This may digress a little, but have patience. In the book "History of the Valley of Virginia" by Samuel Kercheval. Winchester: Samuel H. Davis. 1833, the following is quoted from page 83. "The Baptist were not among our earliest immigrants. About fourteen or fifteen families of that persuasion migrated from the state of New-Jersey, and settled probably in 1742 or 1743 in the vicinity of what is now called Gerardstown, in the County of Berkeley.* Mr. Semple, in his history of the Virginia Baptists, states, that in the year 1754, Mr. Stearns, a preacher of this sect, with several others, removed from New England. "They halted first at Opequon, in Berkeley county, Virginia, where he formed a Baptist church under the care of the Rev. John Gerard." This was probably the first Baptist church founded west of the Blue ridge in our state. It is said that the spot where Tuscarora meeting-house now stands, in the county of Berkeley, is the first place where the gospel was publicly preached and divine service performed west of the Blue ridge.+ This was and still remains a Presbyterian edifice." Footnotes: "*Mr. McCowen, an aged and respectable citizen of the neighborhoold, communicated this fact to the author." "+This information was communicated to the author by a highly respectable old lady, of the Presbyterian church, in the county of Berkeley. She also stated, that, in addition to the general tradition, she had lately heard the venerable and reverend Dr. Matthews assert the fact. Mr. Mayers, now in his 87th year, born and raised on the Potomac, in Berkeley, stated his opinion to the author, that there was a house erected for public worshop at the Falling Water about the same time that the Tuscarora meeting-house was built. Both these churches are now under the pastoral care of the Rev. James M. Brown." The above info is from the original version of this book, published in 1833. There have been four or five editions of this book. The Fourth Edition, printed in 1994, has similar information on page 63. Hope this helps. Jack R. Louthan ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 21, 1999 2:59 PM Subject: Re: Re: Meeting house > Hi, > > Was Hopewell Meeting House a Quaker congregation or a Presbyterian one? > Or were there two Meeting Houses named Hopewell? > It is my understanding that up until the time of the Am. Rev., all non- > Anglican denominations had to be called a "meeting house". Only the > Anglicans could call their churches "Churches" > > This is important to me, because I'm trying to find out information on > aHopewell Presbyterian Meeting House near the Opequon. > > Mitzie wrote: > >Wm. Hoge, Sr., owned property near Kernstown on a branch of > >the Opequon named Hogue Run. In 1745 he sold two acres to > >a group of men (some of whom were Quaker ...at one time) > >near the Presbyterian Meeting House > Was this Meeting House also named Hopewell? > > Jack's post refers to a Hopewell Quaker Meeting. > I would appreciate it, if someone would enlighten me about this. > Thanks, > Ann > > > ==== OLD-FREDERICK-CO-VA Mailing List ==== > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >

To my knowledge, there is only one Quaker "Hopewell MM". I am not an expert on Quakers though. Other religions may have named their Meetings "Hopewell", I don't know. The following is from Chapter XIII, Friends of Eminence, page 179 in the book: "Of the dissenting sects, the Presbyterians were probably the first to effect a church organization after the setting up of Hopewell; and, although they enjoyed the services of visiting ministers at considerable intervals, Dr. Graham says ("Planting of Presbyterianism in the Northern Neck of Virginia," page 26) that no pastor was regularly settled among them until 1754, when the Rev. John Hoge became the pastor of the Opequon Church at Kernstown, and supplied them at intervals until 1772. No other Presbyterian pastor came to be settled in the lower Valley until the Rev. Hugh Vance was installed at Tuscarora in 1772." For info, the Rev. John Hoge was the grandson of William Hoge Sr., mentioned in my first email. Jack R. Louthan ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 21, 1999 2:59 PM Subject: Re: Re: Meeting house > Hi, > > Was Hopewell Meeting House a Quaker congregation or a Presbyterian one? > Or were there two Meeting Houses named Hopewell? > It is my understanding that up until the time of the Am. Rev., all non- > Anglican denominations had to be called a "meeting house". Only the > Anglicans could call their churches "Churches" > > This is important to me, because I'm trying to find out information on > aHopewell Presbyterian Meeting House near the Opequon. > > Mitzie wrote: > >Wm. Hoge, Sr., owned property near Kernstown on a branch of > >the Opequon named Hogue Run. In 1745 he sold two acres to > >a group of men (some of whom were Quaker ...at one time) > >near the Presbyterian Meeting House > Was this Meeting House also named Hopewell? > > Jack's post refers to a Hopewell Quaker Meeting. > I would appreciate it, if someone would enlighten me about this. > Thanks, > Ann > > > ==== OLD-FREDERICK-CO-VA Mailing List ==== > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >

Hi Folks, Many thanks for your answers to my query. Now does someone know the origin of the name "Hopewell"? Thanks again, Ann

In a message dated 6/21/99 3:04:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << [email protected] >> Yes, Hopewell MM (Monthly meeting) is a Quaker Church. It is still very active - I visited it just two weeks ago. It has a well-kept cemetery attached to it. It is located in Clearcreek which is just about 6 miles north of Winchester on Highway 11 which parallels Highway 81. It is about a half-mile from Hwy 11. Quakers seemed to name their churches after creeks (e.g. Opequan in Winchester, Tuscarora in Martinsburg, WV) and call them by both the river name and another name. There is probably a Hopewell Presbyterian Church as well. Elizabeth Branstead Atlanta, GA

Hi, Was Hopewell Meeting House a Quaker congregation or a Presbyterian one? Or were there two Meeting Houses named Hopewell? It is my understanding that up until the time of the Am. Rev., all non- Anglican denominations had to be called a "meeting house". Only the Anglicans could call their churches "Churches" This is important to me, because I'm trying to find out information on aHopewell Presbyterian Meeting House near the Opequon. Mitzie wrote: >Wm. Hoge, Sr., owned property near Kernstown on a branch of >the Opequon named Hogue Run. In 1745 he sold two acres to >a group of men (some of whom were Quaker ...at one time) >near the Presbyterian Meeting House Was this Meeting House also named Hopewell? Jack's post refers to a Hopewell Quaker Meeting. I would appreciate it, if someone would enlighten me about this. Thanks, Ann

Mitzie: Check this book: "Hopewell Frienbds History 1734-1934 Frederick County, Virginia" Records of Hopewell Monthly Meetings and Meetings Reporting to Hopewell. Compiled from Official Records and Published by a Joint Committee of Hopewell Friends, Assisted by John W. Wayland. Originally Published Strasburg, Virginia 1936. Reprinted with Permission of the Hopewell Monthly Meeting - Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, 1875, 1993. Particulary look on page 25 of "Chapter II The Fathers of the Colony." "William Hogg, 411 acres. This land lies just southwest of the village of Kernstown and about four miles from Winchester. William Hogg, Hoge, or Hogue, as the name was variously spelled, was living in Chester County, Pa., where he was taxed in East Nottingham Township from 1718 to 1730, after which year he removed to Virginia. His first wife was Barbara Hume, who was the mother of all his children. William Hoge died before August 8, 1749. On that day his will was filed and recorded in the Frederick County clerk's office, but was not probated. His widow, Mary Hoge, declined accepting the provisions thereof, and claimed her dower. The land came into the possession of the Rev. John Hoge, the heir-at-law, he being the eldest son of his father John, who in turn was the eldest son of William. On this land stands the olf Opequon Presbyterian Church, organized by the Rev. James Anderson in 1737, and which, except for one or two short periods, has served that denomination to this day. In 1745 William Hoge conveyed to the trustees of this church two acres for a burying ground, but did not as frequently stated, donate the church lot, which pas purchased in 1795 by the trustees from Adam Kern and Christina, his wife, who at that time owned most of this old patent. On the site of the original home of William Hoge stands the large mansion house, now the home of Mrs. Hardy Grim, and which was built about 1850 by Stephen Pritchard, whose family owned the tract for many years. In the graveyard west of this house are buried many of the Hoges and Pritchards. William and Barbara Hoge left many descendants, among whom may be found ministers, college presidents, statesmen, and teachers, many of whom became nationally known. The minute books of Hopewell Monthly Meeting and the Frederick County records make frequent reference to his sons John, William Jr., Alexander, James, and George." Hope this helps Jack R. Louthan [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: Preston, Madaline H <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 20, 1999 7:10 PM Subject: Meeting house Wm. Hoge, Sr., owned property near Kernstown on a branch of the Opequon named Hogue Run. In 1745 he sold two acres to a group of men (some of whom were Quaker ...at one time) near the Presbyterian Meeting House "where it now stands" for a burying place, ...and enough timber to repair the Meeting House." If anyone has any knowledge about this meeting house or an existing gravesite that may have been connected with it, would you please help me out? Thank you, Mitzie -- Preston, Madaline H [email protected]

Seeking to share information about ZEBULON and Jane THARP who lived south of Winchester, VA in the mid-to-late 1700s (near the intersection of Cooked Run and Stephens Run). Zebulon's will is on file in the Frederick County Courthouse (dated August 1, 1780). Zebulon's will names a son ANDREW. The will indicates this Andrew had a daughter Elizabeth, who was to receive Andrew's bequeathed property upon Andrew's demise. Other sons named in Zebulon's will include Isaac, Joshua and John, Benjamin and Zebulon. Zebulon (who married Jane) was born in Middlesex County (Piscataway/Woodsbridge) NJ, son of Thomas Tharp (the 3rd generation Thomas), according to a very detailed family chart given to me by Joan Tharp of California. My line of Tharps in Ohio begins with ISAAC Tharp, who married Magdelene SWISHER in Hardy County, VA (now WV), and moved to Licking County, Ohio in 1822. Isaac was son of JOHN and ELIZABETH Tharp. Elizabeth's will is on file in Hampshire County, dated 6/24/1843 and probated 8-28-1863. Isaac had a brother named Solomon who married Hannah RUCKMAN, and two sisters. Sister Ann married Caleb EVANS on 1-2-1826. A handwritten family tree shows that John Tharp's father was Andrew. Mike Tharp of Kansas City (who descends from Solomon, brother of my line Isaac), has original family documents, including a parchment paper that simply has the name Andrew Tharp, born the twelth day of March, 1727. Mike also has a document showing that Andrew pledged allegiance to the Common Wealth of Virginia on the 4th day of October, 1777. So.....I am trying to either prove or disprove that my line Andrew Tharp is son of Zebulon and Jane Tharp of Frederick County, Virginia. Other area surnames connected with the THARPs are EVANS, BEEM, SWISHER, STOVER.

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Hello Frederick County researchers, I have a CARTER mystery that I'm hoping somebody has run across before and will be able to help me out with. I've been trying to solve this forever, it seems. First, I'll give y'all the info I have on my line and then the problem. I have my CARTER line back to a Landon CARTER. He was born in 1826 in Tennessee (Carter Co, I assume). Landon died in 1896 in Carter County, TN. He was married three times: 1) Deborah ELLIS 01 Feb 1846 / 2) Elizabeth A Cameron 19 Jun 1866 / 3) Rebecca Garland 30 July 1877. All of these marriages took place in Carter Co, TN. Landon served in the 13th Regiment, TN Volunteer Cavalry, where he was Capt. of Company H, during the Civil War. Landon had five children, of which I will spare the names at this time for lack of relevance. Now, on to the mystery: In 1850, Landon is living in Carter Co, TN, with his wife and small child. Also living with him, is a Mary CARTER, aged 73 years (born ca. 1777) and born in PA. I presume this to be his mother. The mystery lies in finding his father. I had narrowed it down to a William Carter, for various reasons, but was unable to find any information in regards to William's past. This led me to contact the Carter County genealogist to see if she had any information. She knew who my Landon was right off the top of her head, and was quick to tell me that his father, William CARTER, is believed to have been a CARTY in Virginia. She stated that at some point in time, it is believed that William changed the family name from CARTY to CARTER, but that nobody has been able to prove this. In her notes, she had an abstract from Frederick County, Virginia, marriages which listed a William CARTY wed to Polly WEAVER 09 Nov 1799. Recently, I have begun to research Polly (Mary) WEAVER... both names in the marriage abstract from Virginia match correctly with the names of Landon's parents. I have discovered that the Polly (Mary) WEAVER, who married William CARTY, was born in PA around 1777. She is the daughter of Adam WEAVER. So, it is a safe conclusion that this marriage between William and Polly, is the marriage of Landon's parents. The mystery now lies in the last name of his father, William. I have run across a will from Frederick Co, VA, from a Benjamin CARTER. The will is dated 13 Dec 1795, and was proved 07 Apr 1796. This Benjamin CARTER was born ca. 1751 in VA, and as mentioned earlier, died in 1796 in Frederick Co, VA. Benjamin had the following male children: Joseph, William, Isaac, Benjamin Jr., James, Jonathan, David, & Edmund. In referring back to the marriages of Frederick Co, VA - all of these males were married in Frederick Co, shortly before or after 1800 - with the exception of Isaac and William. But, keep in mind, there was a William CARTY (the only CARTY marriage listed) in the records. It is my hypothesis, that this William CARTY is actually William CARTER. It is very possible, given the circumstances of the time, that his name was misspelled. I know what most of you are thinking, for I have heard it a million times - the name Landon belongs to the family line of John and Landon CARTER, of which the county of Carter, Tennessee, was named. Family lore has it, that we are descendants of this line - but I have been unable to make any connection - at least in Tennessee. If, William CARTY is actually William CARTER, then the line would connect to the line after which the county was named - just much further back than we had expected. I don't feel it is just a mere coincidence that William and Polly decided to name their child Landon. During that time period, the Carters were not a family rich in history, as they are now. I apologize for such a lengthy message, but I wanted to make sure that my story was understood. I thank you all in advance for your time and I hope that somebody, somewhere, can provide me some assistance. Best regards, Morgan H Courtney [email protected]

I had occasion to order and now have received Pension Record, #5529, for James Pearce. James was born 24 Mar 1748 but his place of birth is not specifically mentioned. >From the affidavit of son-in-law, Gibson: "Affiant further declares that he has always understood from the said Capt. James Pearce and his wife, Margaret (whose maiden name was Margaret Dungan) that they were married in the County of Frederick, State of Maryland, prior to the war of the revolution: and, from circumstances and the ages of their children he believes they were married in the year Seventeen hundred and seventy one - that the said James and Margaret were both residents of Berkley County, Virginia at the time of the marriage, but owing to the laws of that state prohibiting the issuance of marriage licenses to minors and the said Margaret being under age, they crossed the Potomac river and were married in Frederick County, State of Maryland". Frederick County, VA, Deed Book Series, Vol. 4 as abstracted by Amelia C. Gilreath: Bk 12, p. 686 - 24 Mar 1769 reflects that a James Pearce, Thos. Shepherd and Wm. Shepherd witnessed a deed between Wolford and Vandevear of a portion of property originally granted to Thomas Shepherd. Bk 12, p. 689 reflects that Thos. Swearingen, G. Neilly, George Myers and ISAAC PEAIRS, witnessed a deed 5 Apr 1769. Finding no other Pearces or like names, I checked for Dungan. Book 9, p. 293 - 7 Aug 1764 George Dungan, Jeremiah Dungan and Elisha Dungan witnessed a lease between Swearingen, attorney in fact, etc. (For those not familiar with Dungan, George is Margaret's grandfather, Jeremiah is Margaret's father, Elisha is her uncle). Book 9, pg. 491 - 21 Jul 1764 Thomas Shepherd sold several lots in the Town of Mechlenburgh in Frederick County to Jeremiah Dungan. Margaret would be about 9 years of age. I believe this is now in the area of present-day Shepherdtown, Jefferson County, WVA. >From Some Notes On Berkeley Springs, West Virginia by Katherine M Hunter and Bernard E Hunter, I find that listed as Original Purchasers of Lots, Town of Bath, 1777-1798 were Andrew Pearce and Daniel Pearce. I interested in locating clues to any of the above mentioned Pearces. Judy [email protected]

Hi Folks, Would someone possibly have a connection to anyone in the following outline? 1 Mr. Ellis PUGH b: August 1656 [ap Hugh] Garth, Gowen, Merion, Tyddyn y Garreg, Dolegelley, Merionethshire, Wales. d: 03 December 1718 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. . +Ms. Sina b: Abt. 1660 [Sina] m: Abt. 1675 Wales d: Bet. 1698-1760 . 2 Mr. John PUGH b: 16 December 1688 Chester Monthly Meeting, Chester County, Pennsylvania. ..... +Ms. Jane REES m: 08 March 1710/11 Chester Monthly Meeting, Chester County, Pennsylvania. ..... 3 Mr. John PUGH JR ......... +Ms. Sarah LITTLER b 1: 24 August 1721 East Nottingham Monthly Meeting, Cecil County, Maryland. b 2: August 1721 m: 07 October 1742 East Nottingham Monthly Meeting, Cecil County, Maryland. Father: Samuel LITTLER Mother: Ms. Rachel MINSHALL ........ 4 Mr. Joshua PUGH b: 25 June 1743 East Nottingham Monthly Meeting, Cecil County, Maryland. ............ +Ms. Hannah CHANDLER b: 17 April 1745 East Nottingham Monthly Meeting, Cecil County, Maryland. m 1: 19 December 1765 East Nottingham Monthly Meeting, Cecil County, Maryland. m 2: 19 December 1765 Father: Jacob CHANDLER Mother: Ms. Martha ............ 5 Mr. Jacob PUGH b: 07 June 1771 ................ +Ms. Elizabeth MORGAN b: Abt. 1786 m 1: 15 September 1798 m 2: 16 September 1798 ................ 6 Ms. Anna PUGH b 1: 20 September 1804 Hampshire Co, WV d: 07 October 1874 Gore District, Hampshire County, West Virginia .................... +William Day b: 11 February 1801 . 7 Ms. Harriett DAY b: Bet. 1825 - 1826 . 7 Mr. Alexander DAY b: 14 August 1827 Gore District, Hampshire County, WV ..... +Ms. Caroline SMOOTS b: 09 September 1830 Gore District, Hampshire County, WV m: 03 July 1855 d: 17 March 1882 Gore District, Hampshire County, WV . 7 Mr. Nimrod DAY b: Bet. 1829 - 1830 . 7 Mr. James DAY b: Bet. 1832 - 1833 . 7 Mr. Joseph DAY b: Bet. 1832 - 1834 . 7 Ms. Sarah DAY b: Bet. 1835 - 1836 . 7 Ms. Rebecca DAY b: Bet. 1837 - 1838 . 7 Mr. John DAY b: Bet. 1839 - 1840 . 7 Mr. Thomas DAY b: Bet. 1839 - 1840 . 7 Mr. Jonathan DAY b: 1843 d: 1906 Burial: Salem UM Church Cemetery, Slanesville, West Virginia. ..... +Ms. Mary Ann BETSON b: 1855 d: 1941 Burial: Salem UM Church Cemetery, Slanesville, West Virginia. Thanks, Flo. ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ Flo. Day <[email protected]> Discovering Family Histories Castleman_Day&Pugh_Northington_Vanderstyne <http://members.xoom.com/Northing/> - ------------------------------------------------------------- Get free personalized email from USA.com at http://mail.usa.com

Searching for information and parents of Edwin Pugh who was born October 8, 1830 in Virginia. He married Martha Ann Moose. At some time, they moved to Ohio where their children were born. Would appreciate any information you can give me. Thanks Virginia ginia

I am researching the following families and willing to share data. PONTIUS HANCOCK SAMUELS CHAMBERLAIN GREENBERRY Harry Pontius Virginia [email protected]

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------A0633110337099243A9E9191 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am seeking proof of a marriage between James Carter born c. 1790 d. 1/26/1864 in Clarke county. The marriage would have been while it was still Frederick county. They lived and died in the area of the Opequan creek. Best John --------------A0633110337099243A9E9191 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="carterjohn.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for John Carter Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="carterjohn.vcf" begin:vcard n:Carter;John x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:[email protected] fn:John Carter end:vcard --------------A0633110337099243A9E9191--

Hi: Just a note about the Archives Room--- Archives will be the only department open at Handley during the Renovation. Use Library Lane entrance Archives: Tue-Wed 1-5 Th-Sat 10-5 Phone 1=540-662-9041, ext 23 They will close later on, so it might be a good idea to call ahead. You might all try: (http://www.shentel.net/handley-library) Bill Miller in Winchester, Va -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, June 12, 1999 9:31 PM Subject: Archives, Handley Lib, Winchester, VA > >Hi Folks, > >Please pardon the spamming, but I thought everyone should be aware that it appears the library has begun its summer construction. It might be prudent to check with them before traveling any great distance. > >(There is a link on my homepage.) > >Flo. > > ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ > Flo. Day <[email protected]> > Discovering Family Histories > <http://members.xoom.com/Northing/> > >--------------------------------------------------------------- >Get free personalized email from USA.com at http://mail.usa.com > > >==== OLD-FREDERICK-CO-VA Mailing List ==== >Happy 2nd Birthday VAGenWeb Project! >Visit the Frederick County USGenWeb Archives! >http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/va/frederic.htm >

Hello, Freddie Listers, Below is a website thru the Library of Congress for American Memory, a site with lots of stuff, including clickable maps. Go to maps, then cities and towns, and then use the index for an aerial map of Winchester. You can zoom in. You might want to zoom in on the key in the corner to see what specific buildings are labeled. http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/finder.html No doubt you'll find other helpful maps and stuff. The railroad maps are also helpful. Some are pretty old and will show towns and villages from early times in the country. Becky _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com

Hi Folks, I would appreciate suggestions for "VA Genealogy Links - Important, and Local Frederick County and Winchester" to put on my web site. If I accumulate enough, I will make a separate page for them. Thanks for your help. Flo. ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ Flo. Day <[email protected]> Discovering Family Histories Castleman_Day_Northington_Vanderstyne(v.d.Woestijne) <http://members.xoom.com/Northing/> - ------------------------------------------------------------- Get free personalized email from USA.com at http://mail.usa.com

Hi Folks, Please pardon the spamming, but I thought everyone should be aware that it appears the library has begun its summer construction. It might be prudent to check with them before traveling any great distance. (There is a link on my homepage.) Flo. ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ Flo. Day <[email protected]> Discovering Family Histories <http://members.xoom.com/Northing/> - ------------------------------------------------------------- Get free personalized email from USA.com at http://mail.usa.com

Hello everyone: Thought I would write you a line to let you know that I have started a new website for the Wamsley's and their descendants. Surnames Tacy, Phares, Wamsley, Stalnaker, Robinson ect. you can view it at http://www.oe-pages.com/FAMILY/Homepages/evel I hope you find a relation or two. Eva Wamslely Loeffelbein

Hello........ Fellow List Members...... Back around the beginning of May, another list member wrote a post about a Samuel Ferguson who with his family and many other cousins moved to Southern OH..........in his post he made note that many of Ferguson's in that area descended from this family....... :-D I am wondering if that person who wrote that post is still a member of the list and would be able to get in contact with me.....would like to compare notes on what he knows of this line.......... :-D Rinda Lynn Ferguson -- Highland County, OH