In reply to the land tax and church tithes, land tax was assessed from c1692 to 1832 at the usual rate of 4 shillings in the £. Many of these tax lists can be found in county archives and are important historical documents. They usually give owner, occupier, type of either land or property inc works, windmill, house garden arable etc. as well as the measurement and value of tax paid. Tithes were charged by the Established Church Only, not non-conformists and usually it was a Rectory. As the Rector as part of his income was his Glebe, he would certainly not pay tithes but remember tithes was not a tax it was based upon either minerals dug from the ground, ie coal or the product of the land either grown or living upon it, ie, pigs, chickens etc. This lasted although not in all areas until the Tithe computation Act of 1836 which the last mentioned was calculated in money terms and not one egg in every ten laid. By this time many land owners had purchased as a one off payment to the church any further annual payments. Many issues around Tithes as by this time with the rise in non-conformity, it was resented and much social unrest that the Church of England should benefit against the others churches. This is a really good subject to study in depth. Richard Talbot

Richard, Very interesting! For us Yanks could you explain "4 shillings in the £." Is this the same as saying 4 shillings? Allen Peterson -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 7:26 AM Subject: [OEL] Land tax In reply to the land tax and church tithes, land tax was assessed from c1692 to 1832 at the usual rate of 4 shillings in the £. Many of these tax lists can be found in county archives and are important historical documents. They usually give owner, occupier, type of either land or property inc works, windmill, house garden arable etc. as well as the measurement and value of tax paid. Tithes were charged by the Established Church Only, not non-conformists and usually it was a Rectory. As the Rector as part of his income was his Glebe, he would certainly not pay tithes but remember tithes was not a tax it was based upon either minerals dug from the ground, ie coal or the product of the land either grown or living upon it, ie, pigs, chickens etc. This lasted although not in all areas until the Tithe computation Act of 1836 which the last mentioned was calculated in money terms and not one egg in every ten laid. By this time many land owners had purchased as a one off payment to the church any further annual payments. Many issues around Tithes as by this time with the rise in non-conformity, it was resented and much social unrest that the Church of England should benefit against the others churches. This is a really good subject to study in depth. Richard Talbot ================= Web Page: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~oel/ ================= ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

Hi Allen and others It means 4 shillings for every pound being taxed - there were 20 shillings in the pound and so this means 20% tax. Liz P > >Richard, > >Very interesting! For us Yanks could you explain "4 shillings in the >£." Is this the same as saying 4 shillings? > >Allen Peterson > >In reply to the land tax and church tithes, land tax was assessed from >c1692 >to 1832 at the usual rate of 4 shillings in the £. Many of these tax >lists >can be found in county archives and are important historical documents. >They >usually give owner, occupier, type of either land or property inc >works, >windmill, house garden arable etc. as well as the measurement and value >of >tax paid. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™ Messenger has arrived. Click here to download it for free! http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/?locale=en-gb

Thanks for the em. Before I think 1971 our currency was very different. Each pound was divided into pence. There were 120 pence to the pound. These were divided into 12 each twelve pence was called a shilling, so there were 20 shillings to the £. When we priced anything the price was in £ shilling and pence i.e.: £1 13s 6d (the d was the mark for a penny) but we not mark our pence as a p and has a different value that the d as there are now only 100 pence to the £ I am sure this will confuse you and many others, but is no different from our measurement of inches, there being 12 in one foot and three of these feet make one yard. Therefore there are 36 inches in each yard, we measure therefore in Yards, feet and inches. This is the old imperial system that anyone over probably the age of 35 would prefer to work than the metric system of today. To many the change in currency was the perfect opportunity for traders and manufacturers to up there prices and all failed to appreciate the value of the new money compared with the old. Hope this help all those out there who are at a total loss of our old imperial system. All we want now is to join the Euro and that we confuse us all over again. Regards Richard Talbot ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [OEL] Land tax Richard, Very interesting! For us Yanks could you explain "4 shillings in the £." Is this the same as saying 4 shillings? Allen Peterson -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 7:26 AM Subject: [OEL] Land tax In reply to the land tax and church tithes, land tax was assessed from c1692 to 1832 at the usual rate of 4 shillings in the £. Many of these tax lists can be found in county archives and are important historical documents. They usually give owner, occupier, type of either land or property inc works, windmill, house garden arable etc. as well as the measurement and value of tax paid. Tithes were charged by the Established Church Only, not non-conformists and usually it was a Rectory. As the Rector as part of his income was his Glebe, he would certainly not pay tithes but remember tithes was not a tax it was based upon either minerals dug from the ground, ie coal or the product of the land either grown or living upon it, ie, pigs, chickens etc. This lasted although not in all areas until the Tithe computation Act of 1836 which the last mentioned was calculated in money terms and not one egg in every ten laid. By this time many land owners had purchased as a one off payment to the church any further annual payments. Many issues around Tithes as by this time with the rise in non-conformity, it was resented and much social unrest that the Church of England should benefit against the others churches. This is a really good subject to study in depth. Richard Talbot ================= Web Page: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~oel/ ================= ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.9/573 - Release Date: 05/12/2006 16:07

Richard wrote: "Before I think 1971 our currency was very different. Each pound was divided into pence. There were 120 pence to the pound. These were divided into 12 each twelve pence was called a shilling, so there were 20 shillings to the £" Cor Richard, you have a bt internet email address, means Britain. Maths was a very weak subject with me,, but 20 shillings x 12 pence equals 240 old d to the £. Will suggest you for new chancellor. Jo.