Thank you.  I have found Ferdinand on the 1860 Census, but not before.  He was b. in 1819. Maybe on the census he was Ferdinand, but otherwise went by Fred? Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: JHATZEN@aol.com To: oliver@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 8:59:37 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [OLIVER] John Wesley Dear Sharon,   I have had ancestors (not Oliver) named Ferdinand before, and they went by   Fred. You might check for Fred Oliver.   Jeanne     In a message dated 5/13/2009 6:54:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time,   sharonlclay@comcast.net writes: Kim, By any chance do you recall running into a  Ferdinand Oliver about 1820 in Ohio? He has been very elusive.   Sharon Oliver Clay ----- Original Message ----- From:  "Kimberly Anez" <joelanez@somtel.net> To: OLIVER@rootsweb.com   Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 8:23:18 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific   Subject: [OLIVER] John Wesley I seem to recall a number of John  Wesley OLIVERs in my research over the last twenty-plus years.  Most  of my search has revolved around WV and OH for my OLIVERs.  Most of  what I had on those folks, I got from LDS microfilms more than twenty  years ago. J  Kim ------------------------------------------- OLIVER  Most Wanted http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/oliver.html   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list,  please send an email to OLIVER-request@rootsweb.com with the word  'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message   ------------------------------------------- OLIVER  Most Wanted  http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/oliver.html ------------------------------- To  unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OLIVER-request@rootsweb.com  with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of  the message **************Dell Mini Netbooks: Great deals starting at $299 after instant savings! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221972443x1201442012/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B214819441%3B36680237%3Bi)   ------------------------------------------- OLIVER Most Wanted http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/oliver.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OLIVER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message