Good Morning Chris - Not a Latin scholar but wishing I had paid a little more attention at school! However - my record interpreter which lists Latin forms of English surnames has two for consideration? Each Latin form in the list is preceded by the word 'de' meaning I assume - of? 1. de Landalis = Landal, Landels 2. de Langdon or Landona = Langdon The whole A to Z list is on my web site http://www.btinternet.com/~roy.cox/definitions/latin/surname.htm Kind Regards June & Roy http://www.btinternet.com/~roy.cox/index.htm -----Original Message----- From: Chris Phillips [mailto:cgp@medievalgenealogy.org.uk] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 9:57 AM To: OLD-ENGLISH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OEL] Indecipherable marginal note in probate book Martyn Loveys wrote: << Appears to be - mense decembris 1619 undecimo die emanavit comissio Nichus Lindley nepoti &c fre dicti def Ad ami'strand bona iura et Cred dic def iuxta tenorem et [? ----] pred testi per domina[m] Jeromima[m] Lyndley def non plene admi'strate de bene &c Iurat >> I must say you've deciphered a lot more than I could manage. I wonder if the mystery word could be an abbreviated form of "effectum", "effictum", or something similar. I think the relationship to the deceased must be "nepoti ex f[rat]re" - nephew through the brother. The only problem is that I can't read the name as Nicholas, no matter how hard I try. It should be in the dative case, so I think the final letter is clearly an 'o'. The last few letters look more like "guro" than anything else. And is the first letter really 'N'? Looking at it closely, could it be an 'A' followed by a strange sort of flourish? I wonder if this could be a rare Christian name perhaps coined from a surname, in which case it will probably have to be tracked down in other records. I did try searching the PRO catalogue for "L*ndl*y", with the limits 1580-1670. It turned up quite a lot that could be relevant, including an inquisition post mortem described as follows: C 142/317/96 Lindley, Henry, knight: York 8 James I. If this is the right man, it would name his heir (presumably the same nephew, unless Henry had children under age). It would also be in Latin, though. Chris Phillips ==== OLD-ENGLISH Mailing List ==== To contact the list administrator: OLD-ENGLISH-admin@rootsweb.com