Hi Wilmer, CARTMELL is a name in my family, but I don't have your Nathan in my PAF database. I wonder if you have checked other VA resources, like CARTMELL's book? And Wayland's book? There are errors, but they tell me everything has errors. Joyce Franke > William McMachen (I have been informed by Bill McMachen that this person was > Junior, > who married second Elizabeth Cartmell, widow of Nathan Cartmell, > about early 1759).