Audrey I'm not so sure about pauper apprentices and 'apprentice houses'. I've never heard of an apprentice house, is it an urban thing ...? The parish apprenticeships I have seen involve the parish paying the master to feed and support the apprentice, albeit at a very low rate. Lyn B

In message <000001c41b55$26e79da0$5ae04d51@lynhome>, Lyn Boothman <annys@boothman27.fsnet.co.uk> writes >Audrey >I'm not so sure about pauper apprentices and 'apprentice houses'. I've >never heard of an apprentice house, is it an urban thing It is just a Styal mill etc thing, for a special use of papuer children. Greg of Styal housed his lads decently, fed, clothed, saw to their moral welfare and even a biot of education. Some of the others shovelled the boys into a shed with straw for bedding and turfed them out when the recession came. Normally, there were no ' houses' for apprentices since they didn't come in bulk > The parish >apprenticeships I have seen involve the parish paying the master to feed >and support the apprentice, albeit at a very low rate. One requirement was that he had to supply regular clothing - and you know how boys grow between 14 and 21 - and at the end of the apprenticeship 'double apparel' meaning a work suit and a Sunday one. -- Eve McLaughlin Author of the McLaughlin Guides for family historians Secretary Bucks Genealogical Society

Dear Lyn My home is rural, albeit now on the edge of a conurbation but back in the late 1700s and early 1800s it was in the heart of the countryside. We had a large apprentice house and apprentices were brought from workhouses in the Isle of Skye and the East End of London. Our mill owner was reckoned to be a kind one who believed in welfare but still only a very limited form by the standards of today. There were many other apprentice houses around Derbyshire and there is a fairly well known book based on the diary of one who escaped and came to join our apprentices. Audrey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyn Boothman" <annys@boothman27.fsnet.co.uk> To: "'norman.lee1'" <norman.lee1@virgin.net>; <OLD-ENGLISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 10:29 PM Subject: Re: [OEL] low pay, 1812 > Audrey > I'm not so sure about pauper apprentices and 'apprentice houses'. I've > never heard of an apprentice house, is it an urban thing ...? The parish > apprenticeships I have seen involve the parish paying the master to feed > and support the apprentice, albeit at a very low rate. > > Lyn B > > > >