This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/EZB.2ACE/628.1.1 Message Board Post: Yes, I did attend the show. In fact I presented the traveling award. I was told there was an article and have never seen it. It just came to mind when I posted the question that it might still be able to be found. I know the photographer was there and took photo's etc.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/EZB.2ACE/641.1.1 Message Board Post: Keith, How I do appreciate this from you. How uncanny that the date of the entry on the newspaper was yesterday's date. I will keep a copy of your name and address should the extra $30.00 dollars fall my way!! I appreciate this so much. Interesting that they list the Father as Donald Adams. Her Father was David Claire West Adams. Her husband's name was Donald Hurst. I do know there is one chld as I have seen a post by her. Her name is Cindy Hurst-Potthast, but the email is evidently not effective at the time I tried to get a hold of her. Didn't know there were quite so many children. I do believe her death to be a suicide according to my Father, who is also deceased now. He was a brother to David Adams. Thanks Again, Carole Ann Adams Johnson Bullhead City, Az.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/EZB.2ACE/641.1 Message Board Post: (4-23-2002) Tulsa World Newspaper (4-22-1972) SHIRLEY JEWEL HURST, age 36 Survived by 2 sons, 5 daughters. Father, Donald Adams; Grandfather, J. A. Roberts. Graveside services. Tuesday 4:30 PM. Chelsea Cemetery. If you're interested, I can do further research on surviving relatives and get the death certificate for a $30.00 fee (US POST OFFICE MONEY ORDER ONLY). SINCERELY, KEITH NORTHINGTON P. O. BOX 3328 TULSA, OK 74101-3328

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/EZB.2ACE/619.1 Message Board Post: (4-23-2002) DEAR MR. MEWBOURN: Here is the information you requested: Tulsa World Newspaper (Sept. 19, 1967) MR. LOGAN C. CLAYCOMB Age 81-83, retired McDonnell-Douglass Co. employee, of 924 W. 24th St., died Sunday. Services 10:30 AM Tuesday, West Tulsa Methodist Church. Interment Floral Haven Tulsa Whisenhunt Colonial Funeral Home. Tulsa World Newspaper (March 17, 1967) JOSIE A. (MRS. LOGAN C.) CLAYCOMB Age 81. Survivors: Logan (her husband), Virginia McKenzie (her daughter), plus 3 sisters, 1 brother and 2 grandchildren. Services Friday, 2 PM. West Tulsa Methodist Church.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/EZB.2ACE/628.1 Message Board Post: (4-23-2002) DEAR REBECCA: No, there is no place on the Internet to search for this information. However, I did look it up on microfilm--and a brief article DOES exist. Exactly what specific information were you looking for--the entire article or something in the article? What is the reason you want this information? Either you have a very good memory or maybe you even attended the show!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/EZB.2ACE/636.1 Message Board Post: (4-23-2002) DEAR DAVID: You were right! Clarance did live in Tulsa. Around 1917, he was district supervisor for Gypsy Oil Co. here. In 1930, he was married to Mabel K. Siggins and was employed at another oil company, Mid Continent Petroleum, but for some unexplainable reason, his name is shown alternately as Clarence or Clair.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: ROGERS, SMITH, DRABEK Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/EZB.2ACE/643 Message Board Post: SSDI: Mary M. ROGERS born 04 Jul 1919 died 19 May 1992 Tulsa, Tulsa, Ok 74126 SSDI: Cleta ROGERS born 03 Sep 1916 died 20 Feb 1993 Tulsa, Tulsa, OK 74110 QUESTION: below are abstracts from the obituaries of my cousin Myles Fredrick Smith & his wife Grace [Drabek] Smith Does anyone know where I can get obituaries for the 2 persons I found in the SSDI records to see if they are the same persons named below....??? "SMITH Grace Drabek, age 90, OKC, died Wednesday after a brief illness. She was born April 26, 1896 in OKC. Survivors include her husband, Myles Frederick Smith of the home; a daughter, Mary Myles Rogers (Mrs. Cleta John Rogers) of OKC" "SMITH Myles Fredrick, 95, died Saturday, Nov 8, 1986, at his home. He was born Dec 15, 1890 in Cave Springs, GA. survived by his daughter, Mrs. Mary Myles (Cleta John) Rogers of OKC" I will deeply appreciate any information or suggestions! Kathye [Payne] Upham, Bogata, Texas

Maryann, You're very welcome. I have M1930-27, the Enumeration District Map microfilm, in my own research collection, and I used it along with two modern maps to locate the neighborhood you described on the Enumeration District Map. One was in "The Roads of Oklahoma" (Fredericksburg, TX: Shearer Publishing, 1997), which gives Section, Township and Range (also on the ED map), and the other was a street map I pulled from our local telephone directory. Because your old neighborhood was outside the Tulsa city limits in 1930, I used the one of the Tulsa County ED maps on M1930-27. The street descriptions were from my describing the outline of the ED, after I studied the map and highlighted the perimeters of a few EDs. I am studying Tulsa's ED's for an upcoming program on the 1930 census and for an article I'll be uploading soon, if all goes well, to the Tulsa Genealogical Society web site <www.tulsagenealogy.org>. Sincerely, Barbara Becker Meehan, CGRS, FTGS Tulsa Genealogical Society Editor and Co-Webmaster On Sunday, April 21, 2002, at 12:01 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Content-Type: text/plain > > OKTULSA-D Digest Volume 02 : Issue 35 > > Today's Topics: > #1 [OKTulsa] 1930 Census [[email protected]] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from OKTULSA-D, send a message to > > [email protected] > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > X-Message: #1 > Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 00:13:16 EDT > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Subject: [OKTulsa] 1930 Census > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > In a message dated 4/18/2002 9:01:44 PM Central Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > >> I don't think that even a modern map would help! The area you need was >> identified as Dawson on the Enumeration District Map of Tulsa County >> (NARA Microfilm Series M1930, Roll 27). This area was outside the city >> limits of Tulsa. >> >> The ED you need is 72-15, for part of Dawson Township. It is bordered >> by >> North 66th St. on the north, Peoria on the east, the Tulsa city limits >> on the south (roughly Apache) and the Tulsa/Osage county line on the >> west. Your old school was in the next ED to the west, 72-14. >> >> Barbara Becker Meehan, CGRS, FTGS >> Tulsa, Oklahoma > > > >> >> Thank you so very much Barbara. I am curious where you found the >> extended >> description of the boundaries though. However, based on the >> description >> you provided, I at least can now buy the CD. > > > Maryann Dixon Moseby

In a message dated 4/18/2002 9:01:44 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > I don't think that even a modern map would help! The area you need was > identified as Dawson on the Enumeration District Map of Tulsa County > (NARA Microfilm Series M1930, Roll 27). This area was outside the city > limits of Tulsa. > > The ED you need is 72-15, for part of Dawson Township. It is bordered by > North 66th St. on the north, Peoria on the east, the Tulsa city limits > on the south (roughly Apache) and the Tulsa/Osage county line on the > west. Your old school was in the next ED to the west, 72-14. > > Barbara Becker Meehan, CGRS, FTGS > Tulsa, Oklahoma > > Thank you so very much Barbara. I am curious where you found the extended > description of the boundaries though. However, based on the description > you provided, I at least can now buy the CD. Maryann Dixon Moseby

I have been asked where I found the descriptions of the boundaries for the new 1930 Census. I was sent a notice from Heritage Quest that said they were co-sponsoring a page for the purpose of trying to help those of us planning a trip to the Library for the purpose of looking up family in the 1930 Census. It is designed to cut down time required researching once we get to the library - or for those that plan to purchase some of the 1930 CDs/film, it is supposed to help you determine which of the rolls of film to purchase or review. That URL is located: <A HREF="http://www2.heritagequest.com/1930census/beginsearch.asp">NARA 1930 Census Microfilm Locator - Begin Search Page</A> http://www2.heritagequest.com/1930census/beginsearch.asp Good luck with your research! Maryann Dixon Moseby

Who would ever have thought that Dawson would include Turley. I guess I thought the ED would be much smaller. Linda homepage: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas MarionCoAR: http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion/ TulsaCoOK: http://www.rootsweb.com/~oktulsa2 MuskogeeCoOk: http://www.rootsweb.com/~okmuskog SurnameLists: H.A.A.S/H.A.S.S. L.E.W.A.L.L.E.N ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Meehan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 5:54 AM Subject: [OKTulsa] Re: OKTULSA-D Digest V02 #33 > Maryann, > > I don't think that even a modern map would help! The area you need was > identified as Dawson on the Enumeration District Map of Tulsa County > (NARA Microfilm Series M1930, Roll 27). This area was outside the city > limits of Tulsa. > > The ED you need is 72-15, for part of Dawson Township. It is bordered by > North 66th St. on the north, Peoria on the east, the Tulsa city limits > on the south (roughly Apache) and the Tulsa/Osage county line on the > west. Your old school was in the next ED to the west, 72-14. > > Barbara Becker Meehan, CGRS, FTGS > Tulsa, Oklahoma > > > On Tuesday, April 16, 2002, at 04:01 PM, [email protected] > wrote: > > > My parents lived almost in the "downtown" area of > > Turley. We lived about five blocks west of Peoria all of my childhood > > and my > > parents lived in the same house until 1962, when my father died. I > > walked to > > Cherokee to go to school and we lived close enough that, most days, I > > even > > walked home for lunch. The area in which we lived was in the area that > > is > > covered by the parameters for which you suggested I search. However, > > even > > knowing that, I was and am unable to determine which roll of film (on > > CD) I > > should buy. So many of the EDs were determined by where the railroad > > tracks > > and other landmarks were located, that I have been unable to find on the > > small map of the city that I still have in my possession. I guess I > > will > > just wait until July when I intend to go to Western OK for a family > > reunion. > > I can stop in at one of the Visitor's Centers when I get to the OK > > State Line > > and get a better map of Tulsa and surrounding areas. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Maryann, I don't think that even a modern map would help! The area you need was identified as Dawson on the Enumeration District Map of Tulsa County (NARA Microfilm Series M1930, Roll 27). This area was outside the city limits of Tulsa. The ED you need is 72-15, for part of Dawson Township. It is bordered by North 66th St. on the north, Peoria on the east, the Tulsa city limits on the south (roughly Apache) and the Tulsa/Osage county line on the west. Your old school was in the next ED to the west, 72-14. Barbara Becker Meehan, CGRS, FTGS Tulsa, Oklahoma On Tuesday, April 16, 2002, at 04:01 PM, [email protected] wrote: > My parents lived almost in the "downtown" area of > Turley. We lived about five blocks west of Peoria all of my childhood > and my > parents lived in the same house until 1962, when my father died. I > walked to > Cherokee to go to school and we lived close enough that, most days, I > even > walked home for lunch. The area in which we lived was in the area that > is > covered by the parameters for which you suggested I search. However, > even > knowing that, I was and am unable to determine which roll of film (on > CD) I > should buy. So many of the EDs were determined by where the railroad > tracks > and other landmarks were located, that I have been unable to find on the > small map of the city that I still have in my possession. I guess I > will > just wait until July when I intend to go to Western OK for a family > reunion. > I can stop in at one of the Visitor's Centers when I get to the OK > State Line > and get a better map of Tulsa and surrounding areas.

If you are willing to share the photo I'd love to have it for the Tulsa site. Linda homepage: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas MarionCoAR: http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion/ TulsaCoOK: http://www.rootsweb.com/~oktulsa2 MuskogeeCoOk: http://www.rootsweb.com/~okmuskog SurnameLists: H.A.A.S/H.A.S.S. L.E.W.A.L.L.E.N ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 8:22 PM Subject: [OKTulsa] Sand Springs in 1927-29 Elvis Barns > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/EZB.2ACE/642 > > Message Board Post: > > Anyone know of Mr Barns or anyone searching his family. Probably born abt 1913-15. Have picture of him with a young lady, taken abt 27-29, will share. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/EZB.2ACE/642 Message Board Post: Anyone know of Mr Barns or anyone searching his family. Probably born abt 1913-15. Have picture of him with a young lady, taken abt 27-29, will share.

In a message dated 4/15/2002 5:59:31 AM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > You probably will not find Turley listed as Turley anymore. Since you have > access to the ED see if you can find the area that includes 56th St North > and Peoria thru 86th Streeet North and Peoria. That's the area of North > Tulsa you'll find Turley listed in. > Linda, thank you for taking the time to write. I guess I didn't explain my dilemma very well. I am vaguely familiar with the area. I was raised in Turley and lived in Tulsa County until the late 1970s. However, I have gone through the descriptions of the areas covered by the five rolls of film for the 1930 Census with a fine tooth comb and cannot determine which one will cover the Turley area. My parents lived almost in the "downtown" area of Turley. We lived about five blocks west of Peoria all of my childhood and my parents lived in the same house until 1962, when my father died. I walked to Cherokee to go to school and we lived close enough that, most days, I even walked home for lunch. The area in which we lived was in the area that is covered by the parameters for which you suggested I search. However, even knowing that, I was and am unable to determine which roll of film (on CD) I should buy. So many of the EDs were determined by where the railroad tracks and other landmarks were located, that I have been unable to find on the small map of the city that I still have in my possession. I guess I will just wait until July when I intend to go to Western OK for a family reunion. I can stop in at one of the Visitor's Centers when I get to the OK State Line and get a better map of Tulsa and surrounding areas. Then I can lay out the different EDs and see if I can then figure out which roll of film (on CD) to buy. Thank you again for your attempt to help me. Maryann Dixon Moseby

Wierd, apparently my email program doesn't like italics either. This time pertinent part, the part to be deleted from state law, is ALL CAPS. Section 1-323. A. To protect the integrity of vital statistics records, to insure ensure their proper use, and to insure ensure the efficient and proper administration of the vital statistics system, it shall be unlawful for any person to permit inspection of, or to disclose information contained in, vital statistics records, or to copy or issue a copy of all or part of any such record except to the person who is the subject of the record or in such person's interest unless ordered to do so by a court of competent jurisdiction; PROVIDED, HOWEVER, THAT DEATH CERTIFICATES SHALL BE ISSUED UPON REQUEST AND THE PAYMENT OF APPLICABLE FEES AS PROVIDED IN SECTION 1 325 OF THIS CODE.

My email program stripped out the cross throughs I had in Word. Proposed part of law to be deleted is now all italicized. Section 1-323. A. To protect the integrity of vital statistics records, to insure ensure their proper use, and to insure ensure the efficient and proper administration of the vital statistics system, it shall be unlawful for any person to permit inspection of, or to disclose information contained in, vital statistics records, or to copy or issue a copy of all or part of any such record except to the person who is the subject of the record or in such person's interest unless ordered to do so by a court of competent jurisdiction; provided, however, that death certificates shall be issued upon request and the payment of applicable fees as provided in Section 1-325 of this Code.

Note the crossed out section of part A. My reading of this would close Oklahoma death certificates to the public. ENGROSSED SENATE BILL NO. 1608 By: Robinson of the Senate and Mitchell of the House An Act relating to public health and safety; amending 63 O.S. 2001, Section 1-323, which relates to vital statistics records; deleting requirements related to requesting a death certificate; requiring conformity with specified federal law; clarifying language; providing an effective date; and declaring an emergency. BE IT ENACTED BY THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA: SECTION 1. AMENDATORY 63 O.S. 2001, Section 1-323, is amended to read as follows: Section 1-323. A. To protect the integrity of vital statistics records, to insure ensure their proper use, and to insure ensure the efficient and proper administration of the vital statistics system, it shall be unlawful for any person to permit inspection of, or to disclose information contained in, vital statistics records, or to copy or issue a copy of all or part of any such record except to the person who is the subject of the record or in such person's interest unless ordered to do so by a court of competent jurisdiction; provided, however, that death certificates shall be issued upon request and the payment of applicable fees as provided in Section 1-325 of this Code. B. The State Commissioner of Health may authorize the disclosure of data contained in vital statistics records for research purposes; provided, however, such release shall be in conformity with the Privacy Standards of the federal Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996. Beginning July 1, 1975, and at the end of each quarter thereafter, the The State Department of Health shall quarterly transmit to the Department of Public Safety a list of all registered deaths which have occurred during such period of time. Upon receipt of such list the Department of Public Safety shall use such list solely to update Department of Public Safety records and to cancel the operator's license for those deceased individuals presently holding a valid Oklahoma motor vehicle operator's license. C. Beginning July 1, 1995, and each month thereafter, the The Commissioner shall monthly authorize the transmission to the Oklahoma Health Care Authority of a certified list of all registered deaths of residents of this state that have occurred within the state for the immediately preceding month. The Oklahoma Health Care Authority shall use the transmitted list to ascertain the names of those individuals participating in the state Medicaid program who are deceased, and shall thereafter terminate such deceased person's enrollment in the state Medicaid program. D. Information in vital statistics records indicating that a birth occurred out of wedlock shall not be disclosed except as provided by rule or upon order of a court of competent jurisdiction. E. For the purpose of assisting in the location and recovery of missing children, information pertaining to birth certificates and requests for copies of birth certificates shall be provided to the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation pursuant to the provisions of Section 1-323.1 of this title and Section 150.12A of Title 74 of the Oklahoma Statutes. F. The Commissioner shall authorize the transmission of death certificates to the Department of Labor for the purpose of the Department of Labor conducting a census of total occupational injuries and illnesses. The Department shall transmit to the Department of Labor statistics of fatal occupational injuries that shall include the following: 1. Name of the deceased; 2. Date of death; 3. Sex; 4. Race; 5. Age; 6. Birth date; 7. Social security number; 8. Whether an autopsy was conducted; 9. Month of the accident; and 10. Whether decedent was of Hispanic origin. G. The Department of Labor shall be required to protect the integrity of the vital statistics records to the same extent required of the Department pursuant to this section. SECTION 2. This act shall become effective July 1, 2002. SECTION 3. It being immediately necessary for the preservation of the public peace, health and safety, an emergency is hereby declared to exist, by reason whereof this act shall take effect and be in full force from and after its passage and approval. Passed the Senate the 18th day of March, 2002.

You probably will not find Turley listed as Turley anymore. Since you have access to the ED see if you can find the area that includes 56th St North and Peoria thru 86th Streeet North and Peoria. That's the area of North Tulsa you'll find Turley listed in. Good luck Linda homepage: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas MarionCoAR: http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion/ TulsaCoOK: http://www.rootsweb.com/~oktulsa2 MuskogeeCoOk: http://www.rootsweb.com/~okmuskog SurnameLists: H.A.A.S/H.A.S.S. L.E.W.A.L.L.E.N ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 12:07 AM Subject: [OKTulsa] 1930 Census > I have been looking at the page that helps you find which of the 1930 rolls > of film to buy to get the Census for your family. It is located at: > <A HREF="http://www2.heritagequest.com/1930census/beginsearch.asp">NARA 1930 Census Microfilm Locator - Begin Search Page</A> > http://www2.heritagequest.com/1930census/beginsearch.asp > > My problem is that I have looked at the detail for the state of OK and the > County of Tulsa. I have not been able to determine which of the rolls will > contain the Census for the small community of Turley. I have looked at the > descriptions and the boundary areas for each ED and still can't find it. > > I know that Turley wasn't incorporated, but it was in Tulsa County and was > well known as a separate community. Since I haven't lived in Tulsa County > for a number of years, I simply can't make the determination. Can someone > else help me with this problem? > > Maryann Dixon Moseby > Mailto: [email protected] > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I have been looking at the page that helps you find which of the 1930 rolls of film to buy to get the Census for your family. It is located at: <A HREF="http://www2.heritagequest.com/1930census/beginsearch.asp">NARA 1930 Census Microfilm Locator - Begin Search Page</A> http://www2.heritagequest.com/1930census/beginsearch.asp My problem is that I have looked at the detail for the state of OK and the County of Tulsa. I have not been able to determine which of the rolls will contain the Census for the small community of Turley. I have looked at the descriptions and the boundary areas for each ED and still can't find it. I know that Turley wasn't incorporated, but it was in Tulsa County and was well known as a separate community. Since I haven't lived in Tulsa County for a number of years, I simply can't make the determination. Can someone else help me with this problem? Maryann Dixon Moseby Mailto: [email protected]