In a message dated 04/12/2000 9:18:30 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << Southwestern Oklahoma State University in Weatherford, OK was once Southwest NORMAL School. My grandfather attended. He graduated with a biology degree. I would estimate that to be in the 1930's. Don't know much else about it than that except that SWOSU is a good school for an education degree. SWOSU does have a web site, you might be able to find more about it there. Dayna >> Maybe the Normal Schools were the beginning of all the state colleges in Oklahoma--the ones at Weatherford, Edmond, Ada, and wherever the northeastern one is (maybe Tahlequah). Lorene