Sandy, "Inmate" is not an occupation, it is separate from "yeoman." Inmate is defined as "Boarder, not head of family" in the Pennsylvania Archives records of inhabitants in the 1700's. It is possible, if not likely, that this defintion was used by other states as well. Hope this helps. Neil McDonald

My ancestors, James and Martha [MILLER] HOLMES, lived in the Jane Furnace area of Botetourt co., VA c1840. Later, they lived in the Covington, VA area. Their daughter, Mary, is my g-grandmother. Mary m: 1) Robert SIMMS; 2) David C. HILL, both in Botetourt county. At the end of the civil war, Martha Holmes came to the Ritchie County, VA[WV] area with her daughters, Mary Holmes SIMMS HILL & husband, David, and Martha HOLMES BECKNER & her husband, Allen, along with all the grandchildren. James HOLMES did not come "over the mountains" with the family. Questions: Who were James HOLMES' parents? Did James serve in the Civil War? where did he die? where buried? What was Martha [?] HOLMES' maiden name? who were her people? Marilyn [email protected]

Dear Old Freds. Thank all of you who sent me definitions. I knew I could count of this group of interested experts. You are all great. Hava a good day. Sincerely, Sandy

Dear Old Fred's. Can anyone tell me the definition of the term "inmate" as pertains to a persons place in society in the 1600s. It would be used like the term "yeoman". For that matter what does the term Yeoman mean? Thanks. Sandy

Not just a farmer but one who cultivates his own land. A class of freeholders below the gentry-English. But obviously not the lowest class. Barbara At 12:55 PM 3/27/99 -0500, Louis Moses wrote: >Sandy, >I never saw the term "inmate" used that way. A yeoman is a farmer. > >Louie > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] [SMTP:[email protected]] >Sent: Saturday, March 27, 1999 12:20 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Definition > >Dear Old Fred's. >Can anyone tell me the definition of the term "inmate" as pertains to a >persons place in society in the 1600s. It would be used like the term >"yeoman". For that matter what does the term Yeoman mean? > >Thanks. >Sandy > > >==== OLD-FREDERICK-CO-VA Mailing List ==== >Happy 2nd Birthday VAGenWeb Project! >Visit the Frederick County USGenWeb Archives! >http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/va/frederic.htm > > >==== OLD-FREDERICK-CO-VA Mailing List ==== >Visit the Frederick County,VA USGenWeb Home Page! >http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafreder/frederic.htm >Visit the Frederick County USGenWeb Archives! >http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/va/frederic.htm > > >

My James Bodkin and Nancy Agnes Luckey were married in Frederick Va around 1800. Two of their daughters were born there between 1800-1810 Sarah and Mary BODKIN Can anyone help me find these ? James Bodkin was on 1810 Census Anyone have access to 1810 Census Joseph Luckey also on 1810 Linda

The following appears in the Jan.-Feb. 1999 issue of The Library of Virginia Newsletter. If anyone goes to the library to see it, please let the list know. I thought that this might be helpful to some on the list. BUSHMAN COLLECTION IS A BOON TO VALLEY GENEALOGISTS "Katherine Gentry Bushman was a professional genealogist, author and local historian, as well as a charter member of the Augusta Co. Historical Society.......She was also past regent of the Thomas Hughart Chapter of the VA D.A.R. She died in 1997. Now her genealogical research files are available at the Library of Virginia. The collection includes family research files ,subject files, compilations and oversize genealogical chars and maps. The majority of the collection is family research files including correspondence with clients for whom Bushman did work. Bushman abstracted genealogical notes from court records, published sources, Bible records, patriotic organization applications, census records, and genealogical charts. These materials also appear in the files. The Bushman collection is an important source of information on the Shenandoah Valley region and the Augusta County area. There is substantial information on the Alexander, Bell, Bushman, Craig, Curry, Davis, Fauber, Greaves, Hogshead, KINKEAD, McCutchan, Polk, Rankin, Robertson, Sheers, Steele , Tate and Wilson families. Processing of this collection is complete and it is ready for use." Ann Researching McCORMICK, BYRNE, TATE, VENABLE ______________________________ --------------------

At 09:28 AM 3/24/99 -0700, you wrote: >Hi, > I am new to the list and this is the family that I am researching. Is >anyone else doing this same family? >John SHAVER, b. 1745/46 Germany. He married Elizabeth PENCE on July >19, 1784 in Shenandoah County, Virginia. He died before May 1, 1851 in >Boone County, Kentucky. He lived to be 105 yrs. old. >Their children were; >1.) Betsy (Elizabeth), m. Abraham ANDERSON on Nov. 10, 1814, Boone Co. >Ky. >2.)Sarah (Sally), m. John HELM on Oct.15, 1818, Boone Co., Ky. >3.) Mary Louise(Polly), b. December 19. 1789 in Madison Co., Virginia, >m. Silas >CRISLER, Sept. 29, 1808 in Boone Co., Ky. d. Dec. 2, 1851 in Illinois. >4.) Catherine(Kitty),b. 1790, m. Joseph WAYLAND on June 21,1812, d. >before 1831 >5.) George Washington SHAVER, m. Elizabeth DIAL on August 17, 1808, d. >March 18, 1869 in >New London Ralls, Co. Missouri. >6.) Jennetta, b.November 10, 1806 in Boone Co.,Ky., m.Elias STRICKLER >COFFMAN on Dec. 31, >1829 in Boone Co.Ky, d. November 12, 1885 in Beloit Kansas >7.) Maria, b. 1807 in Boone Co.Ky., m. Robert GANT in 1818, d. August >22, 1845 in >Randolph Co.Illinois >8. Alfred SHAVER who died at the age of 21. > >Catherine and Joseph WAYLAND'S children were, Richard, John, Lucy, >George Washington, Finks, and Malinda who >married Thomas Underhill on August 3, 1843 in Boone County, Ky. Be careful about an ancestor being 105 years old.....you might have a father and son with the same name, or an uncle and a nephew. If you have found him in the 1850 Boone Co Kentucky census and the age checks.....then you are okay. I only caution you because I have seen people with an ancestor 120 years old......really a father and a son. I have one that was around 100 years old when he died, so some of those ole birds did live a long time. We were lucky to find him in 1840 census in the 90-100 age bracket and he died before the 1850 census, so he might have seen his 100th birthday. I have tried to check newspaper accounts for that time - thinking something would have been written about a man who reached his 100th birthday, but no luck yet. As I said, if you have checked the census and his age checks, then congrats on a 105 year old ancestor. Mary [email protected]

Only name I know of that ends up Dicey is the name Laodicea Ed Albert Web Manager The Albert Family - http://AlbertTree.genealogy.org Albert Ark Newsletter - http://members.aol.com/alberttree Join the Albert Mailing list - send e-mail with "subscribe" in the body to [email protected] for all messages or [email protected] for the digest mode

Here are some German names and nicknames commonly used in the 1700's & 1800's. Abraham Abraham Abe Abram Abram Abe Andreas Andrew Anna Anna, Ann Nancy, Ann Anton Anthony Tunis, Tony Aegidius Giles Baltzer Balthasar Barbara Barbara Bevvy Benjamin Benjamin Ben Bernhard, Barnet Bernard Catharina Catharine Kate, Katie Christian Christian Christ,Christli Christoph Christopher Kit, Stoffel Dewald Theobald Dionysius Denis Dietrich Theodoric Dieter Dorothea Dorothy Elias Elijah Eli Elisabeth Elizabeth Lis, Lizzie, Betti Erasmus Erasmus Asmus Frantz Francis Friedrich Frederick Fritz Gottfried Godfrey, Geoffrey Hannah Jean Ignatius Ignatius Natius, Natz Jacob Jacob, James Johanna Joan Johannes John Hans, Haensel, Jack Jonas Jonah Jost, Justus Yost, Justus Karl, Carl Charles Kezia Kezia Cassie Kuhnrat Conrad Kunz Ludwig Lewis, Louis Magdalena Magdalene, Madeleine,Lena, Molly Margaretha Margaret Peggy,Maggie,Rebecca Maria Mary Polly, Molly Matthaeus, Matthias Matthew Mat, Teis, Thebus Nathanael Nathaniel, Nathan Nat, Thaniel Nicolaus Nicholas Nickel, Claus Rebecca Rebecca Becky, Margaret Salome Salome Sally, Sarah Sarah Sarah Sally Sebastian Sebastian Bastian Sem Shem Ulrich Ullery, Eldridge Valentin Valentine Felty Veit Vitus Verena Verena Frena, Franey Wilhelm William Bill

I have just subscribed to this list. I am H. Michael McTeer and descend from William and Hannah (Edwards) Monroe, with my line eventually ending in Wirt County. Thanks.

Hi, I am new to the list and this is the family that I am researching. Is anyone else doing this same family? John SHAVER, b. 1745/46 Germany. He married Elizabeth PENCE on July 19, 1784 in Shenandoah County, Virginia. He died before May 1, 1851 in Boone County, Kentucky. He lived to be 105 yrs. old. Their children were; 1.) Betsy (Elizabeth), m. Abraham ANDERSON on Nov. 10, 1814, Boone Co. Ky. 2.)Sarah (Sally), m. John HELM on Oct.15, 1818, Boone Co., Ky. 3.) Mary Louise(Polly), b. December 19. 1789 in Madison Co., Virginia, m. Silas CRISLER, Sept. 29, 1808 in Boone Co., Ky. d. Dec. 2, 1851 in Illinois. 4.) Catherine(Kitty),b. 1790, m. Joseph WAYLAND on June 21,1812, d. before 1831 5.) George Washington SHAVER, m. Elizabeth DIAL on August 17, 1808, d. March 18, 1869 in New London Ralls, Co. Missouri. 6.) Jennetta, b.November 10, 1806 in Boone Co.,Ky., m.Elias STRICKLER COFFMAN on Dec. 31, 1829 in Boone Co.Ky, d. November 12, 1885 in Beloit Kansas 7.) Maria, b. 1807 in Boone Co.Ky., m. Robert GANT in 1818, d. August 22, 1845 in Randolph Co.Illinois 8. Alfred SHAVER who died at the age of 21. Catherine and Joseph WAYLAND'S children were, Richard, John, Lucy, George Washington, Finks, and Malinda who married Thomas Underhill on August 3, 1843 in Boone County, Ky. -- Dan and Robyn Asimus Golden, CO 80403 mailto:[email protected]

Polly was a common nickname ... from Mary to Paula to Paulette, to Paloma .... Joan Schmidt

Polly was commonly used for Mary, sometimes Sarah, and once in a while Margaret. Louie -----Original Message----- From: Hawley Woolschlager [SMTP:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 1999 2:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: re:nicknane, Polly Hi list, Does anyone know if Polly was commonly used as a nickname for any other specific name? Laura ==== OLD-FREDERICK-CO-VA Mailing List ==== Visit the Frederick County,VA USGenWeb Home Page! http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafreder/frederic.htm

I am looking for information about the Connell family. Some sources place them in the northern Shenandoah valley in the late 1730s. I have gone through a number of sources at Handley and can't find any mention of them here, however, Pennyslvania has them founding a town up there (Connellsville) and lists them from this area! Several sources my father has found mention the "Connell farm, north of Winchester and west of the pike". Anyone have any information on this?

Mary was the real name, "Polly" was the nickname...the nickname for Margaret was "Peggy" and the nickname for Sarah was "Sally".....hope this helps! Jan Lund -----Original Message----- From: Hawley Woolschlager <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, March 23, 1999 11:02 AM Subject: re:nicknane, Polly >Hi list, >Does anyone know if Polly was commonly used as a nickname for any other >specific name? >Laura > >______________________________

Since the subject of nicknames came up, can anyone tell me what the name Dicey is a nickname for? Thanks. Ruby Louis

Hi, I am new to the list, I am looking for anyone that is researching the Shaver/Shavour line. I have a John Shaver born 145/46 Germany, he married Elizabeth Pence on July 19, 1784 in Shenandoah County, Va. He died in 1851 in Boone County, Ky. I think he might have been a Mennonite or Baptist. Robyn -- Dan and Robyn Asimus Golden, CO 80403 mailto:[email protected]

I went to school with two girls whose nickname was Polly. In both instances their actual first name was Paulette. Ellen ---------- > From: Hawley Woolschlager <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: re:nicknane, Polly > Date: Tuesday, March 23, 1999 2:02 PM > > Hi list, > Does anyone know if Polly was commonly used as a nickname for any other > specific name? > Laura > > > ==== OLD-FREDERICK-CO-VA Mailing List ==== > Visit the Frederick County,VA USGenWeb Home Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafreder/frederic.htm >

Hi list, Does anyone know if Polly was commonly used as a nickname for any other specific name? Laura