Hello, I'm usually just a lurker on this list - gleaning lots of valuable information from the various exchanges. I've recently been working with Manor court records from the East Dereham, Norfolk area. There are two words that keep recurring that I'm having difficulty with, and request the list's assistance in helping me understand. The first is Stey or Stye. It appears in reference to Elsing Stey or Elsing Stye. In later records, the word is written Style. Also used as in Elsing Stey Way. It sounds as if this must be some sort of path as several properties are described as abutting upon Elsing Stey. The 2nd word is Carr. I've found one definition which seems to describe a rocky outcrop, but then a Google Search leads to Dillington Carr which seems to be some unique ecosystem which sounds more like an American Swamp than a rocky outcrop. I appreciate any clues. Thank you very much. Jennifer Clark

Good Evening - CARR .m is in the Anglo-Saxon dictionary meaning 'Stone or Rock', sourced from The Northumbrian Gospels; it also states that it has a [Keltic] connection. The Middle English has a word "STYH" which refers to a spelling "STIE" meaning 'Climb' - this would seem to be a better thought than Styles which comes from the Latin 'Stylus' meaning an iron pencil for writing on wax tablets etc; I suppose one might say "The Elsing Climb" etc;? Kind Regards Roy LD Cox WEB: www.coxresearcher.com/index.htm Member of the Somerset Archealogical & Natural History Society No. 1066 (And All That!) http://www.sanhs.org -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 26 January 2007 19:33 To: [email protected] Subject: [OEL] Stey or Stye and Carr Hello, I'm usually just a lurker on this list - gleaning lots of valuable information from the various exchanges. I've recently been working with Manor court records from the East Dereham, Norfolk area. There are two words that keep recurring that I'm having difficulty with, and request the list's assistance in helping me understand. The first is Stey or Stye. It appears in reference to Elsing Stey or Elsing Stye. In later records, the word is written Style. Also used as in Elsing Stey Way. It sounds as if this must be some sort of path as several properties are described as abutting upon Elsing Stey. The 2nd word is Carr. I've found one definition which seems to describe a rocky outcrop, but then a Google Search leads to Dillington Carr which seems to be some unique ecosystem which sounds more like an American Swamp than a rocky outcrop. I appreciate any clues. Thank you very much. Jennifer Clark ==================================== WEB PAGE: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~oel/ ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=OLD-ENGLISH ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Jennifer, Well you now have a choice ! Bailey's Dictionary (pub 1753) does not show "Carr", but it does show "Carre" which it descibes as "Woody moist or boggy ground. A wood in a boggy place".The Shorter Oxford 3rd Ed. has it without the "e" . Apart from the OE meaning, "Rock", which it also quotes, there is a "local ME" meaning confirming Bailey's definition above, but adding "A pool; a fen; now usually wet or boggy ground". The Shorter Oxford gives "sty" or "stie" as "to ascend, rise or climb" Jim Halsey On 1/26/07, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm usually just a lurker on this list - gleaning lots of valuable > information from the various exchanges. > > I've recently been working with Manor court records from the East Dereham, > Norfolk area. There are two words that keep recurring that I'm having > difficulty with, and request the list's assistance in helping > me understand. > > The first is Stey or Stye. It appears in reference to Elsing Stey > or Elsing > Stye. In later records, the word is written Style. Also used as in > Elsing > Stey Way. It sounds as if this must be some sort of path as several > properties are described as abutting upon Elsing Stey. > > The 2nd word is Carr. I've found one definition which seems to describe > a > rocky outcrop, but then a Google Search leads to Dillington Carr which > seems > to be some unique ecosystem which sounds more like an American Swamp than > a > rocky outcrop.