Yes! The evolution comes to mind with these types of pots/kettles being used catch salmon in the rivers Parret & Axe in Somerset in days gone by, although I'm unsure as to whether they were known by this name or a variation of it? Their shape was more squarish than round or triangular although other traps in Bridgwater bay were I think the latter? Kind Regards Roy LD Cox Family Historian Member of SA&NHS Member No. 1066 (And all That!) Web Site: www.coxresearcher.com/index.htm I also use www.archivecdbooks.com and www.localhistory.co.uk/ambra for my research -----Original Message----- From: Eve McLaughlin [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 3:04 PM To: Roy Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [OEL] Meaning of "kidel" In message <[email protected]>, Roy <[email protected]> writes >Good Evening Martyn - > >KIDEL - the nearest I can find is 'KID' - A bundle of wood or brushwood >twigs for kindling? a close extension is that a kid is a wickerwork basket, so this 'little kid' could be a wickerwork fish trap or curved wicker construction, cunningly placed in the stream to trap fish (hence a kiddle or kettle of fish).. The modern survival on a small scale is a lobster pot. -- Eve McLaughlin Author of the McLaughlin Guides for family historians Secretary Bucks Genealogical Society -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.3/423 - Release Date: 18/08/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.3/423 - Release Date: 18/08/2006