This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MDuggins724 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.oliver/363.659.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Don't know anything more on that Joseph. The info on John came from -my "notes" on John: He was a private on the Penn Line. He is in the 1800,1810 Census,Penn, Allegheny Co, Sewickley Twp. 1814 he was taxed in Allegheny Co. 1820,1830 widow on census for Penn, Alleg. Co. Ohio twp. Most info from Mary Brown on Ancestry Message Boards/ Frampton # 338 So that's all I have on Joseph and son John. Try the Frampton message board, OK? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.