This doesn't seem to have made it so I am resending - I think I sent from the wrong address I have several dictionaries/books on surnames and none include this one. The nearest is Crump - listed in both Patronymica Brittannia - by Mark Lower and published in 1860 - (which also lists Crum and says for the latter see Croom). Lower defines Crump Belgic crom, uncus. Crooked, in relation to personal deformity. "Crumpt or Crookkt." Nomenclator, p 44 Halliwell The other book is vol 1, Surnames of the United Kingdom, a concise etymological dictionary by Henry Harrison, published 1912 He lists Crump - crooked [M.E. crump(e, O.E. crump, crumb] Richard le Crumpe - Hund. Rolls cp. Crimp and Cramp Crumplen (Celt) Bel. to 1 Crumlin Crumplin (Monmouth) = the crooked lake [Welsh crwm, crooked + llvn, a lake] 2 crumlin (Ireland) = the crooked glen [Ir (four masters) Cruim-ghlinn - ghlinn, asp. Form of Ir gleann, a glen, valley] Ros -----Original Message----- From: old-english-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:old-english-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tompkins, M.L.L. Sent: 05 March 2009 07:16 To: old-english@rootsweb.com Subject: [OEL] Crumplehere the surname Craig, have you ever come across an explanation of the surname Crumpler, originally Crumplehere. Does anyone have an explanation for it? Reaney and Wilson's Dictionary of English Surnames doesn't include it. The surname seems to have two elements, though I'm unsure whether the first element is 'crump' or 'crumple'. Either way my guess is that it is either the OE and ME word cromb, cromp, meaning 'hook', 'crook', or 'bent', 'crooked', 'twisted', or 'cromple', a word derived from it. If the second part were 'hair', then the whole would mean something like 'crumpled hair' or 'tangled hair'. Matt ==================================== WEB PAGE: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~oel/ ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=OLD-ENGLISH ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OLD-ENGLISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Joining in without having looked at any origins of names books, I have a suggestion to make. Could it possibly be approached through the occupation route? That is, could there be an industry or craft called crumpling and workers called crumplers? Audrey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ros" <harbro.town@ntlworld.com> To: <old-english@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 12:40 PM Subject: [OEL] FW: Crumplehere the surname > > > This doesn't seem to have made it so I am resending - I think I sent from > the wrong address > > I have several dictionaries/books on surnames and none include this one. > > The nearest is Crump - listed in both Patronymica Brittannia - by Mark > Lower > and published in 1860 - (which also lists Crum and says for the latter see > Croom). > > Lower defines Crump Belgic crom, uncus. Crooked, in relation to personal > deformity. "Crumpt or Crookkt." Nomenclator, p 44 Halliwell > > The other book is vol 1, Surnames of the United Kingdom, a concise > etymological dictionary by Henry Harrison, published 1912 > > He lists > Crump - crooked [M.E. crump(e, O.E. crump, crumb] Richard le Crumpe - > Hund. Rolls cp. Crimp and Cramp > Crumplen (Celt) Bel. to 1 Crumlin > Crumplin (Monmouth) = the crooked lake [Welsh crwm, crooked + llvn, a > lake] > 2 crumlin (Ireland) = the crooked glen [Ir (four masters) Cruim-ghlinn - > ghlinn, asp. Form of Ir gleann, a glen, valley] > > > Ros > > > -----Original Message----- > From: old-english-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:old-english-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tompkins, M.L.L. > Sent: 05 March 2009 07:16 > To: old-english@rootsweb.com > Subject: [OEL] Crumplehere the surname > > Craig, have you ever come across an explanation of the surname Crumpler, > originally Crumplehere. Does anyone have an explanation for it? Reaney > and > Wilson's Dictionary of English Surnames doesn't include it. > > The surname seems to have two elements, though I'm unsure whether the > first > element is 'crump' or 'crumple'. Either way my guess is that it is either > the OE and ME word cromb, cromp, meaning 'hook', 'crook', or 'bent', > 'crooked', 'twisted', or 'cromple', a word derived from it. If the second > part were 'hair', then the whole would mean something like 'crumpled > hair' > or 'tangled hair'. > > Matt > > > ==================================== > WEB PAGE: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~oel/ > ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=OLD-ENGLISH > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OLD-ENGLISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ==================================== > WEB PAGE: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~oel/ > ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=OLD-ENGLISH > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OLD-ENGLISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1989 - Release Date: 03/07/09 18:43:00