It seems likely that the Patriarch of the Stourton Family was a leader of the church or the church council, or a major benefactor, and that his coat of arms were included for that reason. The phrase seems to be an offer of services and advice to non-believers or to those who question the death and resurrection of Christ or to the belief of their own pending death and resurrection. I agree that the family coat of arms motto would not be the same as this motto of the Church. It could be true that Council or Counsel was intended and either would be appropiate as an offer of assistance or advice. It would be interesting to know if the Stourton coat of arms included any religious icons. Sincerely, James E. Hargraves In a message dated 5/26/2004 5:14:28 AM Pacific Standard Time, roy.cox@btinternet.com writes: Another thought from a list member: "Council (to those who) Question (the) Pass Over". I am very inclined to go along with this last offering because it seems to fit the occasion, even though the arms of Stourton, I am told, are not related, that motto being different anyway. This now begs the question, "Why are the arms in the same light as the motto in question"?