Eve - I have ancestors who went to Manchester in that time period. Do you mind if I ask why people were moving there? Linda Eve McLaughlin <[email protected]> wrote: In the early C19, Manchester was expanding rapidly, -- --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.

It certainly was expanding rapidly, with mills and factories, and there was plenty of work for people. Poor people from the countryside flocked into cities generally, and certainly into thriving ones like Manchester. Nowadays the 19C mills are mostly luxury apartments, although part of the medieval city is still there, notably Sinclairs Oyster Bar. I believe it had to be moved after the IRA bomb, but it is still there and thriving, just of Exchange Square. The Old Printworks is now an entertainment and leisure complex. The whole city has a pleasant cosmopolitan feel to it. It is worth a visit for any historian, but I would recommend waiting until the Deansgate branch of John Rylands Library reopens after refurbishment - sometime later this year I think. It is a magnificent library with some wonderful documents in it. To look at old or rare documents you need a letter of introduction tho, and certainly in the past they preferred to know you were coming and what you wanted to look at if it was something out of the ordinary. The records of Lyme Hall are there, and make fascinating reading, I did some work on them a while back. The Hall itself holds them too and you can look there normally, but it happened to be in the middle of the Foot and Mouth outbreak, so I couldnt go onto Lyme Park. Lyme Hall, just outside Manchester, was used as Pemberley in the TV adaptation of Pride and Prejudice - THAT lake is there. Sorry I have rambled Liz - who lives just outside Manchester > >Eve - I have ancestors who went to Manchester in that time period. Do you >mind if I ask why people were moving there? Linda > >Eve McLaughlin <[email protected]> wrote: In the early C19, >Manchester was expanding rapidly, >-- > > > > > >--------------------------------- >Do you Yahoo!? > Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. > > >==== OLD-ENGLISH Mailing List ==== >OLD-ENGLISH Web Page >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~oel/ >

Hi Liz Sinclair's Oyster Bar was moved twice. It hadn't been near Marks & Spencer long before the bomb did its worst. It's a miracle that it survived at all. You are right in that there is so much to see and do in Manchester, both for the historian and in other ways. Don't forget the Central Reference Library that is situated in St. Peter's Square, site of the Peterloo Massacre. This library has a very good local history section and Chetham's Library also has many useful original documents.. For anyone with an interest in the industrial revolution, Manchester is extremely important. Then there are the Castle Field's excavations and so on, and so on. Audrey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz Parkinson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 4:05 AM Subject: Re: [OEL] MARIAGE FEES CATHEDRALS > It certainly was expanding rapidly, with mills and factories, and there > was plenty of work for people. Poor people from the countryside flocked > into cities generally, and certainly into thriving ones like Manchester. > > Nowadays the 19C mills are mostly luxury apartments, although part of the > medieval city is still there, notably Sinclairs Oyster Bar. I believe it > had to be moved after the IRA bomb, but it is still there and thriving, > just of Exchange Square. The Old Printworks is now an entertainment and > leisure complex. The whole city has a pleasant cosmopolitan feel to it. > > It is worth a visit for any historian, but I would recommend waiting until > the Deansgate branch of John Rylands Library reopens after refurbishment - > sometime later this year I think. It is a magnificent library with some > wonderful documents in it. To look at old or rare documents you need a > letter of introduction tho, and certainly in the past they preferred to > know you were coming and what you wanted to look at if it was something > out of the ordinary. > > The records of Lyme Hall are there, and make fascinating reading, I did > some work on them a while back. The Hall itself holds them too and you > can look there normally, but it happened to be in the middle of the Foot > and Mouth outbreak, so I couldnt go onto Lyme Park. Lyme Hall, just > outside Manchester, was used as Pemberley in the TV adaptation of Pride > and Prejudice - THAT lake is there. > > Sorry I have rambled > > Liz - who lives just outside Manchester > > >> >>Eve - I have ancestors who went to Manchester in that time period. Do you >>mind if I ask why people were moving there? Linda >> >>Eve McLaughlin <[email protected]> wrote: In the early C19, >>Manchester was expanding rapidly, >>-- >> >> >> >> >> >>--------------------------------- >>Do you Yahoo!? >> Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. >> >> >>==== OLD-ENGLISH Mailing List ==== >>OLD-ENGLISH Web Page >>http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~oel/ >> > > > > ==== OLD-ENGLISH Mailing List ==== > Going away for a while? > Don't forget to UNSUBSCRIBE! > [email protected] > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: 28/07/2006 > >

Dear Linda Manchester was the commercial center serving "King Cotton" and many of the mills in townships around had warehouses in Manchester as well as mills in their own towns. Besides these, Manchester had its own mills. Cotton was very important in the 19th century and there was a saying "England's bread hangs by Lancashire's thread" and Manchester was the centre of this activity. Even into the 1970s there were warehouses bordering Piccadilly, Manchester's main square. The largest of these were then developed into restaurants and hotels. Audrey ----- Original Message ----- From: "L B Hansen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:14 AM Subject: Re: [OEL] MARIAGE FEES CATHEDRALS > Eve - I have ancestors who went to Manchester in that time period. Do you > mind if I ask why people were moving there? Linda > > Eve McLaughlin <[email protected]> wrote: In the early C19, > Manchester was expanding rapidly, > -- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. > > > ==== OLD-ENGLISH Mailing List ==== > OLD-ENGLISH Web Page > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~oel/ > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: 28/07/2006 > >