Lonnie Fink wrote: > > Hello everyone, > Read with interest the thread concerning the Minister Rev Christain STREIT. > > Have several marriages in Fred Co,VA with numerous apparently unconnected > families, who were married by Alexander BALMAIN and Lewis CHASTAIN. Can > anyone supply me with the info on these fellows. > > Religious affliations? Churches? > > Did they travel to any churches outside the Fred Co,VA area? I am looking at > the pre 1800 time frame 1780-1795. > Boy, it would be nice to see the same kind of discussion on these as we did > Rev. Christain STREIT. > > Thanks a lot. > > Lonnie Fink > > Lonnie fink > InGenWeb Coordinator Floyd/Dubois Co,IN > KyGenWeb Coordinator Shelby/Pulaski Co,KY > http://www.dmrtc.net/~lonfink/wifeme.html > lonfink@dmrtc.net I think you have solved a problem for me. I have copies of several pages of "Frederick County, Virginia Marriages - 1771-1825. Compiled and edited by Eliza Timberlake Davis - 1941, Facsimile - 1973. It is in the RELIC collection of the Prince William Va. County Library. Entries are as follows: Edmundson, Archibald and Nancy Wrenn, Oct. 29, 1789. A.B. Each entry has two or three letters which I now believe to be the initials of the person who performed the marriage, in this case Aleander Balmain. There are hundreds of entries and on the three pages I have, many AB's, CS's and LC's. Can someone tell me exactly what I have to do to access the archives of this list? I just joined 9/28 and would like to be able to see what's in there. Thanks. Pat White (EDMONDSON, HUFF, VENABLE, WRENN)

I saw your posting and I have a book that I think has some of your Hollingsworth's. It has names and dates and children. The book is "Pioneers of Old Frederick County, Virginia" If you need any of this information let me know. Kathi Kathik@texas.net At 10:35 AM 9/29/97 UT, you wrote: >I saw the posting about the mill of Joesph Hollingsworth, late 1700's of >Frederick Co.. I have ancestry through Isaac Hollingsworth (I believe he's >the brother to the Joseph you refer to as the owner of the mill) Til your >posting i knew nothing of a woollen mill operation. If this is the same >family parents of Joseph Hollingsworth are George Hollingsworth and Hannah Mc >Kay of Hopewell. Hope someone reading this is interested in the genealogical >data of this family as well as the historical and business venture. >Appreciate your posting. Would love to know more about the Hollingsworth >family and/or their business.Thanks, Jacquelyn Martin eldridgemartin@msn.com > > > ================================= Kathi Kaufman Kathik@texas.net ================================= ==== OLD-FREDERICK-CO-VA Mailing List ==== Visit the Frederick County,VA USGenWeb Home Page! http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafreder/frederic.htm

Hello everyone, I am looking for information on the ancestors of my third great grandmother, Arimenta AVERY, wife of Robert B. BARR. In the biographical sketch of the BARR family in Cartmell's History it indicates that she was from Fairfax County. She was born about 1780. Their children were James, John, Hugh, Robert, William, Cornelius B, Ann, and Elizabeth. Any information would be much appreciated. Bettie Myers Wehland ==== OLD-FREDERICK-CO-VA Mailing List ==== Visit the Frederick County,VA USGenWeb Home Page! http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafreder/frederic.htm

I'am looking for Ancestors of Jacob T. Ewing b: April 8, 1807, d: August 21, 1869 in Augusta Co., Va. and married to Sarah Catherine Sheets b; June 16, 1810, d. February 2, 1883 Also Joseph D. Landram birth and death dates not known, but most likely in the mid 1800s. Thank in advance Lester Mason

Alexander Balmain was Episcopalian.

Trying to verify the mother of Elizabeth Culp dau of John Culp Sr (his will was probated Hampshire Co 28 Aug 1843). His daughter Elizabeth Culp was the spouse of Isaac James. Hoping there's a Culp researcher who can help me identify Elizabeth's mother. Thanks, Jacquelyn Martin, eldridgemartin@msn.com

I saw the posting about the mill of Joesph Hollingsworth, late 1700's of Frederick Co.. I have ancestry through Isaac Hollingsworth (I believe he's the brother to the Joseph you refer to as the owner of the mill) Til your posting i knew nothing of a woollen mill operation. If this is the same family parents of Joseph Hollingsworth are George Hollingsworth and Hannah Mc Kay of Hopewell. Hope someone reading this is interested in the genealogical data of this family as well as the historical and business venture. Appreciate your posting. Would love to know more about the Hollingsworth family and/or their business.Thanks, Jacquelyn Martin eldridgemartin@msn.com

To Lonnie Fink: The Rev. Alexander Balmain was born in Scotland in 1740, and was educated at St. Andrews University. He was brought to this country to be a tutor in the home of the famous Richard Henry Lee in Westmoreland County, VA. Balmain later returned to London where he studied for ordination in the established church. He came to Augusta County (VA) in 1771 where he served as assistant rector of the parish. In 1782, he became rector of Frederick Parish, where he served until his death in 1821. His Journal for that period of time is at Christ Episcopal Church in Winchester, but researchers are directed to a xeroxed copy which is maintained by the Handley Regional Library, Archives Division, in Winchester. In 1786, the Rev. Balmain married Lucy Taylor, a cousin of James Madison. Among the many marriage ceremonies performed by the Rev. Balmain was that of James Madison to Dolly Payne Todd, on Sept. 15, 1794. This marriage is recorded in the Frederick County Marriage Book I. Unlike some of the German clergy who travelled to minister in various places in the Shenandoah Valley, Rev. Balmain's ministerial duties were discharged within Frederick Parish. He was the officially appointed rector of the parish. Wilmer L. Kerns At 07:39 PM 9/28/97 -0600, you wrote: >Hello everyone, > Read with interest the thread concerning the Minister Rev Christain STREIT. > >Have several marriages in Fred Co,VA with numerous apparently unconnected >families, who were married by Alexander BALMAIN and Lewis CHASTAIN. Can >anyone supply me with the info on these fellows. > >Religious affliations? Churches? > >Did they travel to any churches outside the Fred Co,VA area? I am looking at >the pre 1800 time frame 1780-1795. >Boy, it would be nice to see the same kind of discussion on these as we did >Rev. Christain STREIT. > > >Thanks a lot. > >Lonnie Fink > >Lonnie fink >InGenWeb Coordinator Floyd/Dubois Co,IN >KyGenWeb Coordinator Shelby/Pulaski Co,KY >http://www.dmrtc.net/~lonfink/wifeme.html >lonfink@dmrtc.net > >

The name of the book is "Frontier Forts ALong the Potomac & its Tributaries" by William H Ansel, Jr. I have a copy of this book, would you like me to do a lookup? christine in Maryland ==== OLD-FREDERICK-CO-VA Mailing List ==== Visit the Frederick County,VA USGenWeb Home Page! http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafreder/frederic.htm

Hello everyone, Read with interest the thread concerning the Minister Rev Christain STREIT. Have several marriages in Fred Co,VA with numerous apparently unconnected families, who were married by Alexander BALMAIN and Lewis CHASTAIN. Can anyone supply me with the info on these fellows. Religious affliations? Churches? Did they travel to any churches outside the Fred Co,VA area? I am looking at the pre 1800 time frame 1780-1795. Boy, it would be nice to see the same kind of discussion on these as we did Rev. Christain STREIT. Thanks a lot. Lonnie Fink Lonnie fink InGenWeb Coordinator Floyd/Dubois Co,IN KyGenWeb Coordinator Shelby/Pulaski Co,KY http://www.dmrtc.net/~lonfink/wifeme.html lonfink@dmrtc.net

Does anyone have or know of any information on the following Frederick County items? I'm looking for early to mid 1800s information. Hedgeman River Church. Where is/was it? Are there any records? Opequon Manufacturing Company. Where was it? Are there any employee records? Joseph Hollingsworth fulling operation. Where was it? Are there any employee records? Thanks, Rick

Rick, As far as known, there are no extant records of employees of the fulling (woolen) mill of Joseph Hollingsworth. The mill was probably located in what is now southwest Winchester (but then in the County) on Abram's Creek. The time period was the late 1700s, based on a newspaper ad placed by Joseph Hollingsworth in 1789. For more information on the subject of fulling mills in Frederick County, you should consult "Weaving a Common Thread: A History of the Woolen Industry in the Top of the Shenandoah Valley," by Wilbur S. Johnston, 1984. The fully-indexed 139-page book is for sale by the Winchester-Frederick County Historical Society, Pleasant Valley Road, Winchester, VA 22601. Wilmer L. Kerns At 04:40 PM 9/28/97 -0700, you wrote: >Does anyone have or know of any information on the following Frederick >County items? I'm looking for early to mid 1800s information. > >Hedgeman River Church. Where is/was it? Are there any records? > >Opequon Manufacturing Company. Where was it? Are there any employee records? > >Joseph Hollingsworth fulling operation. Where was it? Are there any >employee records? > >Thanks, >Rick > >

Well, I didn't have much luck with this on the VA-Roots list so I will try here. According to Loudoun Co., VA Will Book A, p. 27, an inventory of the estate of William LAYTON was reported to the court on 11 June 1760. In 1770 (different sources) an Andrew LAYTON was a chain carrier for a survey for Nehemiah HARRIS (later assigneed to Robert CRISLEY or CROSLEY) that was made by Richard RIGGS in the Dillon Run country of Back Creek. (Is this in Frederick or in Berkeley?) Finally, an Andrew LAYTON served in the Co of Capt Abel Westfall in 1777 which had a number of individuals from Frederick in the unit. I am trying to learn if there was a connection between the two fellows, and if either or both of them were from the LAYTON family that resided in the Monmouth Co, NJ area. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks. Renee L. Dauven

Jennifer wrote: I have read that Thomas Williams helped Simon Kenton build a blockhouse at the Hinkston or Ruddell station in 1776-1777. Check out the the Kenton Kin Page! http://www.rootsweb.com/~daisy/kenton.htm Good luck in your quest, Yvonne ****** Yvonne James-Henderson, Burke, VA My Home page: Daisy's Roots: http://www.rootsweb.com/~daisy/1daisy.htm alternate addresses: daisy@usroots.com or hen1@idt.net Listowner for these Family Discussion Lists: BALLEAU BRISBIN COOKSEY HITT HORN KENTON LAWSON LUCKY MORROW SWEET ZIMMERMAN Listowner for: The PRINCE WILLIAM, OLD FREDERICK, ROCKBRIDGE CO., VA and MASON CO., KY Discussion Lists

Looking for mother of Elizabeth Culp daughter of John Culp, Sr. John's will was probated 8-28-1843 in Hampshire Co. This is a will citation for Ann Clup. Could this be his wife? Would her maiden name be Collier. If anyone knows, please email me. Thank you. Jacque eldridgemartin@msn.com

I have been looking for information on my 3rd great grandfather for about two years with no success. I just subscribed to this site today and hope someone can help solve my problem. His name was THOMAS K SIMPSON. He appears in the 1830 and 1850 census of Frederick County (he was in Hardy County in 1840). He appears to have married twice in Fauquier County, 1827 to Sinah Bailey and 1831 to Sophia Claggett. I would love to find out who his parents were. Any information would be most welcomed. Thanks, Rick Simpson

At 09:25 PM 9/26/97 -0400, you wrote: >Rev. Streit married my ggg grandparents, Jacob Marker and Mary Kline in Winchester on Jan 17, 1786. He also buried Jacob's father, George Paul Mercher "at midnight." George, according to Streit's diary was born in Alsace, France in 1727. Said he was reared in a Christian manner according to the Lutheran doctrine. Joined in wedlock on the ship on voyage heither in the year 1752. Three children survive, all living and married. Sick for two weeks. Died Monday the 11th of this month. Age 59. buried on the 13th of December 1786. (Note Marker was spelled Mercher in his diary.) > >Why do you suppose he buried him at midnight? > > William, It was interesting to see what type of info Rev. Streit's journal contained. Being buried at midnight does seem odd. Perhaps because the preparations took a while and the Rev. would only be avail. for a short time before leaving to visit other areas? It does seem a bit eerie. Jennifer Mindscape: a place where ideas, language and the imagination converge www.netcom.com/~jahmn/today.htm

At 05:34 PM 9/26/97 -0400, you wrote: Wilmer, Thank you very kindly for such a thorough and helpful response. I've used some of your excellent ref. material in my research -- they have it at the Newberry Library in Chicago. It's great to see you're so active on this list -- of which I'm a newbie. I'll contact the Handley Library in Winchester for more info. Good luck on compiling on you church project and other research. Jennifer >Jennifer, > >The Rev. Christian Streit (1749-1812) was the first Lutheran pastor born on >American soil. Streit earned B.A. and M.A. degrees from the University of >Pennsylvania, and was closely associated with the Muhlenburg family. He >served as a chaplain in the Revolutionary War, and held several pastorates >before coming to Winchester in 1785 to pastor the Lutheran Church until his >death in 1812. Frequently, he preached and performed ceremonies and >sacraments in small congregations in the Shenandoah Valley and what is now >the eastern panhandle of West Virginia. Rev. Streit's Journal is preserved >in the Handley Regional Library, Archives Division, in Winchester. > >The location of the Old Lutheran Church was in what is now the Mt. Hebron >Cemetery in Winchester. Some ruins of the historic church are preserved, >namely a limestone wall. > Jennifer Mindscape: a place where ideas, language and the imagination converge www.netcom.com/~jahmn/today.htm

Wilmer: Thanks for all the info on Rev. Christian Streit. I was able to find info indicating that Rev. Christian Streit performed the marriage, but that was all the info I had. I have seen his name numerous times but never thought to ask what denomination he was. I received the book, thanks for the autograph. Jack R. Louthan louthanj@erols.com ===================================================================== Wilmer L. Kerns wrote: The Rev. Christian Streit (1749-1812) was the first Lutheran pastor born on American soil. Streit earned B.A. and M.A. degrees from the

Wilmer L. Kerns wrote: > > Jennifer, > > The Rev. Christian Streit (1749-1812) was the first Lutheran pastor born on > American soil. Streit earned B.A. and M.A. degrees from the University of > Pennsylvania, and was closely associated with the Muhlenburg family. He > served as a chaplain in the Revolutionary War, and held several pastorates > before coming to Winchester in 1785 to pastor the Lutheran Church until his > death in 1812. Frequently, he preached and performed ceremonies and > sacraments in small congregations in the Shenandoah Valley and what is now > the eastern panhandle of West Virginia. Rev. Streit's Journal is preserved > in the Handley Regional Library, Archives Division, in Winchester. > > The location of the Old Lutheran Church was in what is now the Mt. Hebron > Cemetery in Winchester. Some ruins of the historic church are preserved, > namely a limestone wall. > > Sometimes researchers confuse the Rev. Christian Streit with the Rev. > Christy Sine (same initials). Rev. Sine came to the area in 1823 and served > churches in Hampshire and Frederick Counties until his death in 1854. He was > an early follower of Alexander Campbell, and participated in the development > of the Christian Church, sometimes called the Disciples Church, both now > merged with the United Church of Christ in this area. Rev. Sine's Journal > (1820-1830) has been preserved. If my plans perservere, I expect to publish > the Journal, along with maps and supplemental information about the people > in his Journal. I have written articles on both of these ministers and their > families, for those wishing further information. The published articles are > also in the Handley Archives. > > This is more information than you asked for, but it might be of interest to > other subscribers. > > Wilmer L. Kerns > > At 03:15 PM 9/26/97 -0500, you wrote: > >I'm trying to prove a marriage between Thomas West and Sarah Wright that was > >recorded in Old Fred. Co. > 28 Jan. 1790 <. The minister was Christian Streit. > > > >Does anyone know anything about his denomination? Was he was affiliated with > >a specific church and if so, its location? > > > >Thomas was later a Methodist Episcopal, but he may have started his life in > >a different faith. > > > >If anyone has any information on the families of this couple, I'd be most > >appreciative. I have their descendents born in KY; their first born son was > >John West, first born daughter, Susan West. > > > >Jennifer > >Jennifer > > > >Mindscape: a place where ideas, language and the imagination converge > >www.netcom.com/~jahmn/today.htm > > > > The Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) did not become merged into the United Church of Christ. Some churches of the Christian Church did but not all. The two denominations are now ecumenical partners as off the early 1990's. You will find Christian Churches (Disciples of Christ) in Winchester, Va., Martinsburg, WV and others around area. If you have questions about the continued relationship of specific churches, I will be happy to look them up in our yearbook of Churches. There is a repository for historical records of the Campbell and Stone movement in Nashville, Tennessee. This includes the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ, Churches of Christ and Christian Churches. The United Church of Christ has different repositories for each of the traditions that became apart of it. You ask, Why I'm so out spoken, I'm a minister in the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) and a minister requesting standing in the Uniterd Church of Christ. I serve churches in the metro-D.C. area. Rev. Curtis E. Wheeler