I thought of some more-- Speaking of air conditioning - the first department store to have it was Sears down on 6th and Boulder (it was freezing). There was also Rainbow Bread. How about the swimming pools There was one over in West Tulsa or Red Fork-- remember the name? Also one going out toward Sand Springs line? The other one was "Riverside Park" Swimming pool, picnic tables, baseball field and open air dance hall at 71st and Peoria (my grandfather owned this one). I lived at 62nd and Trenton and could hear the Big Band music from there. Those were really swimming pools (Huge) !!! Joan

How about Ike's Chile Parlor -- best ever... Brown Dunkin & Vandevers, with their elevators with a operator "Going up!" Frougs with their volume tubes to take the money up to the office, Newberrys, Woolsworth and Kress fountains (yummy sodas) and lunch with the stools. Joan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Haas Davenport" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 4:09 AM Subject: [OKTULSA] A stroll down Memory Lane > I'm sure some of you are probably also subscribed to the OK list but for > those of you who are not ..... this stroll down memory lane was posted > there. I thought you all might want to stroll with us <g> > ************** > > Dear Linda..I have been trying to think of the names of the theaters we > had early Tulsa...I can remembe THE RITZ,,THE RIALTO.....THE > ORHEUM(sp)....THE GEM AND THE MAJESTIC..... > I know there was one south and 2 north ..1 by the vidock and 1 by Dick > Bordens I think...can you help me?? will appeciate it...thank you nanny > su > > > How about the Delman at 15th and Lewis. And the Tulsa at > 2nd and Main Street (early 50's); the Tower at 11th and > Denver. There were two on East 11th, but I don't recall their > names...but I think one was Will Rogers. It was at 11th and > Sandusky(?). The other one was at 11th and Atlanta, by Wilson > Jr High School. I'm on a roll...The Plaza at 15th and Peoria. Oh, > there was one at Admiral and Lewis (Whittier Square), the first > to open away from downtown, by the name of Circle Theater. > These were more or less neighborhood theaters. There were > two on the Main Street viaduct in the mid 50's, Uptown and Cozy. > If I'm not mistaken there was one more, not sure of its location, > but near downtown Tulsa, called the Lyric Theatre that closed > in the early '40's and was demolished in the 1970's. This was > before my time...early 1940's. > > Thanks for a stroll down memory lane... > M. Davidson > [email protected] > > <from Linda> > Thanks a million "M"! Oh yes I remember almost all of them ... but what > about the Drive-Ins? The Admiral Twin was the one I went to the most but > there several more. The first one I remember was out on Apache. The Admiral > Twin is still standing - I passed it the other day. > > > I'm trying to remember the name of the drive in on Apache... I do remember > the Capri, Bellaire, AirView(?), and SkyView or SkyLine... Remember > kids sneaking into a drive-in in the trunk of a car? Not me, I was chicken > little. I remember one car that had stow-aways in the trunk. The car was > so low back that it nearly touched the pavement when it drove in, and normal > when it drove out. Of course, I think the fad in late 50's and early > sixties was to have a car that had a low rearend and the front was tilted > upward. I don't know how anyone could see where they were going! My > brother put bricks in the trunk of his car to get that effect. He also got > caught driving > sneaks into a drive-in. > ~~~~~ > And do you remember the grandeur of those downtown movie theaters - the > red velvet curtains - the plush chairs - the ushers - the balcony - the > thick carpet. None of the modern movie theaters can come close to those old > ones. > > > I don't remember which one it was, but I'm thinking it was the Ritz Theater > that had an ambience of being outdoors...look up and see stars. I thought > that was so dreamy, and so much cooler than a drive-in. However, I wish I > could have seen an actual vaudaville act before the theaters turned into > movie houses/picture shows. Remember, the theaters were the first > public buildings to be air-conditioned. We dressed up to go to the movies. > Heck, we dressed up to go shopping. > ~~~~~~~ > While we are strolling <g> .... Pennington's, Cotton's .... Saturday nights > ... Stuffed ourselves on burgers, onion rings and gallons of cherry (or > vanilla) cokes all to the sounds of rock 'n roll. > > > Oh yes, anyone who was 'anyone' had to at least drive through Pennington's. > The guys showing off their cars... > ~~~~~~~~ > Or .... the Wonder Bread Bakery .... (You could smell the fresh baked bread > "a mile away") ..... or Easter Sunrise Service in Chandler Park ... or > Skyline Park in Jenks ... Wandering thru Woolworth & Kress downtown ..... > Saturday night dances at Teenation or the "Y" ..... remember any of those? > > Saturday morning for me "back then" was catching the bus and going down > town. Movie was a dime, 6 donut "holes" and a large milk was a nickel. Then > to the movie then a nice long browse thru Woolworth and Kress and it was > time to catch the bus home. Can you even imagine turning a 10-12 year old > loose like that now days? > > ******** > Hope you enjoyed our short stroll down memory lane. Anyone have any memories > of Tulsa they are willing to share? > > > Linda > homepage: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas > MarionCoAR: http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion/ > TulsaCoOK: http://www.rootsweb.com/~oktulsa2 > MuskogeeCoOk: http://www.rootsweb.com/~okmuskog > SurnameLists: H.A.A.S/H.A.S.S. L.E.W.A.L.L.E.N > > ______________________________

I am trying to locate an obit or any information on E. B. Sargent "Eddie" who died in Tulsa, OK in 1963 according to his mothers Obituary. He ws born in Kansas in Nov 1871. most of the boys moved to Idaho abt. 1903 plus or minus and their mother moved out there after their father Story L. Sargent died in Jun 1910. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Kansas John

I'm sure some of you are probably also subscribed to the OK list but for those of you who are not ..... this stroll down memory lane was posted there. I thought you all might want to stroll with us <g> ************** Dear Linda..I have been trying to think of the names of the theaters we had early Tulsa...I can remembe THE RITZ,,THE RIALTO.....THE ORHEUM(sp)....THE GEM AND THE MAJESTIC..... I know there was one south and 2 north ..1 by the vidock and 1 by Dick Bordens I think...can you help me?? will appeciate it...thank you nanny su How about the Delman at 15th and Lewis. And the Tulsa at 2nd and Main Street (early 50's); the Tower at 11th and Denver. There were two on East 11th, but I don't recall their names...but I think one was Will Rogers. It was at 11th and Sandusky(?). The other one was at 11th and Atlanta, by Wilson Jr High School. I'm on a roll...The Plaza at 15th and Peoria. Oh, there was one at Admiral and Lewis (Whittier Square), the first to open away from downtown, by the name of Circle Theater. These were more or less neighborhood theaters. There were two on the Main Street viaduct in the mid 50's, Uptown and Cozy. If I'm not mistaken there was one more, not sure of its location, but near downtown Tulsa, called the Lyric Theatre that closed in the early '40's and was demolished in the 1970's. This was before my time...early 1940's. Thanks for a stroll down memory lane... M. Davidson [email protected] <from Linda> Thanks a million "M"! Oh yes I remember almost all of them ... but what about the Drive-Ins? The Admiral Twin was the one I went to the most but there several more. The first one I remember was out on Apache. The Admiral Twin is still standing - I passed it the other day. > I'm trying to remember the name of the drive in on Apache... I do remember the Capri, Bellaire, AirView(?), and SkyView or SkyLine... Remember kids sneaking into a drive-in in the trunk of a car? Not me, I was chicken little. I remember one car that had stow-aways in the trunk. The car was so low back that it nearly touched the pavement when it drove in, and normal when it drove out. Of course, I think the fad in late 50's and early sixties was to have a car that had a low rearend and the front was tilted upward. I don't know how anyone could see where they were going! My brother put bricks in the trunk of his car to get that effect. He also got caught driving sneaks into a drive-in. ~~~~~ And do you remember the grandeur of those downtown movie theaters - the red velvet curtains - the plush chairs - the ushers - the balcony - the thick carpet. None of the modern movie theaters can come close to those old ones. > I don't remember which one it was, but I'm thinking it was the Ritz Theater that had an ambience of being outdoors...look up and see stars. I thought that was so dreamy, and so much cooler than a drive-in. However, I wish I could have seen an actual vaudaville act before the theaters turned into movie houses/picture shows. Remember, the theaters were the first public buildings to be air-conditioned. We dressed up to go to the movies. Heck, we dressed up to go shopping. ~~~~~~~ While we are strolling <g> .... Pennington's, Cotton's .... Saturday nights ... Stuffed ourselves on burgers, onion rings and gallons of cherry (or vanilla) cokes all to the sounds of rock 'n roll. > Oh yes, anyone who was 'anyone' had to at least drive through Pennington's. The guys showing off their cars... ~~~~~~~~ Or .... the Wonder Bread Bakery .... (You could smell the fresh baked bread "a mile away") ..... or Easter Sunrise Service in Chandler Park ... or Skyline Park in Jenks ... Wandering thru Woolworth & Kress downtown ..... Saturday night dances at Teenation or the "Y" ..... remember any of those? Saturday morning for me "back then" was catching the bus and going down town. Movie was a dime, 6 donut "holes" and a large milk was a nickel. Then to the movie then a nice long browse thru Woolworth and Kress and it was time to catch the bus home. Can you even imagine turning a 10-12 year old loose like that now days? ******** Hope you enjoyed our short stroll down memory lane. Anyone have any memories of Tulsa they are willing to share? Linda homepage: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas MarionCoAR: http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion/ TulsaCoOK: http://www.rootsweb.com/~oktulsa2 MuskogeeCoOk: http://www.rootsweb.com/~okmuskog SurnameLists: H.A.A.S/H.A.S.S. L.E.W.A.L.L.E.N

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/EZB.2ACE/71.274 Message Board Post: Noticed that you are looking for relatives of John and Laura Summers. It is a long shot, but my grandparents, John and Laura Summers, lived somewhere in Oklahoma for a short time period before the 1930's. One of John's brothers lived there, I believe either George Christain or William Ulrich and I was looking for them. They are son's of Ulrich Sommers, who lived in Iowa and Nebraska. None of John and Laura's children stayed in that area. Terry

If a picture is worth a thousand words then I've just uploaded several thousand words<g>. Photo gallery is now up and on-line. Lots of photos of early Tulsa and Tulsans. May be broken links since I still haven't finished checking all of them - but you can make a start anyway. Drop by "What's New" to see what else is up. Enjoy http://www.rootsweb.com/~oktulsa2 Linda homepage: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas MarionCoAR: http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion/ TulsaCoOK: http://www.rootsweb.com/~oktulsa2 MuskogeeCoOk: http://www.rootsweb.com/~okmuskog SurnameLists: H.A.A.S/H.A.S.S. L.E.W.A.L.L.E.N

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Krause/Cole Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/EZB.2ACE/615 Message Board Post: Looking for descendents and information--couple married 1907 in Platte City, Mo. Emilie Augusta died 1928 or 29 in Tulsa area and is buried there.

I am in the process of bringing up a new Tulsa Co web page. Right now it's pretty bare boned but I'll get information up as quickly as possible. For this site to grow and be of value to visitors I am asking for help from everyone who has an interest in Tulsa county. My Marion Co site is huge due to a lot of help from the folks researching in Marion Co. I'd like to see the Tulsa site be the same way. (Interested in what Marion Co has? http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion/) At this time I have completed the book: The Beginning of Tulsa by J M Hall. The last section of this book is brief sketches on early Tulsa residents. Please drop by: http://www.rootsweb.com/~oktulsa2/ Linda homepage: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas MarionCoAR: http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion/ TulsaCoOK: http://www.rootsweb.com/~oktulsa2/ MuskogeeCoOK: http://www.rootsweb.com/~okmuskog/ SurnameLists: H.A.A.S/H.A.S.S. L.E.W.A.L.L.E.N

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Walker , Puckett , Stacy , Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/EZB.2ACE/614 Message Board Post: Can anyone tell me where my Aunt Katie Jane (Walker) Puckett is burried at. She lived in Tulsa at the time of her death,but she lived in Okmugee , befor her death.She was born Dec.1899 Joplin, MO. , died abt 1972 she had one daughter , her name is Mary Stacy ( Puckett).She had several grandchildren.If you can help please let me know thank You Shirley

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Taylor , Walker Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/EZB.2ACE/613 Message Board Post: Could someone give me the cementary where my sister is burried.Her name was Anna Margret Taylor born 1923,Mt Vernon,Lawerence CO. , MO.died November 1926 she died from a freak accident,fell into hot wash water while playing tag.Her mother was Emma (Jane) Evelyn (Walker) Taylor born July 14 ,1895 Joplin , MO. Father was Homer (Omer) Wilson Taylor born June 9 , 1892 Polk CO. , MO. at the time of her death she had 4 siblings older then her ,they were Wilma Florence,Juanita Marie , Earl Wilson , Milford Charles,all born in Missouri same place as her.Mother gave birth to my brother Gene Edward the day she was burried . If anyone can help please email me at [email protected] Thank You Shirley

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Jones Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/EZB.2ACE/612 Message Board Post: I am in desperate need of an obituary: Christabel Jones died January 20, 1993 Tulsa, Oklahoma Can anyone please help me? I am willing to do Ohio look-ups in exchange, if needed. Tina Kutschbach [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hobbs Morris Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/EZB.2ACE/611 Message Board Post: I am looking for family of Laura Hobbs Morris or Thelma Hobbs. both died in Tulsa Co. Laura was Thelma's mother. Laura was born late 1800's in IT.. Laura was first married to a Mr Hobbs they had several children. Later in life after she was a widow Laura married Mr Morris. She died in 1960's. Laura's maiden name was Walden or Wallen or something close to that. My husband's grandmother was Laura sister. I do not know if Thelma married or what her last name might be. Thank you for any information. Ann

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Phelan,Hawkins Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/EZB.2ACE/610 Message Board Post: Looking for any info on Charles J. Phelan and family. Lived in Red Fork,Tulsa,Ok. in 1910 Census. Children;Walter, Mammie and Robert. Wife Mary and Mother-in-law Mary J. Hawkins living with family in 1900 Noble County,Ok. Both gone from family in 1910 in Tulsa County.Thank you for any info.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cross Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/EZB.2ACE/608 Message Board Post: Hi, I am looking for descendants of my great uncle Homer Cross. He was in the military, worked as a policeman and worked for McDonald Douglas in Tulsa. He was born Oct. 25, 1891 and died Jan. 1966. I am the grandaughter of Nellie (Cross) Sexton, his sister. I do have some pictures of Homer and some poetry that were found among my grandmother's things and I would like to send a copy to his family. Thank You Jackie Smith

Hello, > I am doing research on my husband's family and am trying to find out > whatever happened to his father's sister. Her name was Naomi Nauenburg > and she married a man by the name of Elmer BROTHERS who we believe lived > in the Tulsa area. This would've probably been in the mid to late > 1940's or early 1950's. They had two children, I believe, and then they > divorced. I am not sure, but the children may have stayed with the > father. I have had good luck using Rootsweb in research of my family so > thought that I would try and break down this "brick wall" the same > way. Thank you for any help that you could give. > > Nancy Nauenburg > > email [email protected]

Here is a message from one of the USGenWeb Advisory Board Members who attended an information session on the 1930 census records: " I spent today at the San Bruno CA NARA branch attending a training day for volunteers who need to be equipped to help folks use the 1930 Census when it comes out in April.... First comment.... it ain't gonna be easy. Only 11 southern states are soundexed and there is no indexing. This means folks will have to use city guides and maps to identify enumeration districts, etc. The preliminary process was averaging one hour per record today.... daunting to say the least." Here is a site that will help you find the information you will need for Enumeration districts as well as some other information. http://home.pacbell.net/spmorse/census/ Linda homepage: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas MarionCoAR: http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion/ SurnameLists: H.A.A.S/H.A.S.S. L.E.W.A.L.L.E.N

Hello, Tulsa! Looking for the descendants of George W. AUSTIN & Mattie Pearl HERNDON. George was b. MS and was the Superintendent of Schools in Wagoner between 1911-1914, and was President of the Oklahoma College for Women (now the University of Science & Arts of Oklahoma) in Chickasha, Grady Co., OK, serving from 1914 until his death in 1926. Pearl was the Director of Residence Halls at the college from 1926 until 1958, and d. 1961 in Chickasha. . George and Pearl's children apparently were David M. AUSTIN, who may? have died young, and India or Indiana Miriam HUNT, who apprently went by her middle name, and married Cecil HUNT, an attorney in Tulsa, OK. Their reported children were David HUNT & Tulsa HUNT (male.) George Washington AUSTIN was the son of David Jones AUSTIN, a Methodist minister & teacher. Pearl was the daughter of Zachariah HERNDON & Indiana McMILLAN. Look forward to hearing from any descendants. I have the AUSTIN side of the family from 1660 to share with them, and I can put them in contact with researchers who have extensive information on Pearl's ancestry. Hope to hear from some descendants soon. Pam [email protected]

Still looking for brothers, Garl and Charles who were the brothers of our John SPAULDING sons of James Elliott SPAULDING and Margaret Emelia OBRYAN. Garl and Charles were listed on John's obituary in Nebraska "FALLS CITY JOURNAL, Monday, March 4, 1946" as living in Tulsa. Kindest regards from a wet and chilly Nebraska Charlene Spaulding Determination: Doing what I know in my heart is right and the courage to stand for what I believe in... against all odds!

Bridgett, Thank you much for the newspaper info. My grandfather was an interior decorator in Tulsa and vicinity and I just do not know where to go to find his place of business or the name he used for a business name. I do know that when first the Will Rogers Memorial was began that he was reported to me as doing the Saddle Room there. I know that it is in Claremore, could someone send me the address (please) so I could contact them and ask some questions? His name was Foy Earl Ballenger wife name of Ann. He is deceased at this time. I joined this list in hopes to get a line on him, as he lived in Tulsa for many yrs. Thank you for any info you can extend to me Beej in AZ In a message dated 2/8/02 10:02:06 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << From: [email protected] Subject: [OKTULSA] re: Tulsa Newspapers THis is a site I found. Http://www.ok-history.mus.ok.us/news/paper/tulsa-i.html These are papers for Tulsa County. Many you will find at the Oklahoma Historical Society in Oklahoma City. Brigette >>

Glenda, have you tried the LDS Family History Library? They have microfilmed state, county, city, hamlet records for many yrs. They have a mountain respository full of their work. No I am not LDS tho I have read of their extensive holdings. If what you desire is not in house they will order it from their archives in Salt Lake City. Beej in AZ In a message dated 2/8/02 10:02:06 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << From: <[email protected]> Subject: [OKTULSA] Property deed / Broken arrow I would like to get a deed for my Grandparents property in Broken Arrow around 1905 to1906 . I cant seem to come to Tulsa on a weekday when Courthouses are open . Dose anyone know if any of the libararies have deeds on film? Or any ideas how I could prove they were there before state hood . They are on 1910 cencus as Broken Arrow, but were not there in 1900. thanks Glenda >>