Yes, our Fred Marion Oliver was married to a Jessie Smeaton and had two children Archie born in 1902 and Hazel Isabel born in 1904.? They lived in St Charles, Saginaw County, Michigan,? His parents were Edison Andrew Oliver and his Mother was Ellen Estelle Thayer.? Does this help? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:18 pm Subject: Re: [OLIVER] Scottish Olivers Fraser/Oliphant What do you know about Fred Oliver. Since I can find nothing on Ferdinand, some people have said that he might have been called Fred. He was born in Ohio, and was back and forth between Indiana and Illinois. Have you traced HIS family? Sharon Oliver Clay ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 23:07:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [OLIVER] Scottish Olivers Fraser/Oliphant I don't know if ours our black sheep, but, I wouldn't be surprised, everything is such a secret and I have hit a brick wall also!!!!? Though, I finally found out who his 3rd gr grandfathers dad and his brother was which was a miracle!! My husband is James E Oliver, Father Archie E Oliver, gr ftr Fred M Oliver, great grandfather Edison Oliver, gr gr grandfather William Oliver, gr gr gr grandfather Alpheus M Oliver (Born in NY 2 June 1800) 4th gr grandfather John Oliver, and Alpheus Brother William born 1799 in Springfield, NY and died in the War of 1812 at the age of 16, June 5, 1815. I know from NY they moved to Ohio, and then to Michigan, living mostly in Saginaw and Shiawassee Counties.? Alpheus bought propert all over the United States. It would be wonderful if our Oliver's were related!!! Evon Oliver -----Original Message----- From: Janis Wetherbee To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:00 pm Subject: Re: [OLIVER] Scottish Olivers Fraser/Oliphant Yes, I do!! Where is his Olivers from? Mine was the black sheep and is a brick wall. Janis ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [OLIVER] Scottish Olivers Fraser/Oliphant > > Are you from Havasu?? We have a home there, though I do live in Tn.? I > spend alot of time in Havasu. > > > > My husband is of the Oliver family, and we are currently doing alot of > research on his "Oliver family" > > Evon Oliver > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > To: OL [email protected] > Sent: Thu, Sep 17, 2009 1:01 pm > Subject: Re: [OLIVER] Scottish Olivers Fraser/Oliphant > > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: havasuhattie > Surnames: Oliver, carpenter, groom, > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.oliver/4859.1.1.2/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > My grandfather was an Oliver unknown exactly which country he came from. > I can > only trace him back to somewhere in VA early 1800. I have dupeytrens > contracture. My father had a mild case (not an Oliver) and my brother > (oliver > decendant) also has milder case than I. I don't have contracture but I > have > multiple scaring on palms of hands. I was told this is more frequent in > males > than females > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like > to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and > respond > on the board. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > OLIVER Most Wanted http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/oliver.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > > > > > > ---------------- --------------------------- > OLIVER Most Wanted http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/oliver.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------- OLIVER Most Wanted http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/oliver.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------- OLIVER Most Wanted http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/oliver.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------- OLIVER Most Wanted http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/oliver.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message