Well OK, my bad, but it got me posting again and I'm sure you'll forgive me for not realising/remembering that the list, unlike most, is still set up for individual replies. Fear not, I'll go back into hiding for another five years. John > >I got both of these so think you did. > >Audrey > >I have feeling that soon Judith will put a stop to this string of >communications because it's not much to do with Old English as such. It was >partly because of an interest of mine and partly because no-one appeared to >be communicating. So, sorry in advance Judith and hope you will forgive the >slight diversification. > >Audrey > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <john.holden3@lineone.net> >To: <OLD-ENGLISH-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 12:17 AM >Subject: Re: [OEL] Racecourses and cathedrals > > >> >> Hm strange reply all, thought I'd posted this to all but I was wrong, >> here it is again:- >> >> I know of three race courses in Manchester, actually two of them were >> in Salford, Kersal vale and a later that was lost to the extension of >> Manchester docks around 1900 though technically in Salford. >> A third in Kirkmanshulme that was never actually in Manchester. >> None could be described as being even remotely close to Manchester >> Cathedral, or even the Manchester parish church. >> >> John. >> >>> >>>That sounds a good idea. Of course, you do have also to look at >> topography. >>>As Barbara says, there are also those that appear to buck the trend, >> such as >>>Ely. Incidentally, we did also go to Ely. We just couldn't do >> cathedrals and >>>miss that glorious building out. Perhaps there was a race course >> there at >>>some time that has sunk beneath the mud? As I've just written to >> Barbara and >>>forgot to post to list (sorry), there was once a race course in the >> middle >>>of Manchester but Manchester Cathedral would still have been only a >>>collegiate church at that time, only having been comparatively >> recently >>>elevated to the status of cathedral. I also think that Barbara's idea >> of the >>>PhD might be a runner? >>> >>>As for me, I'm going to York Races soon and may or may not visit the >>>minster, having done this before. However, we did miss out the race >> course >>>on our tour as there wasn't a meeting on at that time. We did make >> an >>>overall win, using only minimum bets, that provided us with a good >> evening >>>meal before we arrived back home. I really could recommend the idea. >>> >>>Audrey >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Tompkins, M.L.L." <mllt1@leicester.ac.uk> >>>To: <OLD-ENGLISH-L@rootsweb.com> >>>Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 1:31 PM >>>Subject: Re: [OEL] Racecourses and cathedrals >>> >>> >>>> <<My question then and now is why do so many cathedrals have race >> courses >>>> nearby and the converse, why have so many race courses established >>>> themselves close to cathedrals? Can anyone help with this puzzle >> of >>>> mine?>> >>>> >>>> My guess would be (and it's just a guess) that race courses were >> usually >>>> set up in county towns and other similar places, because those were >> places >>>> where people, especially the horse-owning and -racing classes, >> tended to >>>> gather (for all sorts of reasons, administrative, legal, >> commercial, >>>> social) - and most cathedral cities were exactly that kind of >> place. >>>> >>>> Matt Tompkins >>>> >>>> >>>> ==================================== >>>> WEB PAGE: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~oel/ >>>> ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=OLD-ENGLISH >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> OLD-ENGLISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>> Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: - Release Date: <unknown> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>==================================== >>>WEB PAGE: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~oel/ >>>ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=OLD-ENGLISH >>> >>>------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OLD-ENGLISH- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Protect your PC with 50% off Norton Security - >> http://www.tiscali.co.uk/securepc >> _______________________________________________________________________ >> >> >> >> ==================================== >> WEB PAGE: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~oel/ >> ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=OLD-ENGLISH >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> OLD-ENGLISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: - Release Date: <unknown> >> >> Protect your PC with 50% off Norton Security - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/securepc _______________________________________________________________________