Are they pennies? Audrey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [OEL] 1861 will problems > That’s excellent - Had the - "Denari" - the same value I wonder as we > sometimes see in early English wills? > > > Kind Regards > Roy LD Cox > Family Historian > Member of SA&NHS Member No. 1066 (And all That!) Web Site: > www.coxresearcher.com/index.htm I also use www.archivecdbooks.com and > www.localhistory.co.uk/ambra for my research > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christopher M > Richards > Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 12:03 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [OEL] 1861 will problems > > I had a further thought - translated Ounce into Italian "Oncia" and then > found this via Google: > > The Kingdom of Two Sicilies was formed by the merger of the Kingdom of > Sicily and the Kingdom of Naples on December 8, 1816. Before 1800, Sicily > had used the Oncia (XITO) as their unit of account from the 1500s until > occupation by France in 1806. The Oncia was divisible into 2.5 Scudi, 5 > Fiorini, 30 Tari, 60 Carlini, 450 Ponti, 600 Grani or 3600 Piccioli. > Naples > had relied on the Ducato (XITD) as its unit of account from the 1500s > until > the 1800s. The Ducato was divisible into 5 Tarini, 10 Carlini, 40 > Cinquini, > 100 Grani, 200 Tornesi, 300 Quatrini, 600 Piccioli or 1200 Denari > > So what I thought was tazi is actually tari. Unlike oncia and grani it > doesn't have an English equivalent so it wasn't translated. > > Christopher > > Roy wrote: >> Good Morning - >> >> Sounds like gold or silver to me - [Fourteen thousand and twenty >> eight o??nces] ounces? >> >> I think this may be TROY weight used for these minerals, but 'tazi' >> doesn't make sense. >> >> Grains are used in this measure and that of Apothecaries. >> >> >> Kind Regards >> Roy LD Cox >> Family Historian >> Member of SA&NHS Member No. 1066 (And all That!) Web Site: >> www.coxresearcher.com/index.htm I also use www.archivecdbooks.com and >> www.localhistory.co.uk/ambra for my research -----Original >> Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christopher M >> Richards >> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 11:34 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [OEL] 1861 will problems >> >> This is the will of Benjamin Ingham, made in Palermo in 1861 and >> proved there but then proved again in London in 1871. This is from the > London copy. >> The extract reads: >> >> Article 6 >> >> I give and bequeath to Don Frederico Ascenso e Spadafora Duke of Santa >> Rosalia another son of my said Wife by her first husband and to the >> said Don Gar??olo and Don Domenico Ascenso e Spadafora the sun of >> Fourteen thousand and twenty eight o??nces ten tazi and ten grains (?) >> in the proportion between them as hereinafter stated and with right of >> ------ >> ------ between them in case that any one cannot or will not accept the >> present legacy and with the positive prohibition of not being >> susceptible of ?????? not assignment nor even of being ?????ed. to wit >> ??? first ??? Duke of Santa Rosalia the sum of four thousand /Ounces/ >> in usufruct only to be enjoyed for the whole term of his natural life >> the Ownership in reversion I give and bequeath to his daughter Donna >> Francesca Ascenso Duchess of ______ wife of Don >> >> The extract is posted at: >> http://www.cmr1chards.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/transcription.htm >> >> My main question is what the currency is? By 1861 The Bourbon Kingdom >> of the Two Sicilies had been defeated by Garibaldi but the will states >> that it was the will of Benjamin Ingham resident of Palermo in the >> Kingdom of the two Sicilies so he is probably still using the curency of > the that Kingdom. >> Google hasn't helped so far with this. >> >> Christopher Richards >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.16/504 - Release Date: >> 27/10/2006 >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.16/504 - Release Date: > 27/10/2006 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.16/504 - Release Date: > 27/10/2006 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. 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