Dear Steve Don't know if you received any replies regarding the price given to the sheep and the other cattle remaining in the hands of ..... . This refers to the practice of hiring out animals to others so that they might have their produce and any young that they may produce would also belong to the person hiring the animal. A cow is often used this way. It's a way of the owner having an income from the animal without having to maintain it and the benefit to the one hiring is clear. This almost certainly the reason for giving a value to the sheep that is hired out so that a reasonable rent can continue to be paid for the animal. On a different tack - did you see the message I wrote to list regarding the place name? In case you didn't, I am copying it below. "Can't remember who wanted a transcription of what now but have just had a look at my Welsh Place Name and their Meanings book. I found Llan Bach Howey. If you join Llanbach and follow it by Howey, then you have the nearest approximation to what the letters say in the document. What do you all think? Unfortunately, I can't find it on the map or in the index to my trusty gazeteer. By the way, it means 'church of river bed of r. Hywi. Have just looked for Howey and found it in Powys, near Llandindrod Wells. I hope this helps someone. I find it strange that it's in my Welsh names book but not on the map. Perhaps it's too small for the scale but it should figure in modern times, one should think, or why else put it in the book?" Audrey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Cadd" <stevecadd@tesco.net> To: <OLD-ENGLISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 8:55 AM Subject: [OEL] Will of John Cadde of Herefordshire > Dear List, > > Would you be kind enough to assist me with a few words in the will of John Cadde of Little Hereford. > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~oel/unsolved37.html > > They are mostly placenames and names of people. > > However, there are one or two questions arising from the documents. > > 1. A phrase is used: "lones and slayes": the common sense answer is that it is a debt of some kind but what does "slayes" mean? > > 2. In a number of places the term " w[hi]ch remayneth in the handes of..." is used and in one place it is qualified by "... by bond...". Can anyone explain these terms? > Is it just a way of detailing debts or goods owing? > > Finally. > > 3. One bequest is priced up. > > "Item I give and bequeathe unto Ellinor Balden of Orleton widowe tenn yearlinge sheepe at the price of three shillinge six pence a peece w[hi]ch remayneth in the hands of Richard Cooke of the parrishe of middleton". > > What is the significance of giving a price to the bequest? > It is the only one of quite a few similar bequests. > > Thankyou > > Steve Cadd, > > > ==== OLD-ENGLISH Mailing List ==== > To contact the list administrator: > OLD-ENGLISH-admin@rootsweb.com > >