There are many good mediaeval Latin word-lists on the web, the following is taken exclusively from manor deeds, so contains Latin words for farm animals, crops, etc: http://www.keele.ac.uk/depts/hi/resources/manor_courts/voc03c.pdf. About 3000 words on 26 2-col pages. John Barton

John or any others, as John said the web is full of Latin word lists and phrases and sayings, but has anyone found a website which particularly features those bits of official latin that local and family historians are most likely to come across - outside the realm of manorial courts and inventories. I am dealing with a load of 17th century correspondence and some official documents, often with the odd bits of Latin in them, which could now be translated several ways but probably had one very definite meaning at the time. An example, does 'p lre de primat Sigillo' at the end of a letter / document from the king or the signet office mean: By letter with the privy seal or By letter under the privy seal or By letter from the office of the privy seal To be a letter with the privy seal or what ??? I can find hundreds of phrases and sayings sites, but has some nice expert put together a list of these sort of phrases?? Lyn B

In message <000001c47f22$5aeaf620$124b4d51@lynhome>, Lyn Boothman <annys@boothman27.fsnet.co.uk> writes >John or any others, as John said the web is full of Latin word lists and >phrases and sayings, but has anyone found a website which particularly >features those bits of official latin that local and family historians are >most likely to come across - outside the realm of manorial courts and >inventories. > >I am dealing with a load of 17th century correspondence and some official >documents, often with the odd bits of Latin in them, which could now be >translated several ways but probably had one very definite meaning at the >time. > >An example, does 'p lre de primat Sigillo' at the end of a letter / document >from the king or the signet office mean: > >By letter with the privy seal or >By letter under the privy seal or >By letter from the office of the privy seal any of those - means the same thing. >I can find hundreds of phrases and sayings sites, but has some nice expert >put together a list of these sort of phrases?? Long ago - I wrote Simple Latin for Family Historians, which covers everything that you would meet in a parish register (names, occupations, relationships, words for BMD, number, date, will probate. And Manorial Records, which includes Latin regularly used in those. Denis Stuart includes more mediaeval words in his Manorial Records, with document extracts. The Borthwick Institute, York, do folders of documents with key transcriptions for different periods > >Lyn B > > > > > > > >==== OLD-ENGLISH Mailing List ==== >SEARCHABLE archives for OLD-ENGLISH: >http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=OLD-ENGLISH > -- Eve McLaughlin Author of the McLaughlin Guides for family historians Secretary Bucks Genealogical Society