One other note on Ann Wright. She was born 29Jan1725 in Chester County, PA. Lisa Check out my website at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/7502/index.html -----Original Message----- From: Pam Wilson <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, April 11, 1999 9:24 AM Subject: Re: McCool Ancestry >I'm also interested in learning about the McCool family ancestry. I'm >descended from James and Ann McCool's daughter Mary "Polly" McCool >(1744-1816), who married Joseph BABB in Frederick County on 17 Sept 1761 >and moved to Laurens Co, SC about 1767. > >Can any of you tell me more about the migration route from Frederick >County to SC? I seem to have a number of families that came to Frederick >County from various places (some, like the Babbs and related families, >from New England via Delaware to Frederick Co; others from >Northumberland Co, VA to Frederick...) and then hastened to the central >SC area. > >Pam Wilson >[email protected] or [email protected] > > >==== OLD-FREDERICK-CO-VA Mailing List ==== >Visit the Frederick County,VA USGenWeb Home Page! >http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafreder/frederic.htm >Visit the Frederick County USGenWeb Archives! >http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/va/frederic.htm > >

Pam, I don't have as much info on James McCool as I have on his wife Ann, but thought some of this might be of some help to you. According to what I've found, Ann Wright, daughers of James and Mary Wright, married James McCool, who died in 1751. She had 5 children with McCool. Mary b. 1743, John b. 1745, James, Jr. b. 1747, Martha b. 1749, and Gabriel b. 1751. Ann then married Thomas Pugh, b. 16Apr 1731/2 and d. 1789. Thomas and Ann had 7 children. Thomas and Ann were Quakers, so much of my info comes from those records. They moved to Newberry Co., SC about 1769, then moved back to Frederick Co., VA in 1777. Evidently at least Gabriel stayed in SC, as in the minutes of the Bush Creek Monthly Meeting, it mentions Gabriel McCool going to VA to visit his mother Ann. That was in 1798. Ann's will was proved in Frederick Co., VA in May 1801. The children of Ann and Thomas Pugh were: Sarah b. 8Apr1758 m. Evan Rogers, Jr. Lydia b. 16Mar1767 Jane or Jean b. ? Alice b. 10July1754 Elizabeth 'Betty' b. 6Spet 1755 m. John Jay in SC, later moved to Ohio by 1810 Ann b. 26July1764 m. Daniel Dillon and moved to Ohio by 1810 Rachel b. 16Feb1770 m. Michael Jenkins. Hope this is of some help. Lisa Craven Check out my website at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/7502/index.html -----Original Message----- From: Pam Wilson <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, April 11, 1999 9:24 AM Subject: Re: McCool Ancestry >I'm also interested in learning about the McCool family ancestry. I'm >descended from James and Ann McCool's daughter Mary "Polly" McCool >(1744-1816), who married Joseph BABB in Frederick County on 17 Sept 1761 >and moved to Laurens Co, SC about 1767. > >Can any of you tell me more about the migration route from Frederick >County to SC? I seem to have a number of families that came to Frederick >County from various places (some, like the Babbs and related families, >from New England via Delaware to Frederick Co; others from >Northumberland Co, VA to Frederick...) and then hastened to the central >SC area. > >Pam Wilson >[email protected] or [email protected] > > >==== OLD-FREDERICK-CO-VA Mailing List ==== >Visit the Frederick County,VA USGenWeb Home Page! >http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafreder/frederic.htm >Visit the Frederick County USGenWeb Archives! >http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/va/frederic.htm > >

Hello, I'm relatively new to the Virginia email lists. I've signed up to several lists, as are many of you I'm sure. That being the case, I apologize in advance to those of you who will be getting duplicates. We have concentrated our search primarily in Patrick and Giles Counties because our earliest known ancestor, John (Jr.) was married in Patrick and lived there after marriage. Many of the subsequent generations lived in Giles County. Considering the many boundary changes that have occurred over the years, and the fact that John (Jr.?) may not have originally been from Patrick County, we thought it might be necessary to expand our queries as we haven't been having any success in verifying any of John (Jr.s?) ancestors. John's parents are believed to have been John Clark Sr. and Sarah or Susannah, last name unknown. John may have had a sister named Elizabeth born n the 1770's and a brother named William also born in the 1770's. Listed below is John (Jr's?) children and their spouses. John Clark (Jr.?) born abt 1790 & Elizabeth Wright born abt mid 1790's Patrick County Va. CHILDREN OF JOHN (JR.?) & ELIZABETH all born abt.1810 thru early 1830's Patrick County Martha Clark & Samuel Jarmon Stone Sarah Clark & Samuel C. Ingram Roshona Clark & Lewis G. Martin Elizabeth Clark & James Bartee Andrew Jackson Clark & Martha Stone and Melinda Spencer German James (W) Clark and Frances Jane Law Robert Clark John Randolph Clark & Sara Jane Dodson Pleasant J. Clark Nancy Clark & Wilson/William T. Harris Mary A. Clark More recent generation in Giles County-1870's to 1970's. Andrew Jackson Clark & Mary Elizabeth Melvin Andrew was the son of German/Jerman/Jarmon James W. Clark CHILDREN OF ANDREW & MARY Sue V. Clark Franklin German Clark & Elizabeth Sue Kirk Mary Elizabeth Clark & John Frazier Sarah Jane Clark & John Vance Lennie Edward Clark & Charlie Boone Pannell Ramona Rosalee Clark & Clarence Wheeler Charles Jackson Clark & Romerta Frazier Leona E. Clark & Ed Gearheart William Henry Clark & Virginia May Parcell also William Henry Clark & Delia Blankenship also Virginia May Parcell & (Leon?) Perkins James W. Clark Robert Raymond Reynolds Clark (aka John) & Myrtle Isabella Carden Booker Burwell Clark & Nancy Elizabeth Altice also Booker Burwell Clark & Maude McNabb Crowell Hubert Hale Clark Sr. & Mary Jane Clark Ida C. Clark & Robert William Bowles Sr. possible unknown child (stillborn?) Lilly Rowland Clark & Bernard King Wysong also Lilly Rowland Clark & William Vance possible unknown child (stillborn?) We're also trying to find info on Clarks who moved to Jonesboro Tenn. Henry Edward Clark & Sally Elizabeth Cox Wright CHILDREN Ada Berth Clark & Calvin Matchett Cleveland Clark & Sally Elizabeth Cox Steveland Clark (twin) Hugh Clark Wilson Clark Opie C. Clark NOTE: Henry Edward Clark was the son of John Randolph Clark & Sara Jane Dodson. We would appreciate any information anyone can provide on any of these Clarks and related families. Thanks, Bill and Cindy

I'm also interested in learning about the McCool family ancestry. I'm descended from James and Ann McCool's daughter Mary "Polly" McCool (1744-1816), who married Joseph BABB in Frederick County on 17 Sept 1761 and moved to Laurens Co, SC about 1767. Can any of you tell me more about the migration route from Frederick County to SC? I seem to have a number of families that came to Frederick County from various places (some, like the Babbs and related families, from New England via Delaware to Frederick Co; others from Northumberland Co, VA to Frederick...) and then hastened to the central SC area. Pam Wilson [email protected] or [email protected]

I am researching James McCool, born 1709 in Ireland, came to the U.S., married Ann Wright (daughter of James Wright) and they lived in Opequan Creek around 1743. James died 2/9/1751, 6 months before the birth of his youngest son, Gabriel. I am trying to find out who his parents were. Please let me know if you have any information. Thank you so much. CJBarretta

Judy & List I have a delemnia I hope you can help me with. I keep getting references from researchers that say a person died and left a will. The fun is I can not find this data?? YOU have a Jefferson Co will book, Do you have a JOHN HUFFMAN dcd about 1823 listed. or somewhere between 1815 to 1825.?? I have tried some areas for records but I had no results. This JOHN HUFFMAN was in Westmoreland Co mid 1770's and later it was called George Township Fayette Co. So I am told.. I am not sure of WEstmorelands townships yet in early days.. This JOhn was the brother of Henry Huffman from Berkeley VA, so stated in Henry's land grant in WAshington Co PA 1780's. This JOhn had major land argument with brother George ( wife Anne ).. Court data. After the court hearings, records and family letters say he went back to his old home...?? Berkeley, Hampshire, Old Frederick Co area... Henry was at Peaked Mt at one point in time ..As was George... So you can see my confused reason for, unkown for sure , where died. Appreciate any help Thankyou in advance.... [email protected]

Susie, > I have a delemnia I hope you can help me with. I keep getting references >from researchers that say a person died and left a will. This is just a wild shot in the dark but I have found myself in a similiar situation and this was what I ultimately learned and thus my advice to you. Find out from the informant what the source of the information may have been. If it turns out, as it was in my case, that the source is from the IGI, the problem stems from a misunderstanding of what the symbol "w" stands for in the event column. "W" does mean, in brief, "will" but it is used to cover just about any probate document, including court cases that stem from the probating of an intestate estate. Thus the IGI lists the children of John Romine of Loudoun Co as being named in a "will" but there is none. The names are actually learned from the lawsuits that developed from the probate of the estate of John's father, Peter. Some people, looking for a will of a John Romine, find the will of my John Romine in Frederick and have then concluded that the Frederick Co John is the same individual as the Loudoun Co John. They are not but it has caused an endless amount of confusion. So you may be looking a similiar case where the information is not actually in a will but in a law suit somewhere and there is no actual will. So...again, track the idea that there is a will to the source reference for that will and see if it might be an IGI reference. Good luck. Renee L. Dauven

This may be old hat to many family researchers but thought it might help some who are just getting started. If one doesn't have the luxury of a family bible, finding information on marriage dates and wives' names can be a real brick wall. Marriages, especially in frontier areas, might be listed under minister returns from circuit riding ministers, recorded in the county's Marriage Registers, in Church records, or in Marriage Bond or Fee Books in a given county. Sometimes marriages (or at least the names of husbands and wives) are also found in county Order, Minute, Wills, and Deed Books, especially when land is sold and the wife is required to officially agree to the sale. Military pension records may also include information on marriages, especially by widows claiming the pension. Census records are also good in the mid-19th century. There are numerous abstracts of county record books which may list the couple. In one case I found same couple listed in one county marriage register (Berkeley) and in another county's bond books (Frederick) ! In some cases these abstracts prove incorrect (typos, misspellings, etc.) so it's always best to use them as a lead to original document. An interesting introduction to a book by Guy Keesecker "Marriage Records of Berkeley Co. VA 1781-1854 (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co, 1983) explains basis of marriage records found in various county court houses. Paraphrasing from his notes: In Colonial Va, laws of matrimony followed English practices (with some exceptions) which required minister to have license from Governor or the announcement of banns by local minister and purchase of license. Banns to be published "three severall Sundays or holy-days in the time of devyne service in the parish churches where the sayd persons dwell...." Licenses ranted at a fee of 200 lbs of tobacco or 20 shillings to Governor, 50 lbs., to clerk (of court), 40 lbs. to "secretarie"; 200 lbs. or 20 shillings to minister marrying with license, if by banns, 50 lbs. or 5 sh. If minister married contrary to law, he would be fined "tenn thousand pounds of tobacco". He was also fined if he married indentured servants without certificate from their masters. Any marriage made by any other than a minister (probably had to be Anglican) was refuted as null and children borne of said marriage illegitimate. If girl 12-16 married without consent of parents or guardian and without banns her lawful inheritance would descend to next of kin and her children disinherited. Laws were moderated in 18th century with arrival of other Europeans with different customs and religions as well as impact of frontier conditions. Distances from court and lack of qualified ministers or lawyers required change in laws. Circuit riders became common on frontier. In 1775, a marriage tax of 40 shillings along with bond as security, to be paid. Later (no year given), an act was passed that due to the lack of duly authorized clergymen in "remote parts of the Commonwealth", the Court was empowered to "nominate so many sober and discreet laymen" to perform marriages. They were required to take oath of allegiance to the state, and get a license to perform rites of matrimony "according to the forms and customs of the church of which he is a reputed member...." Publication of banns were to be made in "three several days, and not in less time than two weeks, in open public asssemblies, convened for religious worhip or other lawful purposes, within the bounds of the respective congregation or militia companies, in which the parties to be married severally reside...." The eldest (? does this mean most senior?) magistrate of the County was empowered to grant marriage bonds. This fell to Clerk and secretary of Court to list names of marriage participants, their surety and tenor of the bond in the county records. Up to 1805, £50 was required as security. After that, amount changed to $150. The suretor was bound for the sum of the security and "if there is no lawful cause to obstruct the said marriage, then the above obligation to be void...." If one or both participants were under usual age (whatever that was!), and were refused a bond, the parent or guardian was required to send letter sanctioning marriage. Letter was sent to Clerk of Court for recording. Sometimes, clerks of neighboring counties granted certificates (apparently for the fee), resulting in new law stating that only clerks of the county wherein the maid, her parents or guardian resided were allowed to grant licenses. Keesecker cites Hening's Statutes as his source. He doesn't say when surety bonds were dropped as requirement.

Hi, Folks, This is some genealogy news, etc. http://newsnet.byu.edu/noframes/Genealogy.cfm Flo.

Hi-- Does anyone have any information about any Bartley family in the Old Frederick Co. area during the time between 1750 and 1800? They were supposed to have been in this area, but later were in Albemarle Co., VA. At one time, they may have also been in Lancaster Co., PA. Specifically, I am looking for a George Bartley, who married a Mary. I will be grateful for any clues, hints, or leads. Thank you, Lillian Stevenson

I have a copy of volumns I and II of "LEICHLEITER & VARIANTS". Volumn II was published in 1986, but I bought my copies last year. Publisher's name and address will be furnished upon request. Don [email protected]

The VANCE surname is a new area of research for me. I only have two names and am looking for anyone with connections, suggestions or leads of any kind. The two names I have are: Hester VANCE, married Walter SHIRLEY, Jr. of Jefferson County about 1752. Her Father was James VANCE of Frederick County (NFI) Jay French [email protected]

Rick and the list, There are two books on the Lichliter family that I have seen (but I don't know where you might find them). They might help solve your puzzle -- 'Lichliter and Variants' and 'Lichliter and Variants, Volume 2'. I am not sure which of the many spellings of the name they used in the title, but you should be able to locate it. I think the 2nd volume was published about 5 or 6 years ago and the first about 10 years ago, but I'm not sure. Good luck. Ellen

Hello, I would like to find out the relationship between the family of Adam LICHLITER Sr. and the family of Cornelius B. LICHLITER, if any. Corrections to any of my info are welcome too. Adam LICHLITER Sr. (will written 8 Dec 1826 in Shenandoah Co VA, proven 8 Jan 1827) married to Cathrine --?--. Adam had a brother John LICHLITER (as per Adam's will), and I think he had a brother Jacob LICHLITER (there are numerous marriages of children of Jacob Lichliter at the same times as those marriages of Adam's children). Adam Sr. and Cathrine had children: 1. Catherine LICHLITER married 15 Apr 1805 to Henry SIEBERT. 2. Barbara LICHLITER married 29 Jan 1816 to John KENESLEY/KNISELY. 3. Magdalen LICHLITER married 4 Aug 1823 in Shenandoah Co VA to Solomon SMITH. 4. Henry LICHLITER. 5. Adam LICHLITER Jr. married 28 Oct 1816 in Shenandoah Co VA to Catherine KELLER (b. 8 Nov 1792). 6. Conrad LICHLITER married 21 Apr 1804 in Shenandoah Co VA to Sarah HARMAN. 7. Jacob LICHLITER married 7 Oct 1811 in Shenandoah Co VA to Lydia SHANK. 8. Daniel LICHLITER married 19 Nov 1817 in Shenandoah Co VA to Elizabeth SHIPE. 9. David LICHLITER married 5 Aug 1822 in Shenandoah Co VA to Cathrine CLEM. Elizabeth F. PENCE (b. 7 Aug 1837, d. 28 Feb 1920) married first 17 Jun 1857 in Shenandoah Co VA to John BOWERS, married second 16 May 1872 to Cornelius B. LICHLITER (b. ca 1843). John was killed in the War Between the States. Cornelius was the son of John LICHLITER and Mary Ann --?--. Cornelius enlisted 6 Aug 1861 as a private in Co. C, 136th Virginia Militia (Confederate). He enlisted 19 Feb 1862 in Martinsburg, Virginia as a private in Co. K, 7th Virginia Cav. (CSA). He was paroled 26 Apr 1865 by Federal forces in Winchester, Virginia. Elizabeth is buried in the Lichliter Cemetery, Detrick, Shenandoah Co VA. Children of Elizabeth and Cornelius: 1. Kirby L. LICHLITER (b. ca 1873, d. ca 1958) married 26 Dec 1896 to Daisy C. BOOTH. Kirby is buried in Peters Cemetery, Ft. Valley, Virginia. 2. Marion LICHLITER (b. ca 1875, d. ca 1941) married 12 Apr 1896 to Laura RITENOUR (b. ca 1877, d. ca 1965). Marion and Laura are buried in the Detrick Cemetery, Ft. Valley, Virginia. I have a lot of other Lichliter (and varied spellings) marriages listed from "Shenandoah County Marriage Bonds, 1772-1853" by Ashby to share. Thank you, Rick [email protected] (there is an underscore between GRA and JRC)

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Hi All, Ancestry.com has an 1864 U.S. Army map of the Shenandoah Valley from Strasburg to Harper's Ferry at http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry/maps/Shenandoah_stras.gif Phil

Iam upgrading a previous posting due to some new informaton i have found in a 1870 census and personal letters. what ian looking for is a decendant or some information of same. Kelly family of Millwood Va. JOHN KELLY B 1821 LANCASTER CO PA. D,1865 MILLWOOD VA. MARY FRANCES KELLY BORN 1834 WINCHESTER VA. D;1875 MILLWOOD VA. WILLIAM C. B. KELLY B;1857 MILLWOOD VA D; 1937 BERRYVILLE VA. ELIZABETH BORN 1858 MILLWOOD VA.?????? MARY B. BORN 1859 MILLWOOD VA.??????? JEFFERSON DAVIS BORN 1860 DIED CHARLESTON WV.1837 ENIS B. 1863 MILLWOOD VA. ??????? MAGGIE J. BORN 1865 MILLWOOD VA.????? thank you paul kelly [email protected]

I am trying to confirm the marriage of Elizabeth SHIRLEY to Samuel FRENCH. They both lived in what is now Jefferson County West Virginia. At the time the wedding would have taken place it would have been Berkeley County, VA. Elizabeth was the daughter of Walter SHIRLEY of the same area and the time frame for the wedding would have been the the 1780s to the early 1790s. I also believe they moved to western Ohio sometime after 1820. Does anyone have any information on them. Thanks for any help. Jay French

Good Morning, Would anyone have a copy of the 1810 census for Frederick County. I am wondering the ages of the people living in the household of Benjamin Harper. Thanks for any help. I really appreciate this. Sincerely, Judy Woehrle [email protected]

Sandy, I never saw the term "inmate" used that way. A yeoman is a farmer. Louie -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [SMTP:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, March 27, 1999 12:20 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Definition Dear Old Fred's. Can anyone tell me the definition of the term "inmate" as pertains to a persons place in society in the 1600s. It would be used like the term "yeoman". For that matter what does the term Yeoman mean? Thanks. Sandy ==== OLD-FREDERICK-CO-VA Mailing List ==== Happy 2nd Birthday VAGenWeb Project! Visit the Frederick County USGenWeb Archives! http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/va/frederic.htm