Note: The Rootsweb Mailing Lists will be shut down on April 6, 2023. (More info)
RootsWeb.com Mailing Lists
Total: 3/3
    1. Re: [OEL] Need help understanding Bancroft deeds
    2. L B Hansen
    3. Sorry - The link was not working - here are the deeds in question - Thanks - Linda 1639 page 563- Covenant to stand seised made between 1.'Raphe' Bancrofte of Barrow upon Trent, yeoman and 2. Jarvis Bancrofte of the same place, natural brother of Raphe, by which, for love and affection and to enable Jarvis to execute Raphe 's will, the latter covenants to stand seised of 1/3 of messuage with lands belonging in Aston, in the tenure of Christopher Bancrofte, Raphe's brother, and all other lands of Raphe in Aston, to the use of himself for life, remainder to Jarvis for ever, in trust that if Christopher pays £120 to Raphe during his life or to Jarvis after Raphe 's death, the premises will be conveyed to Christopher. 1639 -page 564-565 Bargain and sale in trust (2 parts) made between 1. Jarvis Bancrofte of Barrow upon Trent, William Bancrofte of the same place and John Bancrofte of Chellaston, yeomen 2. John Soare of Chellaston and John Martyn of Stapleford, county Nottingham, yeoman 3. Christopher Bancroft of Aston yeoman, by which Jarvis, William and John Bancrofte for £240 paid to them by Christopher Bancroft, at Christopher's direction and in trust for him, conveyed to Soare and Martyn the messuage in which Christopher Bancroft now lives, 3 yardlands of land, meadow or pasture, buildings, meadows, leasows, closes and pastures in Aston belonging to the messuage, all formerly the freehold possessions of Henry Sachaverell late of Hopwell esquire deceased. L B Hansen <[email protected]> wrote: I am struggling with the following deeds that are on A2A http://www.a2a.org.uk/search/documentxsl.asp?com=1&i=0&nbKey=1&stylesheet=xsl\A2A_com.xsl&keyword=Jarvis%20Bancrofte&properties=0601 If anyone has a moment to take a look at them and advise me - I would appreciate it. Someone told me yesterday that since the second deed holds an amount in trust for Christopher Bancroft that he must be a minor. It did not appear that he was a minor in his father's will in 1625. As a matter of fact, a Chrstopher Bancroft witnessed the will - but maybe a different Christopher? According to the first deed - it appears that Ralphe Bancroft had recently died though I have not found a copy of his will in the Derbyshire records. Thanks- Linda --------------------------------- All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. ==== OLD-ENGLISH Mailing List ==== OLD-ENGLISH Web Page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~oel/ --------------------------------- Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business.

    08/25/2006 04:46:33
    1. Re: [OEL] Need help understanding Bancroft deeds
    2. L B Hansen
    3. Thank you - It does appear that Ralphe was still living at the time these were made although it does seem like they believed Ralphe's death was to occur before Jarvis' death. It also appears to me that Ralphe did not have any other descendants besides his siblings. Linda L B Hansen <[email protected]> wrote: 1639 page 563- Covenant to stand seised made between 1.'Raphe' Bancrofte of Barrow upon Trent, yeoman and 2. Jarvis Bancrofte of the same place, natural brother of Raphe, by which, for love and affection and to enable Jarvis to execute Raphe 's will, the latter covenants to stand seised of 1/3 of messuage with lands belonging in Aston, in the tenure of Christopher Bancrofte, Raphe's brother, and all other lands of Raphe in Aston, to the use of himself for life, remainder to Jarvis for ever, in trust that if Christopher pays £120 to Raphe during his life or to Jarvis after Raphe 's death, the premises will be conveyed to Christopher. --------------------------------- Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business.

    08/25/2006 06:51:32
    1. Re: [OEL] Need help understanding Bancroft deeds
    2. Eve McLaughlin
    3. In message <[email protected]>, L B Hansen <[email protected]> writes >Sorry - The link was not working - here are the deeds in question - Thanks - >Linda > > 1639 page 563- Covenant to stand seised made between 1.'Raphe' Bancrofte of >Barrow upon Trent, yeoman and 2. Jarvis Bancrofte of the same place, natural >brother of Raphe, by which, for love and affection and to enable Jarvis to >execute Raphe 's will, the latter covenants to stand seised of 1/3 of messuage >with lands belonging in Aston, in the tenure of Christopher Bancrofte, Raphe's >brother, and all other lands of Raphe in Aston, to the use of himself for life, >remainder to Jarvis for ever, in trust that if Christopher pays £120 to Raphe >during his life or to Jarvis after Raphe 's death, the premises will be conveyed >to Christopher. This sounds as if Christopher is an adult, able to make contracts and liable to perform legal obligations. Ths situation is probably that Jarvis is to be executor of Ralph's will, so he needs to be able to raise some money (to pay money bequests to others?). The third of the house where Christopher lives and all other lands are therefore agreed to be handed over to him on Ralph's death, but if Christopher pays up £120 he owes (??mortgage/ bond), then he gets a clear title to the rest of the house and the other lands after Ralph's death. If he doesn't pay up the money, he doesn't get the house and land, which Jarvis retains (and presumably sells to pay off the other legacies.) > > >1639 -page 564-565 Bargain and sale in trust (2 parts) made between 1. Jarvis >Bancrofte of Barrow upon Trent, William Bancrofte of the same place and John >Bancrofte of Chellaston, yeomen 2. John Soare of Chellaston and John Martyn of >Stapleford, county Nottingham, yeoman 3. Christopher Bancroft of Aston yeoman, >by which Jarvis, William and John Bancrofte for £240 paid to them by Christopher >Bancroft, at Christopher's direction and in trust for him, conveyed to Soare and >Martyn the messuage in which Christopher Bancroft now lives, 3 yardlands of >land, meadow or pasture, buildings, meadows, leasows, closes and pastures in >Aston belonging to the messuage, all formerly the freehold possessions of Henry >Sachaverell late of Hopwell esquire deceased. > > This must be after Ralph's death. Christopher has, possibly, defaulted on the £120 and therefore become indebted for £240 (this was usual); Now he is paying up the debt, and therefore comes into possession of the whole of the house and the other lands. But he is skint after doing so, and therefore has to sell the whole property (or this part of it, if he has other property left) to get his finances on an even keel again. Jarvis and William are sort of stakeholders for the transaction and will hand over the whole house and lands mentioned to Messrs Soar and Martin, the moment Chris pays up. Could be that Chris has borrowed the £240 from S & M to pay J & W. The security for the mortgage is the house etc. This could be an outright sale, or one which Chris expected that he would get back when his ship came in. -- Eve McLaughlin Author of the McLaughlin Guides for family historians Secretary Bucks Genealogical Society

    08/25/2006 05:48:06