Whilst this thread is still up and running listers might be interested (I hesitate to say "amused" as passions were aroused and feelings strong) in an appeal heard at The Court of Arches and reported in The Times in 1827. One Esau Jenkins had been brought before the Consistory Court of St David's "for brawling in the churchyard against the statute, quarrelling, chiding and other enormous crimes and offences". As reported, "Mary Jenkins, baptist, being about to be married to a person of whom her father disapproved, Esau Jenkins entered the church at LLangan in Walesand conducted himself improperly towards the Reverend Daniel Rowlands who was preparing to perform the matrimonial service. In consequence of what passed the clergyman refused to perform the ceremony until Mary Jenkins had undergone the rite of baptism to which she assented. Whereupon her father leaped upon the font.prevented the ceremony and declared that his daughter should bring such a slur on the religion of the baptists The judge, for legal reasons which are not fully detailed, seems to have decided in favour of Jenkins, but advised him that whilst he might differ from the established church he should exercise toleration towards it. Seemingly, no mention of the poor Mary or what passed between daughter and father ! So there is a case relating to "the baptism of such as are of riper years" !! Jim Halsey