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Caty SELF m. Jonathan FEAGITT on 21 MAY 1794 in Westmoreland County, VA. We would like information on the descendants of this family. Please contact Webmaster with any info at: Self Family NetLetter http://www.inland.net/~tim/

Thanks to all who answered my query. It was Paul who gave me the reply I needed. It was a mistake and should have been Frederick Co. Appreciate all the help. -- Preston, Madaline H prestomh@jmu.edu

Does anyone know what the parentheses around the state's initials mean on a federal census form? In the 1880 Scioto County, Ohio census, for example, my gg grandfather John A. Custer was listed as being born in W.Va. in 1845 (actually Va. at that date, I know) and both his parents are listed as W.Va., but in parentheses. Did this mean the person giving the information didn't know for certain? I'm pretty certain his parents were born in Maryland, anyway, and some other records agree with that. Just wondered what the parentheses meant. Any ideas? -- Regards, Michael A. Radcliff mradclif@marshall.edu

John Mahoney born 1800 VA, married 1830 Shenadoah Co Rebecca Moyer or Meyers; She daughter of Susanna Strickler daughter of Sebastian Strickler. Who was Susanna's husband? Who were John Mahoney's parents? Any help appreciated. jean

Need death date of Sarah Windel who married Jacob Grove Shenandoah Co 1789; had children: Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Augustus, Benjamin, Sarah (Sally) married Samuel Barr, Mary Ann and Mary. After death of Sarah, Jacob married Mary Bowman, widow of George. Any information appreciated. Jean

It is said that Judah SELF, son of Henry Self of VA., had a daughter who married John BEALE. Information on this family and any descendants would be appreciated. Please contact Webmaster with any info at: Self Family NetLetter http://www.inland.net/~tim/

--------------------- Forwarded message: Subj: William Turner/Thomas Turner Date: 97-09-11 14:49:48 EDT From: CGreen3142 To: OLD-FREDERICK-CO-VA-L@rootsweb.com I am looking for information on William Turner. He had a son, Thomas Turner who was born November 16, 1874 in Harper's Ferry, VA (BerkeleyCO) and married Hannah Carson May 7, 1918 in Harper's Ferry. She was the daughter of James Beatty Carson. I'd also like information on this Carson line. Thanks for your help. Carol

RICK CARPENTER wrote: > Hello list, > > Charla Marchione responded to Karen Austin about the Owen Thomas family and > this book was mentioned. I really couldn't tell if Karen had said something > about it and it was quoted in Charla's reply, or not. > > Anyhow, I have two collateral ancestors who were married in old Frederick > County Virginia on 10 Apr 1768 by a traveling minister from Frederick County > Maryland. They were Jacob SURBER and Catherine {HALLER} COFFIELD. Both were of > Swiss German origin from Kanton Zurich. I have been told that the marriage was > recorded in Maryland, but I haven't seen the records and don't know where to > look. I'd also like to know the name of this minister. He was supposedly on > his third such trip through Virginia, and I would guess that he was either > Lutheran or Reformed. > > If whoever has the "Colonial Ministers..." book could look in there for me, I'd > appreciate it. Any any clues as to how to research the marriage record would > also be appreciated. What little I've been able to research about Maryland > marriages concerning Surbers hasn't turned up anything. > > Thanks, > Rick > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > John Richard (Rick) Carpenter, Jr. > Sam Houston Press, Sam Houston State University 409.294.1856 > Huntsville TX 77341-2326 gra_jrc@shsu.edu Rick: I was looking through old messages and came upon this one from you. I suppose you have the information on Jacob Surber from Shenandoah County. Jacob witnessed the will of my Ancestor, Jacob Miller. Kyle Miller

I've got a Peter Pfitzer/Fitzer in Greene Co. Pa. Had dealings with my ancestor. Lots from Berkeley went up there. Do you think there's a connection? Pat

Hello, Does anyone have any further information on the name PITZER? I am researching the family of John PITZER birthdate guessed at ca 1790-1800. He married Catherine VANDAMENT/VAN DEMAN, whose family was from Augusta Co, VA. They had 10 children: John B., Joseph, Henry, Rebecca, Matilda, Nancy, Martha Ann, Delia, William Jackson and Eliza. At 01:10 PM 9/11/97 -0400, Vivian wrote: >I am looking for descendents of the following: John SPITSNOGLE who married >Katherine PERRILL. 21 July, 1842, Ann PERRILL w/m Jacob SPITSNOGLE 7, April >1842, Basil PERRILL w/m Polly CAMPBELL 25 Nov. 1797, Emily PERRILL w/m >Samuel COONTZ 24 Dec. 1840, John PERRILL w/m Hannah MCFARLAND 17 Dec. >1829, John PERRILL w/m Mary PITZER 29 May, 1832, Dorsey HORNER w/m Mary >PERRILL 5 April, 1832 and Thomas PERRILL w/m Rosanna EVERSOLE, all in >Berkley Co. WVA. >I have reason to believe some of these people are the siblings of my >Elizabeth PERRILL w/m Thomas THORNBURG 13 Aug. 1829 in Berkley Co. >Who is the father of Elizabeth? Her marriage bond was signed by John PERRILL >and on her death notice it says she was the daughter of John and Elizabeth >PERRILL. There must have been 2 John Perrills in the area at the same time. > I have the pension papers of the John PERRILL who was married to ELIZABETH >PRICE and moved to Ohio. This surely isn't my John. I cannot fit either >John or his daughter Elizabeth into this family. I do have a copy of the >sale bill of John PERRILL dated 1836. I also have a copy of the >appraisement and it mentions a silver watch to go to Thomas PERRILL, Bay mare >colt to William PERRILL 25 bushel of flour to John MCFARLAND, chain to > Daniel RYSER, 25 bushel Rye to James PORTERFIELD, a tray, candlesticks and >vinegar to Thomas PAYNE. The copy is very poor quality and there are more >names on the list but I will save them until I can find out who this list of >people is. Can anyone help me with this? Does any of the names look >familiar? >Thanks! >Vivian (VMcca43559@aol.com) > > > Carol Jones Wilson Rt 1 Box 139 Mason, WI 54856 cjwilson@win.bright.net Genealogist's Bad Dream: "The portion of the index containing your ancestor is continued in the next issue, but the publisher died prior to publication."

--------------------- Forwarded message: Subj: William Turner/Thomas Turner Date: 97-09-11 14:49:48 EDT From: CGreen3142 To: OLD-FREDERICK-CO-VA-L@rootsweb.com I am looking for information on William Turner. He had a son, Thomas Turner who was born November 16, 1874 in Harper's Ferry, VA (BerkeleyCO) and married Hannah Carson May 7, 1918 in Harper's Ferry. She was the daughter of James Beatty Carson. I'd also like information on this Carson line. Thanks for your help. Carol

Hello, To all that may have emailed me in the past week I have had mail server problems, please re-email. Sorry for the inconvenience. Thank You, Lee Ralph

I am looking for information on William Turner. He had a son, Thomas Turner who was born November 16, 1874 in Harper's Ferry, VA (BerkeleyCO) and married Hannah Carson May 7, 1918 in Harper's Ferry. She was the daughter of James Beatty Carson. I'd also like information on this Carson line. Thanks for your help. Carol

I am looking for descendents of the following: John SPITSNOGLE who married Katherine PERRILL. 21 July, 1842, Ann PERRILL w/m Jacob SPITSNOGLE 7, April 1842, Basil PERRILL w/m Polly CAMPBELL 25 Nov. 1797, Emily PERRILL w/m Samuel COONTZ 24 Dec. 1840, John PERRILL w/m Hannah MCFARLAND 17 Dec. 1829, John PERRILL w/m Mary PITZER 29 May, 1832, Dorsey HORNER w/m Mary PERRILL 5 April, 1832 and Thomas PERRILL w/m Rosanna EVERSOLE, all in Berkley Co. WVA. I have reason to believe some of these people are the siblings of my Elizabeth PERRILL w/m Thomas THORNBURG 13 Aug. 1829 in Berkley Co. Who is the father of Elizabeth? Her marriage bond was signed by John PERRILL and on her death notice it says she was the daughter of John and Elizabeth PERRILL. There must have been 2 John Perrills in the area at the same time. I have the pension papers of the John PERRILL who was married to ELIZABETH PRICE and moved to Ohio. This surely isn't my John. I cannot fit either John or his daughter Elizabeth into this family. I do have a copy of the sale bill of John PERRILL dated 1836. I also have a copy of the appraisement and it mentions a silver watch to go to Thomas PERRILL, Bay mare colt to William PERRILL 25 bushel of flour to John MCFARLAND, chain to Daniel RYSER, 25 bushel Rye to James PORTERFIELD, a tray, candlesticks and vinegar to Thomas PAYNE. The copy is very poor quality and there are more names on the list but I will save them until I can find out who this list of people is. Can anyone help me with this? Does any of the names look familiar? Thanks! Vivian (VMcca43559@aol.com)

Hi Bill, I am sorry I have been a bit in responding, but I wanted to rechart my information from Cartmell's History, which has been my major source of refrence for the early decendants of George Peter BARR. It gets a bit confusing because so many of the names are continued down through the generations. Here is what I have: A John BARR appears in the western part of Frederick County about 1816, apparently fully grown, because he purchased land. He married Ann HAYMAKER, daughter of Henry HAYMAKER. There is a biographical sketch of the HAYMAKERS in Cartmell, but I only have the BARR info. Further on it states that Oscar, brother of my Robert B. m. Lucy J. KERRELL, daughter of Dempsey KERRELL of Loudoun Co.. Their children were: Virginia m. C. E. HUNTSBERRY, Walter E. m. Miss STINE, Mary E. m. A. E. Dabney, Thomas M. m. a Miss SEAL. Cartmell goes on to say that Oscar BARR had been for a while a merchant in Hampshire County, Va.,W. V.. He moved back to Winchester where he controlled a large mercantile business on North Main Street. He was succeeded by his son Walter E., who became ill and he was succeeded by his son Thomas M.. The dates for this John BARR seem to indicate that he could have been the father of your Sarah (Sally) BARR. Wheather Thomas M. moved on to Ohio, I do not know, but hopefully this may give you some clues to persue. As I continue my quest for the origin of George Peter BARR, I will keep a watch for Sarah. Hope this has been of some help. Bettie

In a message dated 97-09-10 15:44:05 EDT, you write: << Curt Only gave you what I had. you sound angry! Gerald >> Sorry if that is the way I came accross. I was only trying to let the inquirer the information that I have and that which others have researched. Good Luck Gerald Hope to be in touch sometime later. Curt

RE Dick in Webber genealogy, re: Charles Hoover Dick with him several children, I grew up with that family in Winchester, VA; in fact Susan and I were in the same graduating class at Handley High School. thanks for the info. SATYJO

Hi Bettie - Sorry I cannot assist, but your question prompts me to inquire of you: My GGF, Thornton W. HAINES, m. 1823 Frederick Co Sarah (Sally) BARR, described as orphan dau of John BARR. I have not been able to identify her father. She was not of age in 1823 thus might guess her b.d. ca 1806. 1830 they relocated to Franklin Co., OH, she d. 1835, OH Do your files have anything that might shed light? Secondly, the will of Thomas Emerson (resident of Patterson Creek Valley, Hampshire Co from 1779-1806 thence to OH), 1826, Pickaway Co (Circleville) OH mentions a Thomas BARR and the two witnesses are John BARR and Robert BARR. It is possible the John BARR, witness, could be the father of Sarah. My assumption is that these BARR's were family friends who had also relocated from Hampshire/ Frederick to OH. Do these people appear to be part of your clan? Bill P. O. Box 165 The Sea Ranch, CA 95497 Voice 707-785-3268 Fax/Data 707-785-2682

In a message dated 97-09-10 02:39:59 EDT, you write: << In going through the "History of the Old Stone Church at Greenspring, Fredrick County, Virginia" Written by Louelia S. Milburn, August 1988, copyright 1992, I find that there are no listed Dick names nor are there any Martha "Dix". or Dixs/Dicks. >> Dicks in Pine Grove Cemetery, White Hall area Regardless what Loucelia S Milburn history states, there are many more Webber's buried in Pine Grove Cemetery than has been stated here. Likewise Lucile Milburn and many other Milburns are Webber descendants. Additional Dick in Webber genealogy Charles Hoover Dick 5/19/1917 d 8/17/1984 m Ida Lucille Webber b 5/20/1916 Children Susan Dick, Cecillia Dick,Anne Claire Dick,John Dick,J Benjamin Dick, Thomas Dix Also Henry Lee Edward Shirley 6/15/1893 Dehaven Fred co Va d 5/10/1977 Winchester Married Lola Christiune Dick 7/4/1900 Unger Morgan WV d 3/4/1975 Winchester Va were married in Hagerstown Washington Md 10/17/1918 Edward Adams 1851 1953 Frederick Co Va Margaret Dick 1849 Married 11/23/1869 Frederick Co Va. Asa Jefferson Adams 4/15/1813 Fredrick Co Va d 7/31/1886 Frederick Co Va was married to Mary Ann Dick 1815 married 1/31/1836 Curt