Hi Roy A *nailer* would make "cut" nails - the normal method for most common types of nails - hence the distinction of a "nail caster" for someone who made the more specialised cast nails. As I think has been mentioned these were often of other metals than iron, where making them from the sheet was not an option. Polly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [OEL] Occupation Translation Hi Ros - Thanks for this interesting info - one has to wonder now how the word CASTER was linked to a person who cuts sheet metal in to strips of nails rather than being a "Nail Cutter" ? No doubt about them being metal workers. Kind Regards Roy LD Cox Family Historian Member of SA&NHS Member No. 1066 (And all That!) Web Site: www.coxresearcher.com/index.htm I also use www.archivecdbooks.com and www.localhistory.co.uk/ambra for my research -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ros Jarvis Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 9:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [OEL] Occupation Translation my family were nail caster in Brum for nigh on hundred years and they made nails - they were variously described as brass nail casters, iron nail casters and nail casters but they were definitiely metal workers. Ros ----- Original Message ----- From: "John" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 1:20 AM Subject: Re: [OEL] Occupation Translation > The problem is that nails tended to be cut rather than cast, the > problem with cast iron being that it is totally unsuited to making > nails. We really need to look for either an alternative meaning for > nail, or and alternative meaning for cast. > This is why I was asking for context. A nail can be a measure of > cloth and a nail is also the name for the wire in a cotton comb. > > John > > > At 00:54 20/10/2006, you wrote: >>Sounds like you've guessed rightly. >> >>Audrey >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Simon Beck" <[email protected]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 6:03 PM >>Subject: [OEL] Occupation Translation >> >> >> > Hey all, >> > >> > I recently acquired an old birth certificate of a relative, dating back >> > to >> > 1887. I was unsure what the father's occupation said, so I asked Judith >> > to >> > try and tell me what is says - which she very kindly did (a nail >> > caster). >> > >> > What I am not sure of however is what a nail caster in 1887 actually >> > did? >> > Could it be the making of nails? >> > >> > I have uploaded the image to >> > >> http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/message/an/topics.researchresources.transl ators/171 >> > if you care to see it for youselves. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.9/490 - Release Date: 20/10/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.9/490 - Release Date: 20/10/2006 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Good Morning Polly and thanks for this info - However I may have solved the problem, apparently there are pieces of metal called Cast Star nails, the like which are used on a variety of metal decorative works where a hole is bored in the metal strip and the star nail inserted. There are probably other cast shapes which one supposes will describe that desired but I have only just come across this one mentioned in a Google search, the description "Star" indicating the head of the nail to be that shape. When this discussion first started I couldn't believe that a cast nail would stand up to any of the stresses of holding two pieces of wood together! Kind Regards Roy LD Cox Family Historian Member of SA&NHS Member No. 1066 (And all That!) Web Site: www.coxresearcher.com/index.htm I also use www.archivecdbooks.com and www.localhistory.co.uk/ambra for my research -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Polly Rubery Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 9:26 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [OEL] Occupation Translation Hi Roy A *nailer* would make "cut" nails - the normal method for most common types of nails - hence the distinction of a "nail caster" for someone who made the more specialised cast nails. As I think has been mentioned these were often of other metals than iron, where making them from the sheet was not an option. Polly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [OEL] Occupation Translation Hi Ros - Thanks for this interesting info - one has to wonder now how the word CASTER was linked to a person who cuts sheet metal in to strips of nails rather than being a "Nail Cutter" ? No doubt about them being metal workers. Kind Regards Roy LD Cox Family Historian Member of SA&NHS Member No. 1066 (And all That!) Web Site: www.coxresearcher.com/index.htm I also use www.archivecdbooks.com and www.localhistory.co.uk/ambra for my research -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ros Jarvis Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 9:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [OEL] Occupation Translation my family were nail caster in Brum for nigh on hundred years and they made nails - they were variously described as brass nail casters, iron nail casters and nail casters but they were definitiely metal workers. Ros ----- Original Message ----- From: "John" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 1:20 AM Subject: Re: [OEL] Occupation Translation > The problem is that nails tended to be cut rather than cast, the > problem with cast iron being that it is totally unsuited to making > nails. We really need to look for either an alternative meaning for > nail, or and alternative meaning for cast. > This is why I was asking for context. A nail can be a measure of cloth > and a nail is also the name for the wire in a cotton comb. > > John > > > At 00:54 20/10/2006, you wrote: >>Sounds like you've guessed rightly. >> >>Audrey >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Simon Beck" <[email protected]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 6:03 PM >>Subject: [OEL] Occupation Translation >> >> >> > Hey all, >> > >> > I recently acquired an old birth certificate of a relative, dating >> > back >> > to >> > 1887. I was unsure what the father's occupation said, so I asked >> > Judith >> > to >> > try and tell me what is says - which she very kindly did (a nail >> > caster). >> > >> > What I am not sure of however is what a nail caster in 1887 >> > actually did? >> > Could it be the making of nails? >> > >> > I have uploaded the image to >> > >> http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/message/an/topics.researchresources.transl ators/171 >> > if you care to see it for youselves. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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