Hello, I am seeking the ancestors and orogin of George Peter BARR, who according to Cartmell's History, appears in Frederick County in 1766, having removed from Louden County. In 1770, he settled on land adjoining Major Maxwell's grant. I am also interested in the other children he may have had, since I am decended from his third son Robert B. BARR who m. Arimenta AVERY. Their children were: James, John Hugh, (my ancestor), m. Elizabeth ARNOLD, Robert, William, Cornelius B., Ann, and Elizabeth. John Hugh's son Hugh, was my Great Grandfather. He m. Martha SAMPSELL and settled in Hardy Co. W.V.. Family lore has it that the progenitor of the BARR'S in the Winchester area came from Scotland. I am trying to find information and documents that will verify this. Many thanks to anyone who can help me. My E-Mail address is: BETWEH34@aol.com. Bettie Myers Wehland

Curt Only gave you what I had. you sound angry! Gerald ---------- > Regardless what Loucelia S Milburn history states, there are many more > Webber's buried in Pine Grove Cemetery than has been stated here. Likewise > Lucile Milburn and many other Milburns are Webber descendants.

Thanks for your message re Martha Dick and John Webber; that's really the first break I've had! I've been to Pine Grove Cemetery but missed that stone. I'll let you know if we're connected (sort of) Thanks again. SATYJO

Sorry Denny, I don't find any Griffith in my listings. Gerald ---------- Per your message of Wednesday, September 10, 1997 1:51 AM > > Would you do me a favor and look > at those original rolls for John B. Griffith and his wife Margaret ? John was b1795, > d 1869 in Whitehall and died there. When I was at the Old Stone Church last > year I found their names on an "honor roll" on the wall, "John B. Griffith, 1818," and below > him "Maggie". They are not in the list of burials as published in the annual > book I bought last year. Do they appear anywhere in your records?

Rebecca, I have not maintained a database on Renner, although I have often seen the name, especially in southern Frederick County and present-day Shenandoah County. One of the Renners married into the Orndorff family, and I did some work on that family. My information is not assembled. Sorry that I don't have information that you are seeking. Wilmer L. Kerns At 03:51 PM 9/6/97 -0400, you wrote: >I'm looking for a George and Barbary Renner who are believed to have come >from Frederick Co. VA. b. about 1750. They had a large family (John, Mary, >Peter, Margaret, Adam, George, Catherine, ISaac, Barbary, Madelina, Abraham >and Barnet) and moved to Greene Co. PA. George Renner is believed to have >died about 1800. Any information or ideas would be most appreciated. Thanks, >Rebecca Snyder Bromley > >

In a message dated 97-09-09 02:31:00 EDT, you write: << I have been up to The Old Stone Church many years ago. Have a copy of the originals rolls and copied most of the stones. There were many Dix there and believe there has been additional restoration since I was there. >> Gerald, Do not mean to change the subject, but note you have the original rolls and burial information on Old Stone Church. Would you do me a favor and look at those original rolls for John B. Griffith and his wife Margaret ? John was b1795, d 1869 in Whitehall and died there. When I was at the Old Stone Church last year I found their names on an "honor roll" on the wall, "John B. Griffith, 1818," and below him "Maggie". They are not in the list of burials as published in the annual book I bought last year. Do they appear anywhere in your records? If you or anyone has information I would be grateful, as I have nothing on his ancestors. Thank you. Denny Griffith

According to Kentucky Family Records, Volume IX, p. 9, the husband of Sarah Worthington Hays was Robert Hays. I have additional information on the Worthington side, including others mentioned in the will if you are interested. Ann Hewitt Worthington AnnHewitt1@aol.com

Dear Margaret, You reference a Benjamin W. Dix, b. 1804, d. 1892. I do not have any direct information, but have an Elizabeth Dix b. Dec. 16, 1807 in Virginia, d. Dec. 19, 1858 in Hampshire Co. VA. She married Felix McNemar (my 2nd-Great Grandfather) on March 23, 1823. The only other information I have is that Elizabeth had a sister, Mary. There may be some possible connection. If you find any information about the parents of Benjamin or the brothers and sisters, I would appreciate it being posted her or sent to me at the address below. Thanks, Joe McNemar pumpkin_head@msn.com <mailto:pumpkin_head@msn.com> Circleville, OH / They that wait upon the Lord shall \\\' ' / // renew their strength; They shall \\\// _/ // mount up with wings as eagles; they \_-//' / //<' shall run, and not be weary; and \ /// <//' they shall walk, and not faint. / >> \\\' Isa. 40:31 /,)-^>> _\ (/ \\ / \\\ // //\\\ (('

Jo, In going through the "History of the Old Stone Church at Greenspring, Fredrick County, Virginia" Written by Louelia S. Milburn, August 1988, copyright 1992, I find that there are no listed Dick names nor are there any Martha "Dix". or Dixs/Dicks. > Subject: Re: Dix Family in Whitehall Area > Date: Tuesday, September 09, 1997 3:48 PM > I would be very much interested in whatever you have for Dick in the Apple > Pie Ridge/Whitehall area. Gerald Key

On Tuesday, September 09, 1997 5:17 PM Curt Webber wrote: > Understand my gr grandfather John Wesley Webber 1846-1928 second marriage was > to Martha P Dick 1848-1930. Further understand they are burried together in > Pine Grove Cemetery, WV They had four children Unnamed son 1889, Giletta > Webber, Florence Webber, Anna M Webber 1890. In going through the "History of the Old Stone Church at Greenspring, Fredrick County, Virginia" Written by Louelia S. Milburn, August 1988, copyright 1992, I find that there are no listed Dick names nor are there any Martha "Dix". or Dixs/Dicks. Here is a listing of Webbers that are buried in the graveyard: NAME BORN DEATH Webber, Almira Lee 1887 April 9, 1960 Webber, Carl 1886 1968 Webber, Catherine S. 1907 1950 Webber, Grace F. Dec. 30, 1906 Feb. 28, 1964 Webber, Norma Sue (Infant) 1939 Webber, William Douglas Feb. 4, 1935 August 1, 1968 (A3C US Air Force) Regards, Gerald

In a message dated 97-09-09 11:52:14 EDT, you write: << I would be very much interested in whatever you have for Dick in the Apple Pie Ridge/Whitehall area. >> Understand my gr grandfather John Wesley Webber 1846-1928 second marriage was to Martha P Dick 1848-1930. Further understand they are burried together in Pine Grove Cemetery, WV They had four children Unnamed son 1889, Giletta Webber, Florence Webber, Anna M Webber 1890. Curt

Dear Meg, I would be very much interested in whatever you have for Dick in the Apple Pie Ridge/Whitehall area. Thanks, Jo Jarvis--SATYJO@AOL.com

---------- > From: Wilmer L. Kerns <wlkerns@intr.net> > To: OLD-FREDERICK-CO-VA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: SURNAMES in BACK CREEK VALLEY, FREDERICK COUNTY > Date: Saturday, September 06, 1997 10:57 AM > > Here is a list of some of the surname settlers, their origin, religion, and > dates of settlement in Frederick County. Most, with a couple of exceptions, > of these families are subjects in my book, Frederick County, Virginia: > Settlement and Some First Families of Back Creek Valley, 1730-1830 > > Wilmer L. Kerns > > Surname Origin Date to Frederick Co. Religion > > Rogers Wales 1744 Quaker > Barrett England 1735 Quaker > Griffith Wales 1776 Quaker > Ruble Switzerland 1740 Reformed > McCool Ireland 1740 Quaker > Hayworth England 1738 Quaker > Pearson England 1732 Quaker > Scarborough England 1738 Quaker > Smith (Jeremiah) (NJ) 1730 (Not known) > Babb New England 1735 Quaker > Lupton England 1743 Quaker > Wright England 1735 Quaker > Pugh Wales 1740 Quaker > White Scotland 1735 Presbyterian > Julian France 1738 Presbyterian > Malin England 1741 Quaker > Thomas Wales 1734 Quaker > Jenkins Wales 1745 Quaker > Lewis Wales 1745 Quaker > Bevan Wales 1763 Quaker > Fisher England 1763 Quaker > Kerns (Jacob) Germany 1774 Reformed > Wickersham England 1772 Quaker > Waln England 1782 Quaker > Cartmell England 1735 Quaker > Larrick Germany 1749 Lutheran > Secrist Germany 1748 Lutheran > Kackley Germany 1740 Lutheran > Adams England 1750 Quaker > Bageant England 1755 Baptist > Marple Wales 1760 Baptist > Cather Ireland 1766 Presbyterian > McKee Ireland 1765 Presbyterian > Brown (Alexander) Ireland 1782 Presbyterian > Brown (Daniel) England 1774 Quaker > Grove Germany 1770 Reformed > Clark England 1765 Quaker > Trowbridge England 1768 Baptist > Dalby England 1784 Methodists > Allemong France/Germany 1768 Reformed > Braithwaite England 1768 Baptist > Capper Ireland 1760 Presbyterian > McDonald Scotland 1776 Presbyterian > Whitacre England 1790 Quaker > Sine Germany 1823 Presbyterian > PurtlebaughGermany 1786 Reformed > DeHaven France/Germany 1790 Reformed > Good Germany 1792 Reformed > Dunlap Ireland 1799 Presbyterian > Scrivener Ireland? 1796 (not known) > Anderson German 1745 Reformed > Shane Ireland 1790s Presbyterian > Sirbaugh Germany 1786 Reformed > Peacemaker Germany1795 Reformed > Streit (Charles) Germany1800 Methodist > Parlett Germany? 1788 Brethren > Hook England 1775 Anglican > Hollingsworth Ireland 1732 Quaker > Walker England 1735 Quaker > Fries Germany 1789 Reformed > Shanholtzer Germany 1789 Reformed > Rinker Switzerland 1757 Reformed > Ballinger England 1736 Quaker > Hoge Scotland 1734 Presbyterian > Rosenberger Germany 1768 Reformed > Taylor England 1756 Anglican > Heironimus Germany 1758 Reformed > Snapp Germany 1740 Reformed > Mercer (Joshua) France 1787 Methodist > Hott France/Germany 1774 Reformed > Coe England 1790 Baptist > Potts England 1740 (not known) > Null/Noel France/Germany 1787 Lutheran > > For further information contact: > > Wilmer L. Kerns > 4715 N. 38th Place > Arlington, VA 22207-2914 > > wlkerns@intr.net > Parlett surname is English. If the Parlett's are in your book, i would like a copy. Joshua Parlett (spouse Catherine Price) of Franklin County is my gr gr gr gr grandfather. If he settled in Franklin County in1788 then all his children except my gr gr gr grandfather Joshua b.1786 must have been born in Franklin county. You can E- mail me privately for cost of book. Donna Parlette parlette@wolv.tds.net

Gerald: Frederick County Marriages, 1738-1850. Compiled by John Vogt and T. William Kethley, Jr., Copyright 1984 by John vogt, Revised edition 1987, published by Iberian Publishing Company, Athens, GA AND Frederick County Virginia Marriage Bonds by Joan D. Hackett and Rebecca H. Good, copyright 1992, Published by Heritage Books, Inc., Bowie, Maryland both have the following entry: "16 May 1846 Benjamin Dix & Mary M. Right, Bondsman, George Y. Fries" I find nothing in these books about the parents of Benjamin DIX. Jack R. Louthan louthanj@erols.com ================================================================== Gerald Key wrote: The below family came out of the Whitehall area (Apple Pie Ridge) circa 1870. Some are buried at the Old Stone Church. Would like any info on this family, particularly interested in parents of Benjamin, who was R

At 08:32 PM 9/8/97 -0400, you wrote: >Hi Phyllis, >Thanks for your enquirey into the Perrills. (part snipped) and John Perrill w/m Mary Pitzer. >Thanks! >Vivian Vivian et al, Do you have any further information on the PITZER line? I have a John Pitzer who married Mary VANDAMENT ca 1818 and had 10 children (all named PITZER!). They came from VA or PA and went into Brown Co. Ohio. Carol Jones Wilson Rt 1 Box 139 Mason, WI 54856 cjwilson@win.bright.net "Genealogy is the only hobby where dead people can really excite you."

Hi Phyllis, Thanks for your enquirey into the Perrills. I really don't know a lot about them except the ones I have researched for awhile and seem to come to a dead end My JOHN PERRILL died ca 1837 in Berkley Co. WVA. He died intestate so the only thing I have is a copy of the sale bill. His daughter Elizabeth married my Ggrandfather THOMAS THORNBURG. I did have a little information given me by one of (we think) Johns descendents. There was my Elizabeth b. ca 1812 M. 13 Aug, 1829 , Mary w/m Dorsey Horner, Catherine w/m John Spitsnoggle in 1842 and Emily w/m Samuel Coonts 1840, and John Perrill w/m Mary Pitzer. Do any of these names sound familiar to you? I do have a family group sheet from a lady in East Berlin PA who ahs a SUSAN MARGARET but it doesn't have a date of birth. It is probably who you are looking for. If you can give me more details I will check for you. Stay in touch please...Them Perrills are very elusive. Thanks! Vivian

The following comes from the 'Family History of Jeremiah Fenton of Adams Co., OH' Can anyone help me prove or dis-prove it? Mary Alice Jackson, born 28 Aug 1825, Frederick Co., VA. dau of Abel and Rachel Fenton Jackson. Marr. to Z. Rea 28 Apr 1845 in Albemarle Co., VA. Thanks Jack -- <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< DRAGONRAID The Christian RPG and Scripture Memorization System for Young and Old Alike <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <><

Hi-- I have the cemetery records book of Berkeley County--I have ancestry in the Apple Pie Ridge area (Gold). I've looked for Dix but find no burials in the book. There are some for Dick. Do you think those would help? Let me know. Meg At 03:14 PM 9/8/97 -0000, you wrote: >The below family came out of the Whitehall area (Apple Pie Ridge) circa >1870. Some are buried at the Old Stone Church. Would like any info on this >family, particularly interested in parents of Benjamin, who was Rebecca, >2nd wife of Benjamin and any other info available. > >Benjamin W Dix, b. 1804, d. 1892 >+Mary Magdaline Right, b. 1830, m. 1846, d. 1911 >*** Elizabeth Mildred Dix, b. 1847 >*** David Henry Dix, b. 1849, d. 1928 >* +Harriett Euella Hunt, b. 1855 NC, m. 1875, d. 1887 Winfield, KS >*** John William Dix, b. 1850, d. 1917 >*** Daniel Jenny Dix, b. 1852, d. 1925 >*** Robert Dix, b. 1854 VA, d. 1887 >*** Samuele E. Dix, b. 1854 Frederick Co., VA, d. 1914 VA >* +Sarah E (--?--) >*** Ruth Ellen Dix, b. 1855 >+Rebecca (--?--), m. circa 1860 >*** Oliver C. Dix, b. 1864, d. Whitehall, VA >* +Alice Able >* +Mary A Fries, m. 1894, d. 1894 VA >* +Louisa F Weakley, m. 1923 >*** Joseph H. Dix, b. 1866 > +Hattie J. (--?--), b. circa 1871 KS >Thanks > >Gerald Key >gikey@cyberstation.net > >

-- [ From: Dory and Dave Lichtenberger * EMC.Ver #2.5.3 ] -- I have a will of Sarah Hays, 1747, Frederick Co, VA in which she names son, Joseph, Mother, sisters Else Bodingham and Martha Swern, along with brothers Samuel & Robert Worthington. Can anyone tell me who Sarah's husband was? My interest lies in the John Hays and Sarah Evans families of Berkeley Co. VA in the 1700's. Your comments and suggestions are welcomed. Dory Lichtenberger <SWZP46A@prodigy.com>

Thanks for looking Meg. I have been up to The Old Stone Church many years ago. Have a copy of the originals rolls and copied most of the stones. There were many Dix there and believe there has been additional restoration since I was there. Hope I have not misconstrued the territory under Old-Fredrick-Co. The prime ancestor, Benjamin Dix is buried in KS but have never been able to get a handle on his parents or when he came into the Whitehall/Greenspring areea of VA. No one seems to have been able to pin that down in spite of the fact that there are distant relatives in the general area. Thanks anyway for your help. Gerald ---------- > Margaret Stevenson wrote > I have the cemetery records book of Berkeley County--I have ancestry in the > Apple Pie Ridge area (Gold). I've looked for Dix but find no burials in > the book. There are some for Dick. Do you think those would help? Let me > know. > > Meg