It appears to say: "Council (to those who) Question (the) Pass Over". Sincerely, James E. Hargraves In a message dated 5/25/2004 1:58:39 PM Pacific Standard Time, roy.cox@btinternet.com writes: Good Evening All I have a problem with a Latin motto which appears in the light of a church that I am writing up the history of. I wonder if some kind soul can help please? "STATERAM NE TRANSGREDIARIS" I think the problem lies with the first word which may not be spelt correctly? Included in the same light are the arms of a Stourton family but there is nothing to suggest that the Arms relate to the motto. Kind Regards and thanking you advance June & Roy (SANHS Member No 1066) http://www.btinternet.com/~roy.cox/index.htm ==== OLD-ENGLISH Mailing List ==== Going away for a while? Don't forget to UNSUBSCRIBE! OLD-ENGLISH-L-request@rootsweb.com