Dear List, Would you be kind enough to assist me with a few words in the will of John Cadde of Little Hereford. http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~oel/unsolved37.html They are mostly placenames and names of people. However, there are one or two questions arising from the documents. 1. A phrase is used: "lones and slayes": the common sense answer is that it is a debt of some kind but what does "slayes" mean? 2. In a number of places the term " w[hi]ch remayneth in the handes of..." is used and in one place it is qualified by "... by bond...". Can anyone explain these terms? Is it just a way of detailing debts or goods owing? Finally. 3. One bequest is priced up. "Item I give and bequeathe unto Ellinor Balden of Orleton widowe tenn yearlinge sheepe at the price of three shillinge six pence a peece w[hi]ch remayneth in the hands of Richard Cooke of the parrishe of middleton". What is the significance of giving a price to the bequest? It is the only one of quite a few similar bequests. Thankyou Steve Cadd,
Line 2 - Llanbathoe[w?]ne Dovey Line 5 - Wevardes Closse Line 8 - remayneth in the handes of Kellem Line 9 - Richard Parchammor Line 13 - Thomas Hary Line 15 - Lawnde Richard Lingen [or Linger?] Slayes could be another way of writing layes which are taxes. Audrey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Cadd" <stevecadd@tesco.net> To: <OLD-ENGLISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 8:55 AM Subject: [OEL] Will of John Cadde of Herefordshire > Dear List, > > Would you be kind enough to assist me with a few words in the will of John Cadde of Little Hereford. > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~oel/unsolved37.html > > They are mostly placenames and names of people. > > However, there are one or two questions arising from the documents. > > 1. A phrase is used: "lones and slayes": the common sense answer is that it is a debt of some kind but what does "slayes" mean? > > 2. In a number of places the term " w[hi]ch remayneth in the handes of..." is used and in one place it is qualified by "... by bond...". Can anyone explain these terms? > Is it just a way of detailing debts or goods owing? > > Finally. > > 3. One bequest is priced up. > > "Item I give and bequeathe unto Ellinor Balden of Orleton widowe tenn yearlinge sheepe at the price of three shillinge six pence a peece w[hi]ch remayneth in the hands of Richard Cooke of the parrishe of middleton". > > What is the significance of giving a price to the bequest? > It is the only one of quite a few similar bequests. > > Thankyou > > Steve Cadd, > > > ==== OLD-ENGLISH Mailing List ==== > To contact the list administrator: > OLD-ENGLISH-admin@rootsweb.com > >
Changed my mind, sorry, on line 10. I think it's Richard Parrhamore. Audrey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Cadd" <stevecadd@tesco.net> To: <OLD-ENGLISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 8:55 AM Subject: [OEL] Will of John Cadde of Herefordshire > Dear List, > > Would you be kind enough to assist me with a few words in the will of John Cadde of Little Hereford. > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~oel/unsolved37.html > > They are mostly placenames and names of people. > > However, there are one or two questions arising from the documents. > > 1. A phrase is used: "lones and slayes": the common sense answer is that it is a debt of some kind but what does "slayes" mean? > > 2. In a number of places the term " w[hi]ch remayneth in the handes of..." is used and in one place it is qualified by "... by bond...". Can anyone explain these terms? > Is it just a way of detailing debts or goods owing? > > Finally. > > 3. One bequest is priced up. > > "Item I give and bequeathe unto Ellinor Balden of Orleton widowe tenn yearlinge sheepe at the price of three shillinge six pence a peece w[hi]ch remayneth in the hands of Richard Cooke of the parrishe of middleton". > > What is the significance of giving a price to the bequest? > It is the only one of quite a few similar bequests. > > Thankyou > > Steve Cadd, > > > ==== OLD-ENGLISH Mailing List ==== > To contact the list administrator: > OLD-ENGLISH-admin@rootsweb.com > >
In message <003701c41ae3$67169c90$5cea89d9@Steve>, Steve Cadd <stevecadd@tesco.net> writes >Dear List, > >Would you be kind enough to assist me with a few words in the will of John Cadde >of Little Hereford. > >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~oel/unsolved37.html > before looking > >2. In a number of places the term " w[hi]ch remayneth in the handes of. a 'term' is the unexpired part of a lease. So if Dad leased property for 30 year ten years ago, the heir or legatee gets 20 years more in the lease. If it was 29 years ago, then the heir is not doing quite as well. If someone else holds a short lease, then eventually, the property will come back to the family >.." is >used and in one place it is qualified by "... by bond...". it was usual to secure land transactions by a legal document - and this may refer to the payment of x pounds for the lease, or y shillings a year as a sort of rent etc > >"Item I give and bequeathe unto Ellinor Balden of Orleton widowe tenn yearlinge >sheepe at the price of three shillinge six pence a peece w[hi]ch remayneth in >the hands of Richard Cooke of the parrishe of middleton". > >What is the significance of giving a price to the bequest? making it clear that she gets a certain grade of sheep. Others may bhe higher or lower quality, worth more or less, -- Eve McLaughlin Author of the McLaughlin Guides for family historians Secretary Bucks Genealogical Society