena Curry on 3 > January, 1883 and had 3 children. He then married Carry Lou > Moore on July > 15, > 1981 (1881?) and had 10 children. He was still alive in > 1946. > James Wingard, died as a boy. > Richard Wingard died on July 27, 1862 and is buried in the > Wingard Cemetery > in Wingard, AL. Mary Lou Miles Wingard came to be known as > ?Grandma Wingard? > . She had 7 children, 24 grandchildren from her Oliver > children and 13 > grandchildren from her Wingard children. There were great > and great > grandchildren also. She died on June 17, 1911? > > ?John J. Oliver was born about 1810 in Elbert County, GA > and died after > 1880 in Tallapoosa County, AL. He was the son of Rev. > Florence McCarty > Oliver > and Susannah Clark. Rachael Lucy OLIVER b: 20 MAR 1822 in > Elbert, Georgia > married Thomas Cotton/Cotten. She was the daughter of Rev. > Florence McCarty > Oliver & Susannah Clark. They moved to AL. Rev. > Florence > McCarty/McCartie/McCarthy Oliver, born in VA, was recorded > in the 1850 > Chambers County AL census > with several grown and small children. He and Susannah > Clark had children in > > GA around 1811.They moved to AL. > Mariah W. Oliver b. about 1796 Elbert County, GA d. after > 1870 Bullock in > Pine (?) County, AL m. Asa A. Brown 1 Nov 1821 in Elbert > County, GA,    > daughter of William Oliver b. about 1776 VA and Barbara > Tait > Matilda Oliver b. 2 Sep 1790 Elbert County, GA d. between > 1820-1823 in > Elbert County, GA m. David B. Hudson   9 Sep > 1817,   daughter of William > Oliver > and Barbara Tait (2nd hus band Asa Mann m. Milly T. Oliver > 6 Sep 1832?) > Mary Ann Oliver b. between 1799-1800 Elbert County, GA d. > after 1827 Elbert > County, GA m. William Hudson   13 June 1824, > daughter of William Oliver and > Barbara Tait > Malinda Oliver b. bedtween 1799-1806 Elbert County, GA m. > Stephen A. Mann    > 8 Jul   1824 Elbert County, GA, daughter > of   William Oliver and Barbara > Tait? > > ?SC Archives microfilm? > ?In the name of God Amen I Dionysius > Oliver   of South Carolina Edgefield > District being weak in body but of perfect ? and memory > thanks be given to > god and call onto mind the mortality of my body with > knowledge that it is > appointed for all men to die I do make and ordain this to > be my last will > and > testament (Viz) > Personally and first of all I Give and recommend my soul > into the hands of > God that give it, and my body I recommend it to the Earth > to be buried in a > decent Christian burial at the discretion of my Executors, > no thing doubting > > but at the General Resurrection I shall receive the same > again by the > mighty Power of God, and as Touching such worldly Estates > where with it hath > > pleased God to bless me with in this life, I Give desire > and dispose of the > same > in the following manner and From (Viz) > It is my will that all my just debts and Funeral Charges be > first paid > Item I Give and bequeath all my Estate both real and > Personal of what kind > soever to my son Lewelling Oliver.   To him > and his heirs forever.   But > should it so happen that my son Lewelling Oliver should die > without Issue > Then > and in that case it is my will and I do give six hundred > Dollars to my > nephew Dionysius Oliver son of my brother Peter Oliver, > also I give to my > nephew > Berrien Oliver son of Dionysius Oliver six hundred > dollars.   Also I give > one third part of the remainder unto the heirs of Saml > Pas???   Also give > the > remaining two thirds to my Brother John Oliver and sister > Jane Ragsdale to > be equally divided between them. > Lastly I do constitute to this my last will and testament > Thomas Coleman > David Richards and Darcy Hedurn to be my Executors of this > my last will and > testament and I do hereby re.. and disdain all other wills > Bequeaths and > testaments by my hand for made & ? Do discredit all > other Executors by me > here to > fore appointed. > Dionysius Oliver > Signed sealed published > and discharged in the presents > of Each other herein subscribed > our names as witnesses to the same. > Frances Burts > Ezekiel M. Hoell > William Forest > > Dionysius Oliver Will > Proved by the Oath of William Forest   this > 2nd Day of October 1815 and > same time qualified Thomas Coleman, David Richards and > Drury Hern Dec? to > this > written > Jn Tinkiny OED > Recorded 20th May 1816   Book > B   Page 355-356 > > > There are also many ESTATE PAPERS. > An inventory was filed 24 Oct. 1815 by Thos Coleman, Drury > Hern, David > Richards > -This included corn, rye, cotton, 7 cows, 50 hogs, 1 yoke > of oxen, 36 > sheep, 26 cattle, 7 horses of various colors > -This also included several Negroes:   man > named Jack, woman named Fillis, > Washington, girl name L???, girl named Emily, boy named > Lewwey, woman named > Judah, boy named Boston, girl named Rachel, boy named > Prince,   boy named > Sam, girl named Caroline, woman named Lucy, girl named > Zena, girl named > Harriet, girl named Eliza, boy named Joe, woman named > Crecy, woman named > Seanty, > woman named Mary > -Total value $7353.50 > Property sold belonging to the estate of Dionysius Oliver > Decd December 30, > 1815 > -this sale included mostly small household items such as a > looking glass, > tallow candle molds, sheets, etc. for a total of $1751.99 > -Three Negroes Jack, Phyllis & Whashington were > purchased by William Parten > -One Negro girl Lucrey was purchased by Leo Parten > -One Negro girl Emily was purchased by William Coursey > Money was paid out for sewing of clothes by Mrs. Burt [note > other times she > is called Widow Burt or Mrs. Jeaneen Burt] and Mrs. P. > Goode and the > purchase of two pairs of shoes for > Lewelling.   At another time a knife, a > mare, > shoeing of his horse,   suspenders, buttons, > a hat, a pair of boots, etc.    > Although Board is often paid for him, it never indicates to > who.   [Note > some > postings suggest he was raised by his late mother's sister > named Talitha > Goode.   There is one mention of a Talitha > Watskins paid $15.75 from the > estate on June 5, 1820 and the one mention of Mrs. P? Goode > sewing clothes, > but > that is all.] > Lewelling's education is mentioned a few times in the > accounts, i.e. > Richard M. Todd for schooling, Lewis Holloway for tuition > and books, etc. > An accounting of a sale made by Thos Coleman on 31 Jan 1817 > for $1517 > Money was paid out in Dec. 1819, including $100 "Cash to > Lewelling" and $1 > to a Mid Wife > Money paid out through Nov. 1821 including "Boarding > Lewelling Oliver 1820" > for $80 and "articles for use of the plantation" $187 > signed by David > Richardson > Money received for cotton sold in Charleston and Augusta in > 1820 and 1821 > The last entry is this collection is 1822. > > My interpretation follows: > This Dionysius Oliver clearly had just the one son > Lewellling who I believe > was born > about 1805 assuming these census records pertain to him: > > 1850 United States Federal Census > Alabama > Sumter > > Warsaw > Lewellen Oliver 45 M 8000 SC >      Eliza 42 F SC >      Ann 18 F AL >      Dunelia 14 M AL [actually > Dionysius] >      Luellen 10 M AL >      Robert 6 M AL >      Dabney 3 M AL > > 1860 United States Federal Census > Alabama > Sumter > > Northern > Division > 82 82 Lewellyn Oliver 54 M Farmer 43,000 > 140,000   SC >      Francis H Oliver 40 F SC >      Robt Oliver 16 M AL >      Lewellyn Oliver 18 M AL > > > He mentions a sister Jane Ragsdale, a brother John, a > brother Peter who had > a son Dionysius, and then there is mention of a nephew > Berrien, son of > Dionysius Oliver!   The only way I can make > that work is that he had another > > sister who married a cousin named Dionysius > Oliver.   I found a marriage > record > for such a marriage: > > Marriages of Granville County, North Carolina, 1753-1868 > Oliver, Dyonisisu & Polley Oliver, 26 Jan 1790; Joseph > Smith bm; A. > Henderson wit. > Whether this is them.......I don't know. > > If so then this is likely the son's marriage: > Marriages of Granville County, North Carolina, 1753-1868 > Oliver, Berrien & Mary B. Royster, 12 Nov 1821; Willis > A. Royster, bm. > Mary > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the OLIVER list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the OLIVER mailing list, send an email > to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the > subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of OLIVER Digest, Vol 4, Issue 148 > ************************************** > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > OLIVER Most Wanted http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/oliver.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

How do I check the DNA project? ----- Original Message ----- From: "OLIVER SANDY" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 6:54 AM Subject: Re: [OLIVER] Dionysius Oliver There is an Oliver YDNA project that has descendants of Caleb. I believe that it has been mentioned here before. I am from the line of Peter (Thomas) and Ann Mary McCarty who are the ancestors of Dionysius and there are no Peter/Thomas descendants who are participants in the YDNA project. I do not match the line from Caleb. Please, anyone who is an Oliver and a descdendant of Peter/Thomas or Dionysius check out FamilyTreeDNA and the Oliver Project. Sandy --- On Thu, 9/10/09, Robert Johnston <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Robert Johnston <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OLIVER] Dionysius Oliver > To: [email protected] > Date: Thursday, September 10, 2009, 7:59 AM > In reference to the message below > about Dionysius Oliver of Elbert County, > please be very careful with names and relationships. You > have mixed together > two different unrelated Oliver families. There were two > completely unrelated > lines that lived in Elbert County, GA from 1795-1830. The > large Dionysius > Oliver family of Petersburg and the smaller Caleb Oliver > family of Vann's > Creek and Ruckersville, originally from Orange Co., VA. > > In the list of siblings of Dionysius Oliver below (Some are > actually his > children), you have a Seaborn and Seborn Oliver of > Tallapoosa Co, and a > Nancy T. Oliver. Those belong to the Caleb Oliver Family. > > Further down you have a "John J Oliver" and "Rachel Lucy > Oliver", wife of > Thomas Cotton, were not children of Rev. Florence M. > Oliver. These are > children of Caleb Oliver and not related to the Dionysius > line. > > The "Milly T. Oliver" who married Asa Mann was also from > the Caleb Oliver > family, not the Dionysius line. > > I hope this helps a little. > > Robert C. Johnston, Jr. > Wetumpka, AL > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > On > Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 2:01 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: OLIVER Digest, Vol 4, Issue 148 > > > > OLIVER Most Wanted http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/oliver.html > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Dionysius Oliver ([email protected]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 12:57:53 EDT > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [OLIVER] Dionysius Oliver > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi, I am trying to prove that I am related to Dioysius > Oliver's sister Ann > or Mary Ann. Check Edgefield SC genweb. I have found a lot > of info there. He > > founded Petersburg, GA in Elbert County, GA by selling the > Bounty land from > the state of GA that he recieved after the Revolutionary > War. Information > is very confusing as there several different Dioysious > Olivers, Peter Oliver > > and Berrien Oliver. I think his wife was Polly. She could > have been his son > or nephew's wife. His father was Thomas Oliver of > Petersburg, VA. His > brothers and sisters were: > Eleanor Oliver > Mary Ann Oliver Thompson Hancock? > John Oliver > Peter Oliver > Martha Oliver > Jane Oliver Ragsdale > McCarty Oliver > James Oliver > Francis Oliver > William Oliver > His children were Martha Oliver Hancock > Seaborn Oliver ?Davidson Baptist Church Cemetery, > Tallapoosa County, AL_ > Seborn Oliver b. 1848 d. 1900 (This is > probably his son/grandson as he > died > about 1827.) > Nancy T. Oliver b. 1854 d. 1948? > Beryan/Berrien Oliver > Dionysius Oliver > Peter Oliver? > William Oliver whose family ended up in Tallassee, AL. > ?www.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/al/alfiles.htm? Dorothy > Burandt > [email protected] > ?Chief efau Hadjo, Mad Dog,of the Wind Tribe became Chief > of the Creek > Indian Nation in 1793 when he succeded Alexander > McGillivray. The Creek > Nation > at that time consisted of the Wind Tribe who were the most > elite, the Upper > Creeks and the Lower Creeks. He lived in Tuckabatchee which > is near present > day Tallassee. He signed Treatys as early as 1765 and as > late as 1802. In > 1929, the Alabama Antropological Society placed a monument > marking the Creek > > Indian Nation at the great Council Tree in Tuckabatchee > where the Wind Tribe > > resided.The monument mentions Chief Efau hadjo. The > monument has been moved > to present day Tallassee. There is nothing now to mark > Tuchabatchee. > Big Woman was the daughter of Chief Mad Dog. She was > married first to Tom > Low and had a daughter, Anny Low. She then married > Alexander Cornell and had > > 3 children, Suckey, Charles, Hawkins. Big Woman was a full > blooded Creek > and I believe Alexander Cornell to be white. Alexander > Cornell was the > interpreter to Benjamin Hawkins, the Indian Agent as early > as 1784. > Anny Low first married George Goodwin, then Polly Miles. > One daughter was > born, Mary Lou Miles, on July 24, 1824 at Pidgeon Creek, > AL. > Mary Lou Miles maried James Cornell Oliver in 1837, son of > William Oliver > and Mary Kean. William Oliver is the 6th son of > Revolutioary War Hero > Dionysius Oliver. Mary Kean is the daughter of John Kean > and Lucy Cornell > Kean. > There were 4 children: > William James Oliver born 1839 > Catherine Oliver, born August 5, 1844, who married Richard > Burgess, son of > William Burgess of Pike County (AL?) > Frances Nancy Oliver, born 1845 > Malinda Hawkins Oliver, born 1850 > Upon the death of Oliver, Mary Lou Oliver married Richard > Wingard on July > 14, 1853, son > of William and Ellender > Wingard of Pike County (AL?). She > had 3 more children with Richard Wingard: > Nora Wingard who married William Curry > George Franklin Wingard, born July 27, 1860, who married > Lena Curry on 3 > January, 1883 and had 3 children. He then married Carry Lou > Moore on July > 15, > 1981 (1881?) and had 10 children. He was still alive in > 1946. > James Wingard, died as a boy. > Richard Wingard died on July 27, 1862 and is buried in the > Wingard Cemetery > in Wingard, AL. Mary Lou Miles Wingard came to be known as > ?Grandma Wingard? > . She had 7 children, 24 grandchildren from her Oliver > children and 13 > grandchildren from her Wingard children. There were great > and great > grandchildren also. She died on June 17, 1911? > > ?John J. Oliver was born about 1810 in Elbert County, GA > and died after > 1880 in Tallapoosa County, AL. He was the son of Rev. > Florence McCarty > Oliver > and Susannah Clark. Rachael Lucy OLIVER b: 20 MAR 1822 in > Elbert, Georgia > married Thomas Cotton/Cotten. She was the daughter of Rev. > Florence McCarty > Oliver & Susannah Clark. They moved to AL. Rev. > Florence > McCarty/McCartie/McCarthy Oliver, born in VA, was recorded > in the 1850 > Chambers County AL census > with several grown and small children. He and Susannah > Clark had children in > > GA around 1811.They moved to AL. > Mariah W. Oliver b. about 1796 Elbert County, GA d. after > 1870 Bullock in > Pine (?) County, AL m. Asa A. Brown 1 Nov 1821 in Elbert > County, GA, > daughter of William Oliver b. about 1776 VA and Barbara > Tait > Matilda Oliver b. 2 Sep 1790 Elbert County, GA d. between > 1820-1823 in > Elbert County, GA m. David B. Hudson 9 Sep > 1817, daughter of William > Oliver > and Barbara Tait (2nd hus band Asa Mann m. Milly T. Oliver > 6 Sep 1832?) > Mary Ann Oliver b. between 1799-1800 Elbert County, GA d. > after 1827 Elbert > County, GA m. William Hudson 13 June 1824, > daughter of William Oliver and > Barbara Tait > Malinda Oliver b. bedtween 1799-1806 Elbert County, GA m. > Stephen A. Mann > 8 Jul 1824 Elbert County, GA, daughter > of William Oliver and Barbara > Tait? > > ?SC Archives microfilm? > ?In the name of God Amen I Dionysius > Oliver of South Carolina Edgefield > District being weak in body but of perfect ? and memory > thanks be given to > god and call onto mind the mortality of my body with > knowledge that it is > appointed for all men to die I do make and ordain this to > be my last will > and > testament (Viz) > Personally and first of all I Give and recommend my soul > into the hands of > God that give it, and my body I recommend it to the Earth > to be buried in a > decent Christian burial at the discretion of my Executors, > no thing doubting > > but at the General Resurrection I shall receive the same > again by the > mighty Power of God, and as Touching such worldly Estates > where with it hath > > pleased God to bless me with in this life, I Give desire > and dispose of the > same > in the following manner and From (Viz) > It is my will that all my just debts and Funeral Charges be > first paid > Item I Give and bequeath all my Estate both real and > Personal of what kind > soever to my son Lewelling Oliver. To him > and his heirs forever. But > should it so happen that my son Lewelling Oliver should die > without Issue > Then > and in that case it is my will and I do give six hundred > Dollars to my > nephew Dionysius Oliver son of my brother Peter Oliver, > also I give to my > nephew > Berrien Oliver son of Dionysius Oliver six hundred > dollars. Also I give > one third part of the remainder unto the heirs of Saml > Pas??? Also give > the > remaining two thirds to my Brother John Oliver and sister > Jane Ragsdale to > be equally divided between them. > Lastly I do constitute to this my last will and testament > Thomas Coleman > David Richards and Darcy Hedurn to be my Executors of this > my last will and > testament and I do hereby re.. and disdain all other wills > Bequeaths and > testaments by my hand for made & ? Do discredit all > other Executors by me > here to > fore appointed. > Dionysius Oliver > Signed sealed published > and discharged in the presents > of Each other herein subscribed > our names as witnesses to the same. > Frances Burts > Ezekiel M. Hoell > William Forest > > Dionysius Oliver Will > Proved by the Oath of William Forest this > 2nd Day of October 1815 and > same time qualified Thomas Coleman, David Richards and > Drury Hern Dec? to > this > written > Jn Tinkiny OED > Recorded 20th May 1816 Book > B Page 355-356 > > > There are also many ESTATE PAPERS. > An inventory was filed 24 Oct. 1815 by Thos Coleman, Drury > Hern, David > Richards > -This included corn, rye, cotton, 7 cows, 50 hogs, 1 yoke > of oxen, 36 > sheep, 26 cattle, 7 horses of various colors > -This also included several Negroes: man > named Jack, woman named Fillis, > Washington, girl name L???, girl named Emily, boy named > Lewwey, woman named > Judah, boy named Boston, girl named Rachel, boy named > Prince, boy named > Sam, girl named Caroline, woman named Lucy, girl named > Zena, girl named > Harriet, girl named Eliza, boy named Joe, woman named > Crecy, woman named > Seanty, > woman named Mary > -Total value $7353.50 > Property sold belonging to the estate of Dionysius Oliver > Decd December 30, > 1815 > -this sale included mostly small household items such as a > looking glass, > tallow candle molds, sheets, etc. for a total of $1751.99 > -Three Negroes Jack, Phyllis & Whashington were > purchased by William Parten > -One Negro girl Lucrey was purchased by Leo Parten > -One Negro girl Emily was purchased by William Coursey > Money was paid out for sewing of clothes by Mrs. Burt [note > other times she > is called Widow Burt or Mrs. Jeaneen Burt] and Mrs. P. > Goode and the > purchase of two pairs of shoes for > Lewelling. At another time a knife, a > mare, > shoeing of his horse, suspenders, buttons, > a hat, a pair of boots, etc. > Although Board is often paid for him, it never indicates to > who. [Note > some > postings suggest he was raised by his late mother's sister > named Talitha > Goode. There is one mention of a Talitha > Watskins paid $15.75 from the > estate on June 5, 1820 and the one mention of Mrs. P? Goode > sewing clothes, > but > that is all.] > Lewelling's education is mentioned a few times in the > accounts, i.e. > Richard M. Todd for schooling, Lewis Holloway for tuition > and books, etc. > An accounting of a sale made by Thos Coleman on 31 Jan 1817 > for $1517 > Money was paid out in Dec. 1819, including $100 "Cash to > Lewelling" and $1 > to a Mid Wife > Money paid out through Nov. 1821 including "Boarding > Lewelling Oliver 1820" > for $80 and "articles for use of the plantation" $187 > signed by David > Richardson > Money received for cotton sold in Charleston and Augusta in > 1820 and 1821 > The last entry is this collection is 1822. > > My interpretation follows: > This Dionysius Oliver clearly had just the one son > Lewellling who I believe > was born > about 1805 assuming these census records pertain to him: > > 1850 United States Federal Census > Alabama > Sumter > > Warsaw > Lewellen Oliver 45 M 8000 SC > Eliza 42 F SC > Ann 18 F AL > Dunelia 14 M AL [actually > Dionysius] > Luellen 10 M AL > Robert 6 M AL > Dabney 3 M AL > > 1860 United States Federal Census > Alabama > Sumter > > Northern > Division > 82 82 Lewellyn Oliver 54 M Farmer 43,000 > 140,000 SC > Francis H Oliver 40 F SC > Robt Oliver 16 M AL > Lewellyn Oliver 18 M AL > > > He mentions a sister Jane Ragsdale, a brother John, a > brother Peter who had > a son Dionysius, and then there is mention of a nephew > Berrien, son of > Dionysius Oliver! The only way I can make > that work is that he had another > > sister who married a cousin named Dionysius > Oliver. I found a marriage > record > for such a marriage: > > Marriages of Granville County, North Carolina, 1753-1868 > Oliver, Dyonisisu & Polley Oliver, 26 Jan 1790; Joseph > Smith bm; A. > Henderson wit. > Whether this is them.......I don't know. > > If so then this is likely the son's marriage: > Marriages of Granville County, North Carolina, 1753-1868 > Oliver, Berrien & Mary B. Royster, 12 Nov 1821; Willis > A. Royster, bm. > Mary > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the OLIVER list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the OLIVER mailing list, send an email > to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the > subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of OLIVER Digest, Vol 4, Issue 148 > ************************************** > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > OLIVER Most Wanted http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/oliver.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------- OLIVER Most Wanted http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/oliver.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, The data on the full project, coordinated by Mr. Pat Oliver is at: http://fly.hiwaay.net/~woliver/Oliver_YDNA.html The line from Caleb Oliver and the others who match that line are also shown at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gaoliver/OliverLines.html Cordially, Sheila >How do I check the DNA project? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "OLIVER SANDY" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 6:54 AM >Subject: Re: [OLIVER] Dionysius Oliver > > >There is an Oliver YDNA project that has descendants of Caleb. I believe >that it has been mentioned here before. I am from the line of Peter >(Thomas) and Ann Mary McCarty who are the ancestors of Dionysius and there >are no Peter/Thomas descendants who are participants in the YDNA project. I >do not match the line from Caleb. Please, anyone who is an Oliver and a >descdendant of Peter/Thomas or Dionysius check out FamilyTreeDNA and the >Oliver Project. > >Sandy > >--- On Thu, 9/10/09, Robert Johnston <[email protected]> wrote: > >> From: Robert Johnston <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [OLIVER] Dionysius Oliver >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Thursday, September 10, 2009, 7:59 AM >> In reference to the message below >> about Dionysius Oliver of Elbert County, >> please be very careful with names and relationships. You >> have mixed together >> two different unrelated Oliver families. There were two >> completely unrelated >> lines that lived in Elbert County, GA from 1795-1830. The >> large Dionysius >> Oliver family of Petersburg and the smaller Caleb Oliver >> family of Vann's >> Creek and Ruckersville, originally from Orange Co., VA. >> >> In the list of siblings of Dionysius Oliver below (Some are >> actually his >> children), you have a Seaborn and Seborn Oliver of >> Tallapoosa Co, and a >> Nancy T. Oliver. Those belong to the Caleb Oliver Family. >> >> Further down you have a "John J Oliver" and "Rachel Lucy >> Oliver", wife of >> Thomas Cotton, were not children of Rev. Florence M. >> Oliver. These are >> children of Caleb Oliver and not related to the Dionysius >> line. >> >> The "Milly T. Oliver" who married Asa Mann was also from >> the Caleb Oliver >> family, not the Dionysius line. >> >> I hope this helps a little. >> >> Robert C. Johnston, Jr. >> Wetumpka, AL >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] >> On >> Behalf Of [email protected] >> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 2:01 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: OLIVER Digest, Vol 4, Issue 148 >> >> >> >> OLIVER Most Wanted http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/oliver.html >> >> Today's Topics: > > >> 1. Re: Dionysius Oliver ([email protected]) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 12:57:53 EDT >> From: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [OLIVER] Dionysius Oliver >> To: [email protected] >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> Hi, I am trying to prove that I am related to Dioysius >> Oliver's sister Ann >> or Mary Ann. Check Edgefield SC genweb. I have found a lot >> of info there. He >> >> founded Petersburg, GA in Elbert County, GA by selling the >> Bounty land from >> the state of GA that he recieved after the Revolutionary >> War. Information >> is very confusing as there several different Dioysious >> Olivers, Peter Oliver >> >> and Berrien Oliver. I think his wife was Polly. She could >> have been his son >> or nephew's wife. His father was Thomas Oliver of >> Petersburg, VA. His >> brothers and sisters were: >> Eleanor Oliver >> Mary Ann Oliver Thompson Hancock? >> John Oliver >> Peter Oliver >> Martha Oliver >> Jane Oliver Ragsdale >> McCarty Oliver >> James Oliver >> Francis Oliver >> William Oliver >> His children were Martha Oliver Hancock >> Seaborn Oliver ?Davidson Baptist Church Cemetery, >> Tallapoosa County, AL_ >> Seborn Oliver b. 1848 d. 1900 (This is > > probably his son/grandson as he >> died >> about 1827.) >> Nancy T. Oliver b. 1854 d. 1948? >> Beryan/Berrien Oliver >> Dionysius Oliver >> Peter Oliver? >> William Oliver whose family ended up in Tallassee, AL. >> ?www.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/al/alfiles.htm? Dorothy >> Burandt >> [email protected] >> ?Chief efau Hadjo, Mad Dog,of the Wind Tribe became Chief >> of the Creek >> Indian Nation in 1793 when he succeded Alexander >> McGillivray. The Creek >> Nation >> at that time consisted of the Wind Tribe who were the most >> elite, the Upper >> Creeks and the Lower Creeks. He lived in Tuckabatchee which >> is near present >> day Tallassee. He signed Treatys as early as 1765 and as >> late as 1802. In >> 1929, the Alabama Antropological Society placed a monument >> marking the Creek >> >> Indian Nation at the great Council Tree in Tuckabatchee >> where the Wind Tribe >> >> resided.The monument mentions Chief Efau hadjo. The >> monument has been moved >> to present day Tallassee. There is nothing now to mark >> Tuchabatchee. >> Big Woman was the daughter of Chief Mad Dog. She was >> married first to Tom >> Low and had a daughter, Anny Low. She then married >> Alexander Cornell and had >> >> 3 children, Suckey, Charles, Hawkins. Big Woman was a full >> blooded Creek >> and I believe Alexander Cornell to be white. Alexander >> Cornell was the >> interpreter to Benjamin Hawkins, the Indian Agent as early >> as 1784. >> Anny Low first married George Goodwin, then Polly Miles. >> One daughter was >> born, Mary Lou Miles, on July 24, 1824 at Pidgeon Creek, >> AL. >> Mary Lou Miles maried James Cornell Oliver in 1837, son of >> William Oliver >> and Mary Kean. William Oliver is the 6th son of >> Revolutioary War Hero >> Dionysius Oliver. Mary Kean is the daughter of John Kean >> and Lucy Cornell >> Kean. >> There were 4 children: >> William James Oliver born 1839 >> Catherine Oliver, born August 5, 1844, who married Richard >> Burgess, son of >> William Burgess of Pike County (AL?) >> Frances Nancy Oliver, born 1845 >> Malinda Hawkins Oliver, born 1850 >> Upon the death of Oliver, Mary Lou Oliver married Richard >> Wingard on July >> 14, 1853, son >> of William and Ellender >> Wingard of Pike County (AL?). She >> had 3 more children with Richard Wingard: >> Nora Wingard who married William Curry >> George Franklin Wingard, born July 27, 1860, who married >> Lena Curry on 3 >> January, 1883 and had 3 children. He then married Carry Lou >> Moore on July >> 15, >> 1981 (1881?) and had 10 children. He was still alive in >> 1946. >> James Wingard, died as a boy. >> Richard Wingard died on July 27, 1862 and is buried in the >> Wingard Cemetery >> in Wingard, AL. Mary Lou Miles Wingard came to be known as >> ?Grandma Wingard? >> . She had 7 children, 24 grandchildren from her Oliver >> children and 13 >> grandchildren from her Wingard children. There were great > > and great >> grandchildren also. She died on June 17, 1911? >> >> ?John J. Oliver was born about 1810 in Elbert County, GA >> and died after >> 1880 in Tallapoosa County, AL. He was the son of Rev. >> Florence McCarty >> Oliver >> and Susannah Clark. Rachael Lucy OLIVER b: 20 MAR 1822 in >> Elbert, Georgia >> married Thomas Cotton/Cotten. She was the daughter of Rev. >> Florence McCarty >> Oliver & Susannah Clark. They moved to AL. Rev. >> Florence >> McCarty/McCartie/McCarthy Oliver, born in VA, was recorded >> in the 1850 >> Chambers County AL census >> with several grown and small children. He and Susannah >> Clark had children in >> >> GA around 1811.They moved to AL. >> Mariah W. Oliver b. about 1796 Elbert County, GA d. after >> 1870 Bullock in >> Pine (?) County, AL m. Asa A. Brown 1 Nov 1821 in Elbert >> County, GA, >> daughter of William Oliver b. about 1776 VA and Barbara >> Tait >> Matilda Oliver b. 2 Sep 1790 Elbert County, GA d. between >> 1820-1823 in >> Elbert County, GA m. David B. Hudson 9 Sep >> 1817, daughter of William >> Oliver >> and Barbara Tait (2nd hus band Asa Mann m. Milly T. Oliver >> 6 Sep 1832?) >> Mary Ann Oliver b. between 1799-1800 Elbert County, GA d. >> after 1827 Elbert >> County, GA m. William Hudson 13 June 1824, >> daughter of William Oliver and >> Barbara Tait > > Malinda Oliver b. bedtween 1799-1806 Elbert County, GA m. >> Stephen A. Mann >> 8 Jul 1824 Elbert County, GA, daughter >> of William Oliver and Barbara >> Tait? >> >> ?SC Archives microfilm? >> ?In the name of God Amen I Dionysius >> Oliver of South Carolina Edgefield >> District being weak in body but of perfect ? and memory >> thanks be given to >> god and call onto mind the mortality of my body with >> knowledge that it is >> appointed for all men to die I do make and ordain this to >> be my last will >> and >> testament (Viz) >> Personally and first of all I Give and recommend my soul >> into the hands of >> God that give it, and my body I recommend it to the Earth >> to be buried in a >> decent Christian burial at the discretion of my Executors, >> no thing doubting >> >> but at the General Resurrection I shall receive the same >> again by the >> mighty Power of God, and as Touching such worldly Estates >> where with it hath >> >> pleased God to bless me with in this life, I Give desire >> and dispose of the >> same >> in the following manner and From (Viz) >> It is my will that all my just debts and Funeral Charges be >> first paid >> Item I Give and bequeath all my Estate both real and >> Personal of what kind >> soever to my son Lewelling Oliver. To him >> and his heirs forever. But >> should it so happen that my son Lewelling Oliver should die >> without Issue >> Then >> and in that case it is my will and I do give six hundred >> Dollars to my >> nephew Dionysius Oliver son of my brother Peter Oliver, >> also I give to my >> nephew >> Berrien Oliver son of Dionysius Oliver six hundred >> dollars. Also I give >> one third part of the remainder unto the heirs of Saml >> Pas??? Also give >> the >> remaining two thirds to my Brother John Oliver and sister >> Jane Ragsdale to >> be equally divided between them. >> Lastly I do constitute to this my last will and testament >> Thomas Coleman >> David Richards and Darcy Hedurn to be my Executors of this >> my last will and >> testament and I do hereby re.. and disdain all other wills >> Bequeaths and >> testaments by my hand for made & ? Do discredit all >> other Executors by me >> here to >> fore appointed. >> Dionysius Oliver >> Signed sealed published >> and discharged in the presents >> of Each other herein subscribed >> our names as witnesses to the same. >> Frances Burts >> Ezekiel M. Hoell >> William Forest >> >> Dionysius Oliver Will >> Proved by the Oath of William Forest this >> 2nd Day of October 1815 and >> same time qualified Thomas Coleman, David Richards and >> Drury Hern Dec? to >> this >> written >> Jn Tinkiny OED >> Recorded 20th May 1816 Book >> B Page 355-356 >> >> >> There are also many ESTATE PAPERS. >> An inventory was filed 24 Oct. 1815 by Thos Coleman, Drury >> Hern, David >> Richards >> -This included corn, rye, cotton, 7 cows, 50 hogs, 1 yoke >> of oxen, 36 >> sheep, 26 cattle, 7 horses of various colors > > -This also included several Negroes: man >> named Jack, woman named Fillis, >> Washington, girl name L???, girl named Emily, boy named >> Lewwey, woman named >> Judah, boy named Boston, girl named Rachel, boy named >> Prince, boy named >> Sam, girl named Caroline, woman named Lucy, girl named >> Zena, girl named >> Harriet, girl named Eliza, boy named Joe, woman named >> Crecy, woman named >> Seanty, >> woman named Mary >> -Total value $7353.50 >> Property sold belonging to the estate of Dionysius Oliver >> Decd December 30, >> 1815 >> -this sale included mostly small household items such as a >> looking glass, >> tallow candle molds, sheets, etc. for a total of $1751.99 >> -Three Negroes Jack, Phyllis & Whashington were >> purchased by William Parten >> -One Negro girl Lucrey was purchased by Leo Parten >> -One Negro girl Emily was purchased by William Coursey >> Money was paid out for sewing of clothes by Mrs. Burt [note >> other times she >> is called Widow Burt or Mrs. Jeaneen Burt] and Mrs. P. >> Goode and the >> purchase of two pairs of shoes for >> Lewelling. At another time a knife, a >> mare, >> shoeing of his horse, suspenders, buttons, >> a hat, a pair of boots, etc. >> Although Board is often paid for him, it never indicates to >> who. [Note >> some >> postings suggest he was raised by his late mother's sister > > named Talitha >> Goode. There is one mention of a Talitha >> Watskins paid $15.75 from the >> estate on June 5, 1820 and the one mention of Mrs. P? Goode >> sewing clothes, >> but >> that is all.] >> Lewelling's education is mentioned a few times in the >> accounts, i.e. >> Richard M. Todd for schooling, Lewis Holloway for tuition >> and books, etc. >> An accounting of a sale made by Thos Coleman on 31 Jan 1817 >> for $1517 >> Money was paid out in Dec. 1819, including $100 "Cash to >> Lewelling" and $1 >> to a Mid Wife >> Money paid out through Nov. 1821 including "Boarding >> Lewelling Oliver 1820" >> for $80 and "articles for use of the plantation" $187 >> signed by David >> Richardson >> Money received for cotton sold in Charleston and Augusta in >> 1820 and 1821 >> The last entry is this collection is 1822. >> >> My interpretation follows: >> This Dionysius Oliver clearly had just the one son >> Lewellling who I believe >> was born >> about 1805 assuming these census records pertain to him: >> >> 1850 United States Federal Census > Alabama > Sumter >> > Warsaw >> Lewellen Oliver 45 M 8000 SC >> Eliza 42 F SC >> Ann 18 F AL >> Dunelia 14 M AL [actually >> Dionysius] >> Luellen 10 M AL >> Robert 6 M AL >> Dabney 3 M AL >> >> 1860 United States Federal Census > Alabama > Sumter >> > Northern >> Division >> 82 82 Lewellyn Oliver 54 M Farmer 43,000 >> 140,000 SC >> Francis H Oliver 40 F SC >> Robt Oliver 16 M AL >> Lewellyn Oliver 18 M AL >> >> >> He mentions a sister Jane Ragsdale, a brother John, a >> brother Peter who had >> a son Dionysius, and then there is mention of a nephew >> Berrien, son of >> Dionysius Oliver! The only way I can make >> that work is that he had another >> >> sister who married a cousin named Dionysius >> Oliver. I found a marriage >> record >> for such a marriage: >> >> Marriages of Granville County, North Carolina, 1753-1868 >> Oliver, Dyonisisu & Polley Oliver, 26 Jan 1790; Joseph >> Smith bm; A. >> Henderson wit. >> Whether this is them.......I don't know. >> >> If so then this is likely the son's marriage: >> Marriages of Granville County, North Carolina, 1753-1868 >> Oliver, Berrien & Mary B. Royster, 12 Nov 1821; Willis >> A. 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