Hi Sandra In this text what does the term copy mean in "both freehold and copy"? Another question: If a child is the "bafe" child, does that means she is illegitimate? If so is it usual then to take the father's surname? I am talking of the early 1700's. Annette From: "Sandra Lovegrove" <sandra@lovegrove.org.uk> Subject: [OEL] Re: Will > I desire that all those who are holding any of my land on trust for me are to > give it back to my executors when properly asked to do so. > > It's just a pious utterance, as the "feoffees" would in any event have to give > up land which they occupying in accordance with the terms of the particular > "use" (old-style trust) in question. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Annette Mclean" <dandamclean@xtra.co.nz> > Subject: Will > > Could some one please tell me what this means. > > > > From a 1525 Suffolk will ..I will that all my enfoeffees that are foeffed to > my use in all such lands both freehold and copy which as I have that they and > every ? of them to deliver estate to my executors according to my will at all > timeswhensoever they shall be conveniently required. > > > > Thanks in advance > > Annette >

Just intruding on this one. "Freehold and copy" means freehold and copyhold land. Copyhold is a type of leasehold land, usually a long lease written into the manor roll and hence the 'copy' part of the word. "Bafe" is probably "base" with the long s and does usually refer to illegitimacy. There is no rule as to the surname that has to be used. It can be the mother's name or the father's, often depending upon whose family has the most influence. Sometimes you get an alias put in, e.g. John Smith alias Jones, using both surnames. In this case, I often think the mother is hedging her bets but that's just my idea. Audrey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Annette Mclean" <dandamclean@xtra.co.nz> To: <OLD-ENGLISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 10:28 PM Subject: Re: [OEL] Re: Will > Hi Sandra > In this text what does the term copy mean in "both freehold and copy"? > > Another question: If a child is the "bafe" child, does that means she is > illegitimate? If so is it usual then to take the father's surname? I am > talking of the early 1700's. > > Annette > > From: "Sandra Lovegrove" <sandra@lovegrove.org.uk> > Subject: [OEL] Re: Will > > > > I desire that all those who are holding any of my land on trust for me are > to > > give it back to my executors when properly asked to do so. > > > > It's just a pious utterance, as the "feoffees" would in any event have to > give > > up land which they occupying in accordance with the terms of the > particular > > "use" (old-style trust) in question. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Annette Mclean" <dandamclean@xtra.co.nz> > > Subject: Will > > > > Could some one please tell me what this means. > > > > > > From a 1525 Suffolk will ..I will that all my enfoeffees that are > foeffed to > > my use in all such lands both freehold and copy which as I have that they > and > > every ? of them to deliver estate to my executors according to my will at > all > > timeswhensoever they shall be conveniently required. > > > > > > Thanks in advance > > > Annette > > > > > ==== OLD-ENGLISH Mailing List ==== > THREADED archives for OLD-ENGLISH: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=OLD-ENGLISH > >