There are also a lot of Shinn's around Concord, North Carolina. Don't know where they originated - my family married into them, but I have done no research. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kay or Darrell Groves" <kdwgroves@yahoo.com> To: <OLD-FREDERICK-CO-VA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 10:46 PM Subject: [OLD-FREDERICK-CO-VA] Was the name ever shortened to Shinn? > > The Shinn surname is quite common in Central WV. > remarksk <kskramer@wcoil.com> wrote:Would anyone have any history of the early > settlers of Back Creek VA. I am looking for > any information for a Teter Barnes and possibility > John Shinnabarry, or a spelling close to Shinnabarry. > The name has been badly spelled over the years. > The family should have been in this area in the 1760/1780 > time period. > Hope someone can help with my Brick Wall. > Thanks > Sue > > > ==== OLD-FREDERICK-CO-VA Mailing List ==== > OLD FREDERICK-CO-VA LIST ADMINISTRATOR > Old-Frederick-Co-Va-Admin@RootsWeb.com > Glenn Belcher > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > >From the Hills of West Virginia to Lake Erie's Shore. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now > > > ==== OLD-FREDERICK-CO-VA Mailing List ==== > OLD-FREDERICK-CO-VA UNSUBSCRIPTION DIRECTIONS > Old-Frederick-Co-Va-L-request@RootsWeb.com UNSUBSCRIBE (in message) > Old-Frederick-Co-Va-D-request@RootsWeb.com UNSUBSCRIBE (in message) > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I have driven US 50 from Washington, DC, to Winchester, VA. That is truly a beautiful drive, such beautiful scenry...I would certainly like to go back when I had longer to visit. Eleanor ----- Original Message ----- From: Kay or Darrell Groves <kdwgroves@yahoo.com> To: <OLD-FREDERICK-CO-VA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 9:48 PM Subject: Re: [OLD-FREDERICK-CO-VA] Marquis > > Drive old US 50 from Winchester to Red House Maryland. At Red House you can continue on US 50 to Parkersburg, WV and the Ohio River. Turn North and West an you go to Oakland, MD and if you continue West you hit the Cheat River which runs into the Monongahela River which becomes one third of the Ohio River at Pittsburg, PA. Follow Keyser's Ridge North until you hit the National Road or US 40 an go West and you hit the Ohio River at Wheeling, WV You could also float down the Yough. River and do the same thing. The oldest communities in the area were in what is now southern PA. but was Western Virginia then. Others migrated west from Cumberland, MD. > "Maria E. Brower" <mbrower@nccn.net> wrote:This is just a guess as to which county in PA the Marquis went but my > Washington White and wife Mary Strahan/Strahin White moved to Greene County > PA after 1817 when thier first child was born. They were first in Preston > Co VA/WV and there was a Enoch Calvert who I think also came from Frederick > County, VA and I believe was kin to Washington White. His mother was Mary > Calvert (brother Jesse Calvert stayed in Frederick Co, VA) Lots of the > names I have seen in Frederick appear in Greene County. You should borrow a > history of Greene County via Inter-library loan. I have been trying to > find the group that Washington White migrated west with. > Maria E. Brower, Grass Valley, CA > > > >Re: Marquis ..... Moses Bonham & his Ann Marquis his wife moved to western > >PA, anyone know which county? Why would they move there, were Marquis > >relatives in western PA, or moving along with them? Some of Moses Bonham's > >relatives settled in eastern OH, near PA (Belmont co., OH). Aaron Bonham > >(father of Moses, I think) purchased some items at a Marquis estate sale > >early 1800's. Aaron lived off an on in Frederick (now Clarke co.) and Loudoun > >counties, VA. > >G.T. Bishop > > > > > > ==== OLD-FREDERICK-CO-VA Mailing List ==== > OLD-FREDERICK-CO-VA LIST ADMINISTRATOR > Old-Frederick-Co-Va-Admin@RootsWeb.com > Glenn Belcher > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > From the Hills of West Virginia to Lake Erie's Shore. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now > > > ==== OLD-FREDERICK-CO-VA Mailing List ==== > OLD-FREDERICK-CO-VA LIST ADMINISTRATOR > Old-Frederick-Co-Va-Admin@RootsWeb.com > <commander@inetone.net> Glenn Belcher > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Would anyone have any history of the early settlers of Back Creek VA. I am looking for any information for a Teter Barnes and possibility John Shinnabarry, or a spelling close to Shinnabarry. The name has been badly spelled over the years. The family should have been in this area in the 1760/1780 time period. Hope someone can help with my Brick Wall. Thanks Sue

The Shinn surname is quite common in Central WV. remarksk <kskramer@wcoil.com> wrote:Would anyone have any history of the early settlers of Back Creek VA. I am looking for any information for a Teter Barnes and possibility John Shinnabarry, or a spelling close to Shinnabarry. The name has been badly spelled over the years. The family should have been in this area in the 1760/1780 time period. Hope someone can help with my Brick Wall. Thanks Sue ==== OLD-FREDERICK-CO-VA Mailing List ==== OLD FREDERICK-CO-VA LIST ADMINISTRATOR Old-Frederick-Co-Va-Admin@RootsWeb.com Glenn Belcher ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >From the Hills of West Virginia to Lake Erie's Shore. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now

Drive old US 50 from Winchester to Red House Maryland. At Red House you can continue on US 50 to Parkersburg, WV and the Ohio River. Turn North and West an you go to Oakland, MD and if you continue West you hit the Cheat River which runs into the Monongahela River which becomes one third of the Ohio River at Pittsburg, PA. Follow Keyser's Ridge North until you hit the National Road or US 40 an go West and you hit the Ohio River at Wheeling, WV You could also float down the Yough. River and do the same thing. The oldest communities in the area were in what is now southern PA. but was Western Virginia then. Others migrated west from Cumberland, MD. "Maria E. Brower" <mbrower@nccn.net> wrote:This is just a guess as to which county in PA the Marquis went but my Washington White and wife Mary Strahan/Strahin White moved to Greene County PA after 1817 when thier first child was born. They were first in Preston Co VA/WV and there was a Enoch Calvert who I think also came from Frederick County, VA and I believe was kin to Washington White. His mother was Mary Calvert (brother Jesse Calvert stayed in Frederick Co, VA) Lots of the names I have seen in Frederick appear in Greene County. You should borrow a history of Greene County via Inter-library loan. I have been trying to find the group that Washington White migrated west with. Maria E. Brower, Grass Valley, CA >Re: Marquis ..... Moses Bonham & his Ann Marquis his wife moved to western >PA, anyone know which county? Why would they move there, were Marquis >relatives in western PA, or moving along with them? Some of Moses Bonham's >relatives settled in eastern OH, near PA (Belmont co., OH). Aaron Bonham >(father of Moses, I think) purchased some items at a Marquis estate sale >early 1800's. Aaron lived off an on in Frederick (now Clarke co.) and Loudoun >counties, VA. >G.T. Bishop > ==== OLD-FREDERICK-CO-VA Mailing List ==== OLD-FREDERICK-CO-VA LIST ADMINISTRATOR Old-Frederick-Co-Va-Admin@RootsWeb.com Glenn Belcher ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 From the Hills of West Virginia to Lake Erie's Shore. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now

New subscriber and I'm hoping others in this area reseaching will check their book shelves or files for marriages in the counties of interest. It was Wednesday, January 18, 1832 when Hannah ANDERSON wed John Richad NELSON. The bride age sixteen was the daughter of Peter and Hannah BOACHT ANDERSON of Winchester, Frederick Co., VA. I have found no record of their marriage in Winchester or Frederick Co., VA. I'm thinking that because of her age they may have eloped to Maryland where there was no waiting. Right? I have my fingers crossed that they didn't wed in Hampshire Co., VA where marriage records have been lost bet 1824-the Civil War. Thanks in advance for looking and replying. Karen Nelson Hangsleben

Hi, There have been a number of questions concerning the Licking County, Ohio connections to Frederick County, Virginia. I will try to address them as soon as I can; however, I found this entry in the "Birth Registry Frederick County, Virginia" RITTER, Greenberry, born on 20 Dec 1853, parents Isaac H. & Amanda Ritter, Farmer in HOLMES GROVE; Page 10, Line 110. Isaac Henry Ritter's father was Adam Ritter Amanda Ritter was the daughter of Phillip Grandstaff-Bischoff and Mary "Polly" Cooper. This is more evidence of the HOLMES family from St Louisville, Newton Twp., Licking County, Ohio being in the same neighborhood with the RITTER/RUTTER family of Frederick County, Virginia. James Holmes listed as a general store operator and Stephen Ritter listed as an early hotel-tavern keeper in the "150th Anniversary of the Founding of The Village of St. Louisville" 1839. Other Frederick County, VA names included are Koontz, Neighbarger, Booher, Evans, Coffman, O'Bannon, Vance, Oldaker, Jones, Huffman, Smoots but not limited to just those names. Chocy

I am searching for any information on the Crouse, Krouse, Krause, Beatty, Beaty families who lived in or around Old Frederick Co. VA early 1700's to mid 1800's. Am trying to find parents of a Robert Beatty (Beaty) b ca 1796-1801) and Jane Crouse (Krouse) and Michael Crouse (Krouse). Jane was born ca 1813 and married Robert Beatty in 1831 in Frederick Co. VA. I know there were Krouse (Crouse) families living in the area in the 1700's. Am trying to find which one or ones Jane and Michael are descended from. The same for Robert Beatty. Robert and Jane later lived near Middletown, VA. Some of their children lived in Reliance, Middletown, Front Royal, Stephens City, and Strasburg. Both Jane and Robert are buried in the Riding's Chapel Cemetery. I found a marriage record for a Michael Crouse (Krouse) and Elizabeth Sherf (Shert) in 1818, Frederick Co. VA, but have not found any more on them after that. . Any information at all would be appreciated. Am willing to share the information that I do have. Thanks . . Sharon Wilcox wilcoxphoto@dmci.net

The poem, THE MARQUIS CLAN, was written by; Waldo Puss Marquis, 421 South Alta Vista Street, Monrovia, California, July 12, 1934. It was FIRST duplicated by: L.E. Marquis, 120 E. Court, Bellefontaine, Ohio NOW duplicated by:Thomas K. Marquis,P.O.Box 991, Newburgh, Indiana, 47629 >From the Hills of West Virginia to Lake Erie's Shore. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now

I am just guessing, but Newberry is a stop on the migration of either my Marquis-Marquess-Marquiss-Marcus-Mark-Markee or Grove-Groves family. Nena Smothers <smothersnena@hotmail.com> wrote:This is a real tribute to family history! Thoroughly enjoyed and very intrigued as it mentions the Calmers but should it be Calmes? or was Calmes really Calmers? I ask because some of our Smither's md into the Calmes family. Eliz Emaline Calmes b 1817 dau of Marquis Calmes and Mary Ann Johnson, she md Robert Smither, son/o John Smither/Mary Greenway; son/o Gabriel Smither/Wilmouth Routt......he son/o George Smither/Ann..>>DE Smither's Marquis Calmes b may 9 1784 Newberry SC, son/o Wm Calmes/Nancy Berry. Wm Calmes b may 15 1761 Frederick Co Va d 1836 SC was son/o William Waller Calmes/Lucy Neville. Just curious if the Marquis Calmes was related to this family? I do not know the history of the Marquis until I read this poem I mean. thank you, Nena >From: Kay or Darrell Groves Thomas K. Marquis "THE FOLLOWING IS A POEM I DISCOVER WHILE GOING THROUGH MY LATE AUNT MARY LOUISE MARQUIS PERSONNAL EFFECTS FOLLOWING HER DEATH IN MARCH OF 1993. THE MARQUIS CLAN Down in old Virginia, that's where I'd like to be roaming thru the hills and valleys to see what I could see, histories have been written of Virginia, you can read them in the books; That's why I'd like to tramp around and see how the country looks. To the wilds of old Virginia came the settlers long ago; stout-hearted men and women as all the records show. Came Major Marquis Calmers, the sturdy Hugenot, ***** the Marquises, William and his good wife Margaret, _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ==== OLD-FREDERICK-CO-VA Mailing List ==== OLD-FREDERICK-CO-VA LIST ADMINISTRATOR Old-Frederick-Co-Va-Admin@RootsWeb.com Glenn Belcher ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 From the Hills of West Virginia to Lake Erie's Shore. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now

This is a real tribute to family history! Thoroughly enjoyed and very intrigued as it mentions the Calmers but should it be Calmes? or was Calmes really Calmers? I ask because some of our Smither's md into the Calmes family. Eliz Emaline Calmes b 1817 dau of Marquis Calmes and Mary Ann Johnson, she md Robert Smither, son/o John Smither/Mary Greenway; son/o Gabriel Smither/Wilmouth Routt......he son/o George Smither/Ann..>>DE Smither's Marquis Calmes b may 9 1784 Newberry SC, son/o Wm Calmes/Nancy Berry. Wm Calmes b may 15 1761 Frederick Co Va d 1836 SC was son/o William Waller Calmes/Lucy Neville. Just curious if the Marquis Calmes was related to this family? I do not know the history of the Marquis until I read this poem I mean. thank you, Nena >From: Kay or Darrell Groves <kdwgroves@yahoo.com> Thomas K. Marquis "THE FOLLOWING IS A POEM I DISCOVER WHILE GOING THROUGH MY LATE AUNT MARY LOUISE MARQUIS PERSONNAL EFFECTS FOLLOWING HER DEATH IN MARCH OF 1993. THE MARQUIS CLAN Down in old Virginia, that's where I'd like to be roaming thru the hills and valleys to see what I could see, histories have been written of Virginia, you can read them in the books; That's why I'd like to tramp around and see how the country looks. To the wilds of old Virginia came the settlers long ago; stout-hearted men and women as all the records show. Came Major Marquis Calmers, the sturdy Hugenot, ***** the Marquises, William and his good wife Margaret, _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

I am currently reading a book I picked up at a yard sale called THE FRONTIERSMEN by Allan W. Eckert. The book is stated as "fact, not fiction," and start around 1755 in Fauquier Co. Then goes to Kentucky. It is very interesting and provides a background for what times were like in those areas. It is well documented and lists lots of sources. Real names are used and a lot of material comes from diaries of the time. I am about 3/4 the way through and read every minute I can sneak in. I think it is a great source for anyone searching that area in that time period. I have not looked but it is probably on Amazon.com or ebay for a used price. It was first printed in 1967. If you like history and want to know how they got from here to there this will answer a lot of those questions. Coral in California

My GGG grandfather, Isaac Overaker (Overacre), married Rebecca Thorn in 1790 in Frederick County VA. He had brothers, George, Thomas, Daniel and John, and sisters Elizabeth who married John Hoff and Mary who married Jacob Kiger. Their parents were George and Margaret Overaker. The all lived in Frederick County, in Winchester and surrounding area, during the 1700's. Some of them moved to Adams County MS after 1800. Would like to hear from anyone who knows of these people. Douglas Winston Burke

Frederick County, Virginia 1815 Tax List BONHAM, Jeeremiah; Leeds Manor; located 20 miles southeast of the county courthouse at Winchester, Frederick County, Virginia BONHAM, Samuel; 10 miles southeast of the county courthouse at Winchester, Frederick, County, Virginia

Thank you! This is something I did not have. Best wishes, Martha Grenzeback graymatters@alltel.net At 12:03 AM 17-01-2003 -0500, Chocybrown@aol.com wrote: >Frederick County, Virginia >1815 Tax List > >BONHAM, Jeeremiah; Leeds Manor; located 20 miles southeast of the county >courthouse at Winchester, Frederick County, Virginia > >BONHAM, Samuel; 10 miles southeast of the county courthouse at Winchester, >Frederick, County, Virginia > > > > >==== OLD-FREDERICK-CO-VA Mailing List ==== >OLD-FREDERICK-CO-VA LIST ADMINISTRATOR >Old-Frederick-Co-Va-Admin@RootsWeb.com ><commander@inetone.net> Glenn Belcher > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I am interested in the Bonham name, though I haven't done much serious research on it yet--do you know who Aaron Bonham's parents were? I am descended from Jeremiah Bonham (1773-1860), the son of Benjamin and Phoebe Bonham--he was born in Loudoun Co. VA, married Eleanor McDonald, and lived near Levels, Hampshire Co., most of his life (most of this is from second-hand sources, however). Best wishes, Martha Grenzeback graymatters@alltel.net At 08:05 PM 16-01-2003 -0500, BishopLine@aol.com wrote: >Re: Marquis ..... Moses Bonham & his Ann Marquis his wife moved to western >PA, anyone know which county? Why would they move there, were Marquis >relatives in western PA, or moving along with them? Some of Moses Bonham's >relatives settled in eastern OH, near PA (Belmont co., OH). Aaron Bonham >(father of Moses, I think) purchased some items at a Marquis estate sale >early 1800's. Aaron lived off an on in Frederick (now Clarke co.) and Loudoun >counties, VA. >G.T. Bishop > > >==== OLD-FREDERICK-CO-VA Mailing List ==== >OLD FREDERICK-CO-VA LIST ADMINISTRATOR >Old-Frederick-Co-Va-Admin@RootsWeb.com ><commander@inetone.net> Glenn Belcher > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi Hal, As far as I know, at this point of my study of old Frederick County, VA, I am not related to most of the families I have posted. Actually, I am looking for all the relatives of Stephen A and Mary "Polly" RUTTER/RITTER that I can find; however, once in a while its nice to share information I have concerning some subjects that come up on our list. I believe it started with the GLOVER family who I believe from the information that was posted on our list went to St. Louisville, Newton Twp., Licking County, Ohio in the late 1830's via West Virginia probably taking other families consisting of relatives and friends as they seem to have lived in the same neighborhood in Frederick County, VA. Best Regards, Chocy

This is just a guess as to which county in PA the Marquis went but my Washington White and wife Mary Strahan/Strahin White moved to Greene County PA after 1817 when thier first child was born. They were first in Preston Co VA/WV and there was a Enoch Calvert who I think also came from Frederick County, VA and I believe was kin to Washington White. His mother was Mary Calvert (brother Jesse Calvert stayed in Frederick Co, VA) Lots of the names I have seen in Frederick appear in Greene County. You should borrow a history of Greene County via Inter-library loan. I have been trying to find the group that Washington White migrated west with. Maria E. Brower, Grass Valley, CA >Re: Marquis ..... Moses Bonham & his Ann Marquis his wife moved to western >PA, anyone know which county? Why would they move there, were Marquis >relatives in western PA, or moving along with them? Some of Moses Bonham's >relatives settled in eastern OH, near PA (Belmont co., OH). Aaron Bonham >(father of Moses, I think) purchased some items at a Marquis estate sale >early 1800's. Aaron lived off an on in Frederick (now Clarke co.) and Loudoun >counties, VA. >G.T. Bishop >

Re: Marquis ..... Moses Bonham & his Ann Marquis his wife moved to western PA, anyone know which county? Why would they move there, were Marquis relatives in western PA, or moving along with them? Some of Moses Bonham's relatives settled in eastern OH, near PA (Belmont co., OH). Aaron Bonham (father of Moses, I think) purchased some items at a Marquis estate sale early 1800's. Aaron lived off an on in Frederick (now Clarke co.) and Loudoun counties, VA. G.T. Bishop

Will Book #9, 1810-1816 HOFFMAN, Jacob Will. 13 Oct 1812/30 Nov 1812 Wife: Mary Ann Children: Katherine Amick wife of Philip Amick; Barbara Dick wife of John Dick; Jacob Hoffman; Rebecca McKindley wife of Nicholas McKindley; Elizabeth Correll wife of Joseph Correll; William Hoffman; Henry Hoffman Gr. Ch: Augustus McKindley son of Rebecca; Jacob Correll son of Elizabeth To wife, furniture and only one bed. Lots in Winchester purchased of Jonathan Perkins, Conrad Crebs, joining lots of James Vance, Simon Lauck and Lewis Wolfe, to be sold and monies divided among seven children. Daughter Rebecca's share to be held in trust by John Dick after her decease to be paid to her son Augustus McKindley. Daughter Elizabeth's share to be held in trust by John Dick and at her death paid to her son Jacob Correll. Exrs: John Dick and Philip Amick, sons-in-law Wit: Lem'l Bent, John Windle, Conrad Crebs Sec: Isaac Hollingsworth, Samuel Glass, William Marques. "Mary Ann Hoffman, widow of said Jacob Hoffman, dec'd, in open court, refused taking the provisions made for her in said will in lieu of her dower." (Page 183-184)